my surgeries to achieve this rough morph

[xlefort]

the morph i made is unrealistic in lighting and picture quality. it also has differences in soft tissue and coloring which will throw off the realism and accuracy of the procedures performed. with that being said structural changes should be entirely achievable through the following procedures:


many changes in morph are enhanced naturally by getting lean/fixing skin collagen and clarity.

minor jaw angle implants
minor canthoplasty
minor buccal fat removal

all procedures above are minimally invasive and inherently less risky, albeit easier to achieve uncanny results hence why i specified the minor impact.


sliding genioplasty
added mild but noticeable vertical advancement, angularity, and projection of chin.

orbital rim implants
eye bags can be fixed naturally, i naturally have positive infraorbital vector.
supras add dimorphism with the projection and straightness of brow ridge. this will subsequently change eyebrows. (dye also added.)

lefort i
self explanatory maxillary advancement. change is not too apparent in the morph.
beyond aesthetic reasons i also need this to expand airways to breathe better.

rhinoplasty
the change in my nose is arguably the greatest. tip is refined, radix is augmented, columella is supported, overall bridge is symmetrized, and alar base is advanced forward due to the underlying structural change from lefort i.


in theory, following the procedures above, the transformation should be completely achievable, just not perfectly identical to the morph. changes in quality/lighting/smoothness are for visually demonstrative purposes only, not to exaggerate my increased facial attractiveness after the hardmaxxing.
i'll also give myself the benefit of doubt and assume i still have a bit more time to achieve craniofacial growth due to the fact that i'm 16 and not fully done growing. all procedures will be performed after i'm an adult and will be strategically chronological.



thoughts? am i insane? do i need anything else to achieve a similar result? constructive criticism would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Gael24]

the morph i made is unrealistic in lighting and picture quality. it also has differences in soft tissue and coloring which will throw off the realism and accuracy of the procedures performed. with that being said structural changes should be entirely achievable through the following procedures:


many changes in morph are enhanced naturally by getting lean/fixing skin collagen and clarity.

minor jaw angle implants
minor canthoplasty
minor buccal fat removal

all procedures above are minimally invasive and inherently less risky, albeit easier to achieve uncanny results hence why i specified the minor impact.


sliding genioplasty
added mild but noticeable vertical advancement, angularity, and projection of chin.

orbital rim implants
eye bags can be fixed naturally, i naturally have positive infraorbital vector.
supras add dimorphism with the projection and straightness of brow ridge. this will subsequently change eyebrows. (dye also added.)

lefort i
self explanatory maxillary advancement. change is not too apparent in the morph.
beyond aesthetic reasons i also need this to expand airways to breathe better.

rhinoplasty
the change in my nose is arguably the greatest. tip is refined, radix is augmented, columella is supported, overall bridge is symmetrized, and alar base is advanced forward due to the underlying structural change from lefort i.


in theory, following the procedures above, the transformation should be completely achievable, just not perfectly identical to the morph. changes in quality are for visually demonstrative purposes only, not to exaggerate my increased facial attractiveness after the hardmaxxing.
i'll also give myself the benefit of doubt and assume i still have a bit more time to achieve craniofacial growth due to the fact that i'm 16 and not fully done growing. all procedures will be taken after i'm an adult and will be strategically chronological.



thoughts? am i insane? do i need anything else to achieve a similar result? constructive criticism would be greatly appreciated.

How did you make the morph

 

[xlefort]

How did you make the morph

before i answer that i wanna hear your thoughts

 

[Gael24]

before i answer that i wanna hear your thoughts

If you don’t get botched you will ascend a lot, but you should be careful with so many surgeries

 

[xlefort]

If you don’t get botched you will ascend a lot, but you should be careful with so many surgeries

thanks for your two cents bro i'll keep that in mind

i use pixlr.com for liquify tool and drawing

 

[Gael24]

thanks for your two cents bro i'll keep that in mind

i use pixlr.com for liquify tool and drawing

Thanks, i wish you luck for those surgeries

 

[xlefort]

Thanks, i wish you luck for those surgeries

preciate that! i'll give it my all

 

[xlefort]

@Aqualad

what do you think?

 

[zygosmasher12]

are you using imgur? i cant see the morph because im in the UK smh

 

[xlefort]

are you using imgur? i cant see the morph because im in the UK smh

ah dang it. i am using imgur. i'll attach a screenshot hopefully this works and you can see it below:

before and after is pretty obvious, pls read thread for more info

 

[Aqualad]

1. Sliding genioplasty likely wouldn't do that in the morph. Your chin got noticeably more square, and while a sliding genio will add vertical height and projection from the side, your chins shape will stay the same. I would personally just opt for a chin implant. Theyre made for cases like these, genio really isnt. because of your current chin projection you wouldnt need much forward movements anyways so A chin implant would definitely suffice. You could also combine a sliding genio and a chin implant together.

