My roidcycle at 16 (HELP)

[introvertedextrover]

This is my current cycle im taking and what sides im experiencing Im up to week 8 on this cycle been cruising on 300 test for majority of last year and plan to run this cycle ethier for 20-25 weeks then cruise on 300 test again.
500 test e (pinned twice week now switching to daily 70mg)
600 eq
3ius gh
2mg Reta
12.5mg aromasin weekly

On hand unsure if i should cycle in
Npp,anadrol.

Sides: Mild acne but treating with trentinoin 0.05 on chest and back only face is clear only a few pimples every now and then. 5-10 small hairs falling out with itchy scalp in terms.

What should i change should i get ru in my stack before hopping on anadrol or is topical monoxidil enough, and should i cycle npp. Ive started 20mg accutane to hopefully clear my skin fully up as i also have KP on my arms to my upper back which makes my mild acne look worse. And should i continue taking aromasin if im not seeing any e2 sides as i have eq in the mix. Can post bloods if needed

 

[volgaTz]

just leave out gh atp bhai

 

[introvertedextrover]

just leave out gh atp bhai

Why because im not running 15 ius and bone smashing, JFL running 3ius is still benefical for recovery skin health and joints

 

[birthdefect]

This is my current cycle im taking and what sides im experiencing Im up to week 8 on this cycle been cruising on 300 test for majority of last year and plan to run this cycle ethier for 20-25 weeks then cruise on 300 test again.
500 test e (pinned twice week now switching to daily 70mg)
600 eq
3ius gh
2mg Reta
12.5mg aromasin weekly

On hand unsure if i should cycle in
Npp,anadrol.

Sides: Mild acne but treating with trentinoin 0.05 on chest and back only face is clear only a few pimples every now and then. 5-10 small hairs falling out with itchy scalp in terms.

What should i change should i get ru in my stack before hopping on anadrol or is topical monoxidil enough, and should i cycle npp. Ive started 20mg accutane to hopefully clear my skin fully up as i also have KP on my arms to my upper back which makes my mild acne look worse. And should i continue taking aromasin if im not seeing any e2 sides as i have eq in the mix. Can post bloods if needed

3iu of gh is straight pointless lets bump that shit up to 8
leave out anadrol and you should already be on ru just in case
take the aromasin on an as needed basis, if you feel good while taking it dont bother changing it unless you get your bloods done and your e2 is low

 

[birthdefect]

Why because im not running 15 ius and bone smashing, JFL running 3ius is still benefical for recovery skin health and joints

cost to benefit brah

 

[Deleted member 307109]

Just do RU, you can also do minoxodil in addition. You should also invest in some ketoconazole shampoo. Do not assess hair loss until after the accutane stabilizes, otherwise it will confound things.

Stacking accutane with anadrol is a very high liver strain, with accutane alone raising AST/ALT and triglycerides. So just do not add anadrol while on accutane, and if you insist on anadrol, stop accutane first.

Continuing an AI can risk crashing E2, meaning dry skin, joint pain, libido issues, hair loss, etc. Don't run aromasin blindly, either reduce or stop and monitor symptoms, or confirm with labs (I'd do the latter). You prolly don't need aromasin right now.

For NPP, your current situation with acne management and hair shedding means adding NPP now increases side-effect overlap (it can worsen acne and adds complexity with hair/skin management)

 

[volgaTz]

3ius is still benefical

iqlet

 

[introvertedextrover]

3iu of gh is straight pointless lets bump that shit up to 8
leave out anadrol and you should already be on ru just in case
take the aromasin on an as needed basis, if you feel good while taking it dont bother changing it unless you get your bloods done and your e2 is low

word i had my bloods last done at my e2 was at 78pmol i feel fine on this level of e2 except for libidio but in terms of every other side im not experiencing much

 

[birthdefect]

word i had my bloods last done at my e2 was at 78pmol i feel fine on this level of e2 except for libidio but in terms of every other side im not experiencing much

pretty sure 78pmol is in the normal range, but if your libido is being weird you should probably try fixing that somehow, but i honestly have no clue how

 

[introvertedextrover]

Just do RU, you can also do minoxodil in addition. You should also invest in some ketoconazole shampoo. Do not assess hair loss until after the accutane stabilizes, otherwise it will confound things.

Stacking accutane with anadrol is a very high liver strain, with accutane alone raising AST/ALT and triglycerides. So just do not add anadrol while on accutane, and if you insist on anadrol, stop accutane first.

Continuing an AI can risk crashing E2, meaning dry skin, joint pain, libido issues, hair loss, etc. Don't run aromasin blindly, either reduce or stop and monitor symptoms, or confirm with labs (I'd do the latter). You prolly don't need aromasin right now.

