TheoreticalFrame
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Hey everyone, I've posted my face on here before if you're desperate to see it just search my post history or just take what I say here as gospel.
Roughly a year or two ago at this point (I'm khhv) I had my first ever talking stage at 17. I'm probably nearly hmtn or htn in my region as my phenotype is a bit rarer (geomaxxed) & the girl I was trying to go for was an easy 7/10, bodymaxxed mtb with just the most amazing voice i've ever heard. I even remember replaying her VMs on snap just to lower my cortisol. For perspective I just came out of a life altering surgery at the time of which I'm currently fully healed but as expected it'd take a toll on any 17 y/o, this effected how well I was able to talk to her, with her even saying "did your friend tell you to say that" to me on snap at one point when I had begun to just talk more casually (jfl), regardless I partly wrote this post to just express how much shock I was in when she came to uni one day & had no make up on. FYI I was 17, she was 19, although I look a bit older than my age and have a decent frame hence the attraction I suppose; she came to uni w/o makeup and i just couldn't help but just be in awe. She looked fucking horrible. Like a drug addict.
I know it's mean to say that to someone, sure, she still looked attractive, but no where even close to how she'd look with light makeup. We're talking black eye bags, acne ridden face and a few others I couldn't list. She hopped on accutane a few months after this. I personally never thought she should've. The bottom 10% of women have the same SMV as the top 10% of men so there's genuinely no reason to have to ever improve yourself as a female although she decided to take accutane which I'm personally just super against dude to the sleuth of bad sides not to mention suicidal thoughts and the effects it has on bones; regardless the point i'm trying to get at is that i was not expecting her to look so bad.
I'd objectively say she went from a 7/10 to a solid maybe 5.25/10 but that's me being generous, she isn't really recessed if anything she has a little too much bone (slightly long midface ratio, everything else is effectively ideal), and I'm probably a solid 6.5, so we're talking hmtn to lhtn if generous so I'd say it was somewhat of a looksmatch with her makeup on.
Fast forwards 2 years, she's talking to maybe 20 guys simultaneously at once & has maybe 5 different guy best friends. All of whom I mog to oblivion.
Since our talking stage ended, I took roids (250mg test cyp weekly for 20wks + 50mg anavar daily + hgh 1-2iu/day + accutane for sides + no hair protection so my hair suffered a bit, recovered since thanks to minoxidil, haven't taken dut or fin yet as I don't think I need it yet although will be taking dut for my next cycle if I ever decide to go on another one. I gained approx 5-6 kg of muscle in those 20 weeks and even on a bulk look fairly decent, approx 85kg at 5'10, frauded 6'2 in boots so I always look fairly above my standard; some of you might say I'm frauding too to which I say yes, I am, so it's fair for the girl to fraud too, and I agree, it's not like I lost attraction to her after finding out she looked like a druggie. I genuinely couldn't give a fuck. Her voice was just so soothing, horrible personality and definitely foidmaxxed hence the talkingstage fallout although i'd probably attribute that to me being cold towards her at times each time i'd see her talking to 20 diff guys for no fucking reason; it's too much to ask of a foid in college. I don't even know if she has any bodies. My country's a bit more conservative and religious although it's not like anyone really is nowadays. Majority of dudes I know are virgins but not khhv and i presume that's safe to presume for the girls too, although against my own beliefs I just know it isn't true; it's a shame that's the way it is but I'd like to think my talking stage hadn't gotten fucked by a dude before, because holy shit if that was the case I just don't know if I would've ever even entertained a chat with her in that case.
Regardless, the conclusion of this post is to just LDAR as there's really nothing WE can do to lose our khhv status; don't get this post twisted, I'll fuck anything that moves but my own mind just won't let me, I can never even go close to a hoe it's just too degrading to be treated like a throwaway to some hoe's day to day livelihood
Just rambling
Roughly a year or two ago at this point (I'm khhv) I had my first ever talking stage at 17. I'm probably nearly hmtn or htn in my region as my phenotype is a bit rarer (geomaxxed) & the girl I was trying to go for was an easy 7/10, bodymaxxed mtb with just the most amazing voice i've ever heard. I even remember replaying her VMs on snap just to lower my cortisol. For perspective I just came out of a life altering surgery at the time of which I'm currently fully healed but as expected it'd take a toll on any 17 y/o, this effected how well I was able to talk to her, with her even saying "did your friend tell you to say that" to me on snap at one point when I had begun to just talk more casually (jfl), regardless I partly wrote this post to just express how much shock I was in when she came to uni one day & had no make up on. FYI I was 17, she was 19, although I look a bit older than my age and have a decent frame hence the attraction I suppose; she came to uni w/o makeup and i just couldn't help but just be in awe. She looked fucking horrible. Like a drug addict.
I know it's mean to say that to someone, sure, she still looked attractive, but no where even close to how she'd look with light makeup. We're talking black eye bags, acne ridden face and a few others I couldn't list. She hopped on accutane a few months after this. I personally never thought she should've. The bottom 10% of women have the same SMV as the top 10% of men so there's genuinely no reason to have to ever improve yourself as a female although she decided to take accutane which I'm personally just super against dude to the sleuth of bad sides not to mention suicidal thoughts and the effects it has on bones; regardless the point i'm trying to get at is that i was not expecting her to look so bad.
I'd objectively say she went from a 7/10 to a solid maybe 5.25/10 but that's me being generous, she isn't really recessed if anything she has a little too much bone (slightly long midface ratio, everything else is effectively ideal), and I'm probably a solid 6.5, so we're talking hmtn to lhtn if generous so I'd say it was somewhat of a looksmatch with her makeup on.
Fast forwards 2 years, she's talking to maybe 20 guys simultaneously at once & has maybe 5 different guy best friends. All of whom I mog to oblivion.
Since our talking stage ended, I took roids (250mg test cyp weekly for 20wks + 50mg anavar daily + hgh 1-2iu/day + accutane for sides + no hair protection so my hair suffered a bit, recovered since thanks to minoxidil, haven't taken dut or fin yet as I don't think I need it yet although will be taking dut for my next cycle if I ever decide to go on another one. I gained approx 5-6 kg of muscle in those 20 weeks and even on a bulk look fairly decent, approx 85kg at 5'10, frauded 6'2 in boots so I always look fairly above my standard; some of you might say I'm frauding too to which I say yes, I am, so it's fair for the girl to fraud too, and I agree, it's not like I lost attraction to her after finding out she looked like a druggie. I genuinely couldn't give a fuck. Her voice was just so soothing, horrible personality and definitely foidmaxxed hence the talkingstage fallout although i'd probably attribute that to me being cold towards her at times each time i'd see her talking to 20 diff guys for no fucking reason; it's too much to ask of a foid in college. I don't even know if she has any bodies. My country's a bit more conservative and religious although it's not like anyone really is nowadays. Majority of dudes I know are virgins but not khhv and i presume that's safe to presume for the girls too, although against my own beliefs I just know it isn't true; it's a shame that's the way it is but I'd like to think my talking stage hadn't gotten fucked by a dude before, because holy shit if that was the case I just don't know if I would've ever even entertained a chat with her in that case.
Regardless, the conclusion of this post is to just LDAR as there's really nothing WE can do to lose our khhv status; don't get this post twisted, I'll fuck anything that moves but my own mind just won't let me, I can never even go close to a hoe it's just too degrading to be treated like a throwaway to some hoe's day to day livelihood
Just rambling