2. As for the infraorbital implants you could just do fat grafting, thats what I did. Supras are a good investment but i honestly dont know who performs those except giant

Everything else seems fine

 

[lurking truecel]

Damn you will be botched

 

[zygosmasher12]

ah dang it. i am using imgur. i'll attach a screenshot hopefully this works and you can see it below:

View attachment 4428596View attachment 4428600

before and after is pretty obvious, pls read thread for more info

yes better

 

[xlefort]

Damn you will be botched

tell me why you think this way

 

[xlefort]

yes better

thoughts?

 

[zygosmasher12]

thoughts?

yeah i just said its better, a lot better actually. good luck

 

[xlefort]

yeah i just said its better, a lot better actually. good luck

thanks bro. i mainly meant if you thought i was going overkill or if the results are unachievable, i'm confident in it but another perspective won't hurt

 

[jester]

the morph i made is unrealistic in lighting and picture quality. it also has differences in soft tissue and coloring which will throw off the realism and accuracy of the procedures performed. with that being said structural changes should be entirely achievable through the following procedures:


many changes in morph are enhanced naturally by getting lean/fixing skin collagen and clarity.

minor jaw angle implants
minor canthoplasty
minor buccal fat removal

all procedures above are minimally invasive and inherently less risky, albeit easier to achieve uncanny results hence why i specified the minor impact.


sliding genioplasty
added mild but noticeable vertical advancement, angularity, and projection of chin.

orbital rim implants
eye bags can be fixed naturally, i naturally have positive infraorbital vector.
supras add dimorphism with the projection and straightness of brow ridge. this will subsequently change eyebrows. (dye also added.)

lefort i
self explanatory maxillary advancement. change is not too apparent in the morph.
beyond aesthetic reasons i also need this to expand airways to breathe better.

rhinoplasty
the change in my nose is arguably the greatest. tip is refined, radix is augmented, columella is supported, overall bridge is symmetrized, and alar base is advanced forward due to the underlying structural change from lefort i.


in theory, following the procedures above, the transformation should be completely achievable, just not perfectly identical to the morph. changes in quality/lighting/smoothness are for visually demonstrative purposes only, not to exaggerate my increased facial attractiveness after the hardmaxxing.
i'll also give myself the benefit of doubt and assume i still have a bit more time to achieve craniofacial growth due to the fact that i'm 16 and not fully done growing. all procedures will be performed after i'm an adult and will be strategically chronological.



thoughts? am i insane? do i need anything else to achieve a similar result? constructive criticism would be greatly appreciated.

infra-malar and gonion implants
genio
epicanthoplasty
rhino with nasal bridge reduction
minoxidil+microneedling on eyebrows

 

[xlefort]

infra-malar and gonion implants
genio
epicanthoplasty
rhino with nasal bridge reduction
minoxidil+microneedling on eyebrows

do you think the shown results are achievable? disregarding coloring and change of light

 

[jester]

do you think the shown results are achievable? disregarding coloring and change of light

yeah, not to the exact same but yeah
also i forgot tret for skin

 

[xlefort]

1. Sliding genioplasty likely wouldn't do that in the morph. Your chin got noticeably more square, and while a sliding genio will add vertical height and projection from the side, your chins shape will stay the same. I would personally just opt for a chin implant. Theyre made for cases like these, genio really isnt. because of your current chin projection you wouldnt need much forward movements anyways so A chin implant would definitely suffice. You could also combine a sliding genio and a chin implant together.

yeah definitely noticed that, i think the squared off shape is very desirable in my case so i'll def opt for a chin implant and slight genio
that way i won't even consider bsso either

2. As for the infraorbital implants you could just do fat grafting, thats what I did. Supras are a good investment but i honestly dont know who performs those except giant

nice. did you get periorbital fat grafting or just exclusively in your infras? and were you happy with the added under eye support it gave?
also with supraorbital rim implants i've found inconclusive results regarding the straightness/low setness of the implant afterwards, since my supras are arched and high set. i know the surgeon is probably the best person to ask for this but if it's possible do you think it could lower my eyebrows slightly like in the morph?

Everything else seems fine

lmaoo you don't think it's an 8psl morph?