For NPP, your current situation with acne management and hair shedding means adding NPP now increases side-effect overlap (it can worsen acne and adds complexity with hair/skin management)

Word alright in my labs im currently in perfect range for my ast/alt and triglycerides are auctually below the range at 0.2 because of reta and my very active lifestyle as i just came off a cut. I think ill stop taking the aromasin as im not experiencing any e2 sides now but have very low libidio and mood and on 12.5mg aromasin i had 78pmol, Ill skip on the npp for this bulk cycle as im only 16 i have alot of years ahead to run that shit. But i started accutane today i dont mind waiting i have inj anadrol i was planning on doing 50mg for 20 days when about should i run this and should i just keep my cycle to eq and test i just think im chasing quicker results tbh with the npp as eq is very slow and mild and hasnt shown crazy progress yets in terms of physique but strength keeps going up

 

[introvertedextrover]

pretty sure 78pmol is in the normal range, but if your libido is being weird you should probably try fixing that somehow, but i honestly have no clue how

yeah first of all i need to fix my test source as my bloods came back at 1700 pmol free test because ive been using india pharma shit it should be high 3000 with 500mg, so underdosed gear could be the issue with libidio aswell and then eq is probably surpressing the fuck outta me too so when i get my new gear hopefully my libidio gets fixed with my test being in range.

 

[birthdefect]

yeah first of all i need to fix my test source as my bloods came back at 1700 pmol free test because ive been using india pharma shit it should be high 3000 with 500mg, so underdosed gear could be the issue with libidio aswell and then eq is probably surpressing the fuck outta me too so when i get my new gear hopefully my libidio gets fixed with my test being in range.

wait i didnt even realise
why arent you on hcg?

 

[introvertedextrover]

wait i didnt even realise
why arent you on hcg?

i forgot to mention that im on 750iu M,W,F , aswell as mt2 ghk cu

 

[birthdefect]

i forgot to mention that im on 750iu M,W,F , aswell as mt2 ghk cu

ah alr thats good
im surprised you're using indian shit instead of chinese piss
couldnt source it? or did you just wanna take the risk with what i assume is cheaper than china?

 

[introvertedextrover]

ah alr thats good
im surprised you're using indian shit instead of chinese piss
couldnt source it? or did you just wanna take the risk with what i assume is cheaper than china?

No it was a one off, I ordered my hcg with indiapharma and went fuck it might as well get a test vial to try out turns out its piss oil. I use a domestic UGL before that but now i have a WWB order coming in with chinese oils which my coach said is a wayy better source to be using. My ugl was perfect before tho money wasnt the issue just stupid planning by me with postage times and new year and christmas being stacked otherwise i would of been on my ugl shit when i got my bloods back the other week. but now i have a years worth of test e from china town which might of been a mistake as im switching to ED pins for this cycle until i can clear up my mild acne

 

[Deleted member 307109]

Word alright in my labs im currently in perfect range for my ast/alt and triglycerides are auctually below the range at 0.2 because of reta and my very active lifestyle as i just came off a cut. I think ill stop taking the aromasin as im not experiencing any e2 sides now but have very low libidio and mood and on 12.5mg aromasin i had 78pmol, Ill skip on the npp for this bulk cycle as im only 16 i have alot of years ahead to run that shit. But i started accutane today i dont mind waiting i have inj anadrol i was planning on doing 50mg for 20 days when about should i run this and should i just keep my cycle to eq and test i just think im chasing quicker results tbh with the npp as eq is very slow and mild and hasnt shown crazy progress yets in terms of physique but strength keeps going up

The E2 (78 pmol/L) is too low for you at that adrogen load, the AI is very likely the reason libido and mood tanked for you. Drop aromasin now, and I'd assume you'll see libido recovery over the next few weeks, normal mood, and better training drive. Do not reintroduce AI unless bloods confirm high E2 and you have actual symptoms (bloat, nipple sensitivity, BP issues).

20mg accutane is reasonable if you stay conservative with orals and moniter lipids and liver enzymes every 4-6 weeks. But it is important to know that accutane treats sebaceous output, not androgenic signalling. EQ/test will still push acne is estrogven crashes or DHT stays high. KP exaggerates acne appearence, but accutane should help over that time, but expect like 6-8 weeks until it clears up.

Anadrol makes more sense to start after libido and mood stabilize, when your calories are already in surplus, and not at the same time as accutane. Use anadrol later, not now.

EQ does not give big visual changes early on, but it does improve work capacity, lean mass accrual, appetite modulation, and increases strength. Since your strength is climbing and recovery is good, the tissue is coming, it just isn't that dramatic.