 

[xlefort]

yeah, not to the exact same but yeah
also i forgot tret for skin

okay cool, what's tret

 

[jester]

okay cool, what's tret

tretinoin

 

[Wexilarious]

just train masseter mucles first and you don't need anymore surgeries

 

[xlefort]

tretinoin

i'll look it up

 

[xlefort]

just train masseter mucles first and you don't need anymore surgeries

ngl i think that's a stretch do you mind giving me your reasoning?
also even if i train masseter muscles it'll add to my bigonial width but won't give me more angularity like in my morph

 

[Sujumh]

buccal fat removal does not contribute to hollow cheeks its more subq fat and u dont wanna remove buccal fat anyways shit ages u badly
ur chin wont change like that from the front prob better to get an implant
rhino's always good
i dont think ur eyes will look like that + u can get a fat graft

 

[Wexilarious]

ngl i think that's a stretch do you mind giving me your reasoning?
also even if i train masseter muscles it'll add to my bigonial width but won't give me more angularity like in my morph

if you already debloated but can't get zygos like in morph version, then you will get them after masseter training, the skin from this area will be more taut

Really rough edit

You can check that I just made the area where the muscles are located square

 

[xlefort]

buccal fat removal does not contribute to hollow cheeks its more subq fat and u dont wanna remove buccal fat anyways shit ages u badly

yeah it's hypothetical and if i do get it it'll be minor, i think debloating, growing up, and getting lean will give me the results i want anyways

ur chin wont change like that from the front prob better to get an implant

yup, genio for added advancement vertically and horizontally and then implant for angularity

rhino's always good

yeah haha, i'd kill for the nose i have in the morph so it's def a necessity

i dont think ur eyes will look like that + u can get a fat graft

why don't you think that? and do you mean infraorbital fat graft?

 

[xlefort]

if you already debloated but can't get zygos like in morph version, then you will get them after masseter training, the skin from this area will be more taut

funnily enough i didn't touch my zygos at all, just hollow cheeks made them look more pronounced
and yes i am bloated and not as lean as i could be, also i'm freshly 16 so i'll naturally get more definition as i get older

You can check that I just made the area where the muscles are located square

i hear you but i don't believe masseter training will give me that strong of a result, plus i risk tmj because i already have bite issues

even if i did get the results of the morph you made i still have shitty orbital bones, recessed maxilla and a bulbous flat nose all of which can be surgically corrected

 

[Aqualad]

yeah definitely noticed that, i think the squared off shape is very desirable in my case so i'll def opt for a chin implant and slight genio
that way i won't even consider bsso either

nice. did you get periorbital fat grafting or just exclusively in your infras? and were you happy with the added under eye support it gave?
also with supraorbital rim implants i've found inconclusive results regarding the straightness/low setness of the implant afterwards, since my supras are arched and high set. i know the surgeon is probably the best person to ask for this but if it's possible do you think it could lower my eyebrows slightly like in the morph?

lmaoo you don't think it's an 8psl morph?

Only in my infras, yes i liked the result but its minor compared to the other surgeries ive gotten. No one is ever going to be deemed unattractive solely because of their infras usually. But im glad i didnt opt for implants there (I wanted to get them but couldnt afford jfl)

I dont know anything about supras to be honest. @Linoob got supras and a ton of other implants maybe you could PM him.

 

[xlefort]

Only in my infras, yes i liked the result but its minor compared to the other surgeries ive gotten. No one is ever going to be deemed unattractive solely because of their infras usually. But im glad i didnt opt for implants there (I wanted to get them but couldnt afford jfl)

did it add puffiness under your eyes or mainly just projection? like the good kind of puffiness, in korea we call it aegyo sal
in the before/after pictures i've seen of patients undergoing infraorbital fat grafts the main difference just looks like smoothness of skin and mitigated eye bags

also why do you say you're glad you didn't opt for implants instead? other than the price

 

[Aqualad]

did it add puffiness under your eyes or mainly just projection? like the good kind of puffiness, in korea we call it aegyo sal
in the before/after pictures i've seen of patients undergoing infraorbital fat grafts the main difference just looks like smoothness of skin and mitigated eye bags

also why do you say you're glad you didn't opt for implants instead? other than the price

It didnt give me aegyo sal. It made my eyes look more youthful and less tired + my infras werent that bad before. If you want to get mogger undereyes you have to ask them to overfill you, which I didnt ask

Im glad i didnt get implants because fat grafting gave me the result i wanted will less hassle. Theres more risk of infection w/ implants because its a mobile area, theres more risk of it looking unappealing, sometimes u can see the implant, the cost ofc, etc but thats the main reasons.