 

[birthdefect]

No it was a one off, I ordered my hcg with indiapharma and went fuck it might as well get a test vial to try out turns out its piss oil. I use a domestic UGL before that but now i have a WWB order coming in with chinese oils which my coach said is a wayy better source to be using. My ugl was perfect before tho money wasnt the issue just stupid planning by me with postage times and new year and christmas being stacked otherwise i would of been on my ugl shit when i got my bloods back the other week. but now i have a years worth of test e from china town which might of been a mistake as im switching to ED pins for this cycle until i can clear up my mild acne

nice nice good luck brah

 

[introvertedextrover]

The E2 (78 pmol/L) is too low for you at that adrogen load, the AI is very likely the reason libido and mood tanked for you. Drop aromasin now, and I'd assume you'll see libido recovery over the next few weeks, normal mood, and better training drive. Do not reintroduce AI unless bloods confirm high E2 and you have actual symptoms (bloat, nipple sensitivity, BP issues).

20mg accutane is reasonable if you stay conservative with orals and moniter lipids and liver enzymes every 4-6 weeks. But it is important to know that accutane treats sebaceous output, not androgenic signalling. EQ/test will still push acne is estrogven crashes or DHT stays high. KP exaggerates acne appearence, but accutane should help over that time, but expect like 6-8 weeks until it clears up.

Anadrol makes more sense to start after libido and mood stabilize, when your calories are already in surplus, and not at the same time as accutane. Use anadrol later, not now.

EQ does not give big visual changes early on, but it does improve work capacity, lean mass accrual, appetite modulation, and increases strength. Since your strength is climbing and recovery is good, the tissue is coming, it just isn't that dramatic.

Ok thankyou yeah ill stop the aromasin as i said in my other post i had underdosed gear so as my new source i get tmrw i should be back in the high 3000 pmol im currently 1700 pmol for 500 test which is very low, that should also boost libido and ill intro the AI back if i get any issues with e2.

How much later should i wait for anadrol as im 8 weeks into the eq cycle and im going to start to raise my calories into a bigger surplus of 400-600 a day soon im thinking i should run this anadrol cycle pretty soon as i dont mind waiting on the accutane as im blasting test at crazy doses its more about making sure i dont have a crazy breakout while on as i plan to put as much mass on as possible with this bulk then recover for 6-8 weeks re get bloods before doing a cut cycle with ethier tren or anavar depending on how im doing.

in terms of eq its giving great strength increase and drive in the gym for sure im thinking of running it up to 800 around week 12-15 of my cycle would i need to run more test to compensate or can i leave my test at 500?

 

[Deleted member 307109]

Ok thankyou yeah ill stop the aromasin as i said in my other post i had underdosed gear so as my new source i get tmrw i should be back in the high 3000 pmol im currently 1700 pmol for 500 test which is very low, that should also boost libido and ill intro the AI back if i get any issues with e2.

How much later should i wait for anadrol as im 8 weeks into the eq cycle and im going to start to raise my calories into a bigger surplus of 400-600 a day soon im thinking i should run this anadrol cycle pretty soon as i dont mind waiting on the accutane as im blasting test at crazy doses its more about making sure i dont have a crazy breakout while on as i plan to put as much mass on as possible with this bulk then recover for 6-8 weeks re get bloods before doing a cut cycle with ethier tren or anavar depending on how im doing.

in terms of eq its giving great strength increase and drive in the gym for sure im thinking of running it up to 800 around week 12-15 of my cycle would i need to run more test to compensate or can i leave my test at 500?

You should still moniter your E2 carefully, as you can have too high E2 (symptoms like bloating, nipple sensitivity and water retention will show), and if that happens, only then would you consider aromasin or any AI.

For introducing anadrol, first wait for your testosterone to stabilize. If you are increasing the dose, wait 3ish weeks to level out and see how you feel, as that will allow E2 to catch up and the base to solidify before introducing the powerful anadrol. The concern with accutane is the potential for a massive breakout, especially on orals. Just make sure your skin isn't flaring up too much and that your E2 levels are good. Anadrol should be added after you see solid strenbth increase and you are in a sustained calorie surplus, so when you start 400-600 calories you could introduce anadrol there to maximise effects, but you should not rush this if accutane hasn't stabilized your skin and you're still adjusting to higer test doses.

EQ already has a long ester, so when you bump EQ to 800mg, test soesn't necessarily need to be increased to compensate because EQ is already doing a lot of the androgenic work. Keep test at 500mg unless you start feeling signs of low test (low libido, mood dips, fatigue), but that'll only happen if the ratio of test to EQ starts to feel off. Keep test stable.

Anadrol will make you feel bigger and fuller in a way that EQ doesn't, but you'll risk stuff like lipid profile shifts and skin breakouts. Accutane will control the acne, but stacking anadrol could cause a spike in oil production that accutane cannot fully prevent, especially if your in a calorie surplus. You could use anadrol for 4-6 weeks and cut it off as soon as you see the gains you wanted.

For recovery 6-8 weeks before cutting again, make sure to get bloods before transitioning to your next cycle to ensure your hormonal and organ health is in check. You should get lipid and liver values checked to ensure you are healthy.

 

[introvertedextrover]

You should still moniter your E2 carefully, as you can have too high E2 (symptoms like bloating, nipple sensitivity and water retention will show), and if that happens, only then would you consider aromasin or any AI.

For introducing anadrol, first wait for your testosterone to stabilize. If you are increasing the dose, wait 3ish weeks to level out and see how you feel, as that will allow E2 to catch up and the base to solidify before introducing the powerful anadrol. The concern with accutane is the potential for a massive breakout, especially on orals. Just make sure your skin isn't flaring up too much and that your E2 levels are good. Anadrol should be added after you see solid strenbth increase and you are in a sustained calorie surplus, so when you start 400-600 calories you could introduce anadrol there to maximise effects, but you should not rush this if accutane hasn't stabilized your skin and you're still adjusting to higer test doses.

EQ already has a long ester, so when you bump EQ to 800mg, test soesn't necessarily need to be increased to compensate because EQ is already doing a lot of the androgenic work. Keep test at 500mg unless you start feeling signs of low test (low libido, mood dips, fatigue), but that'll only happen if the ratio of test to EQ starts to feel off. Keep test stable.

Anadrol will make you feel bigger and fuller in a way that EQ doesn't, but you'll risk stuff like lipid profile shifts and skin breakouts. Accutane will control the acne, but stacking anadrol could cause a spike in oil production that accutane cannot fully prevent, especially if your in a calorie surplus. You could use anadrol for 4-6 weeks and cut it off as soon as you see the gains you wanted.

For recovery 6-8 weeks before cutting again, make sure to get bloods before transitioning to your next cycle to ensure your hormonal and organ health is in check. You should get lipid and liver values checked to ensure you are healthy.

Alright sounds good thanks for the advice, Im gonna run gluta aswell for extra liver protection ill wait for my test to stablize as you said but i think in terms of skin im doing pretty well as my acne is very mild and its only mainly my chest at the moment so when i run anadrol ill run it for only 20 days just for a boost soon in my cycle if i respond good to it ill extend the duration. And yeah for my cutting cycle i will get bloods done ofc, Ive already gotten bloods for the 8 week mark in this cycle and rbc is all in range and lipids profiles just issue with the test being underdosed so hopefully pinning test e everyday also will help to raise this quicker and more stable without the flucuations. Thanks

 

[Deleted member 307109]

Alright sounds good thanks for the advice, Im gonna run gluta aswell for extra liver protection ill wait for my test to stablize as you said but i think in terms of skin im doing pretty well as my acne is very mild and its only mainly my chest at the moment so when i run anadrol ill run it for only 20 days just for a boost soon in my cycle if i respond good to it ill extend the duration. And yeah for my cutting cycle i will get bloods done ofc, Ive already gotten bloods for the 8 week mark in this cycle and rbc is all in range and lipids profiles just issue with the test being underdosed so hopefully pinning test e everyday also will help to raise this quicker and more stable without the flucuations. Thanks

No problem

 

[infrainfra]

This is my current cycle im taking and what sides im experiencing Im up to week 8 on this cycle been cruising on 300 test for majority of last year and plan to run this cycle ethier for 20-25 weeks then cruise on 300 test again.
500 test e (pinned twice week now switching to daily 70mg)
600 eq
3ius gh
2mg Reta
12.5mg aromasin weekly

On hand unsure if i should cycle in
Npp,anadrol.

Sides: Mild acne but treating with trentinoin 0.05 on chest and back only face is clear only a few pimples every now and then. 5-10 small hairs falling out with itchy scalp in terms.

What should i change should i get ru in my stack before hopping on anadrol or is topical monoxidil enough, and should i cycle npp. Ive started 20mg accutane to hopefully clear my skin fully up as i also have KP on my arms to my upper back which makes my mild acne look worse. And should i continue taking aromasin if im not seeing any e2 sides as i have eq in the mix. Can post bloods if needed

igf axis is 70% of growth. why would you run 3iu.

 

[introvertedextrover]

igf axis is 70% of growth. why would you run 3iu.

nga this is a old ass thread i run 6ius now

 

[infrainfra]

nga this is a old ass thread i run 6ius now

somatropin or long acting gh