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On Friday at around 8pm I did my first approach on the street
A girl was walking towards me on the footpath but not looking at me
She was moving quite fast and had earphones in but I stopped her and asked how she was
I think she said fine or something then I asked if she planned on going out tonight and she said no and started to walk on
There was no rudeness about it but it felt good just to get a high difficulty kind of approach out of the way since she had earphones in and wasn't looking at me until I stopped her.
My voice was terrible and sounded high cortisol for lack of a better description because of how out of my comfort zone I was
I think this largely contributed to her moving on quickly when she said no about going out although if I could think quick enough I may have been able to extend the convo but it was effectively doomed off first impression caused by my voice being shit.
The girl was probably around 19 and decent looking but not the archetype of the generically goodlooking Nordic foid
About an hour later I seen a foid walking towards me with her dog so I stopped her to ask if she knows any good bars to go to on a Friday night and she invested into the convo by asking what kind of music I was looking for and if I wanted to go to the bar now or later then I asked how Friday night compared to Saturday night then asked if she was going out over the weekend and she told me she was going to pride Saturday so I asked if I could get her number and maybe we could meet up tomorrow and she said no with a laugh. She seemed somewhat flattered by it rather than it being a rude laugh.
She looked around 30 and was a bit chubster and had the appearance of someone who's not really in the dating game or a chad chaser.
She looked like the kind of girl to have a LTN/MTN boyfriend in their 30s rather than a looksmaxxing peterpan maxxer.
I could've extended the convo more but figured I'd ask for a number just to practice the act of doing so while I hadn't made any mistakes verbally or stumbled on my words despite feeling shaky internally.
After that approach I went back to my apartment to drink a few cans then I went back into the city and stood in the line of a club on my own with no opportunities to talk to anyone in the line as I usually would.
They kept a massive line outside even though inside, the floor with people on it was barely full so it felt a bit awkward being there at first, I was just ordering drinks then sitting around at tables.
I spoke to a couple of guys but it was just basic shit and didn't extend to any wingmanning
Then at the bar I spoke to some Finnish guy and asked if he had cocaine since I just got that vibe when I seen him in the bathrooms but he didn't
The guy was very nerdic looking and low appeal for club slaying but he was pretty tall.
He asked me my height and I told him 195cm then he said "I thought I was 195cm but I must not be if you are"
From what I see online there's only a 1cm difference in average height between Ireland (179cm) and Finland (180cm) but it feels like much more in terms of Finns being taller.
I'm not sure if it's just a case of me walking past more people in Finland than I have in Ireland in any time in recent memory so I'm encountering more 190cm+ guys or if the stats are actually off.
I'm seeing a noticable amount of girls who appear 190cm+, like a couple per day but I may begin keeping count.
I then go onto the danceloor with the Finnish guy and it seems a few girls are receptive to us being around them
We begin interacting with two girls, one had more sex appeal but wasn't that great objectively, the other one had lower sex appeal and had glasses
The finnish guy then started holding the high sex appeal girl while dancing with her so I thought it was best for me to leave
I then found another group of girls and began kissing an average-below looking chubster but she had a very robust bones and wide cheekbones so I'd have enjoyed banging her. She seemed invested as she spent some time with me at a table but ultimately left because she said she had to stay with her friends.
I got her snap and asked her to come over the following night and she said she wants to but she doesn't think she can do it and that she's scared so I asked her what she's scared of and she said it's something irrational that would just make her sound crazy.
A decent amount of time passed then I figured I had to go back to the finnish guy and the two girls, the guy was still dancing with the higher sex appeal girl in the exact same manner he had been, after a few minutes the finnish guy just decided to go and didn't come back and the high sex appeal one asked where he went like she was disappointed but she pretty much confirmed she didn't think he was particularly attractive but I could tell she was enjoying soaking up the attention.
I then got sexual with her and started feeling her ass and talking about going back with her and even said that her glasses friend could also come back and she asked if I was a player and I said I wasn't.
The glasses foid took off her glasses and actually looked fairly cute so if I had any sense I would've just went for her from the beginning but it seemed things weren't going anywhere with high sex appeal foid. Had I switched over to glasses girl the high sex appeal girl would've cockblocked I feel so I went to look for another girl
I went into another part of the venue I hadn't yet been in and seen 3 blondes right there with nobody talking to them so I began talking to the nearest one who was the least attractive with a shortface/low pedigree face and was chubster with piercings but lacking tits.
One of the friends looked very slag maxxed with lip filler and another was just generally attractive
Once I realized that they had a pretty open vibe I thought maybe I could've approached one of the better looking ones but I think I just subconsciously assumed they'd be stuck up towards me or have a guy already.
I kissed the chubster then believed it was a case of either slaying her or nothing so I was investing some effort
One of the girls said something about the chubster liking a blacks although her English wasn't good so rather than looking for confirmation on what she said I chose to ignore it but I realized she did have the pheno of a girl who hates herself and fucks blacks.
The club was closing so we all walked out at the same time, while on the street her friends left and basically gave her permission to go home with me but she was telling me she had to go home with her friends.
I was in that drunken state where I was shameless about being seen on the street with a low pedigree foid but if I had any resemblance of sobriety I would've just ditched her since I'd be sacrificing my dignity for fucking a potential mudshark.
Also when a girl is that much below your own lookslevel they often can only fuck guys who they feel are as unattractive as themselves
This was the most forceful and pushy I've been in terms of trying to get girls to come back with me since I started going on nights out again post surgery.
I used to slay chubsters with ease in Ireland but I'm starting to think having a bite deformity actually allowed chubsters to feel comfortable since I had a glaring flaw so was somewhat on their level.
I then walked around for a while trying to find my way to the busstop and stopped two goodlooking girls who were receptive and I called them hot and asked if they would go out again tomorrow and then got one of their numbers. I was still very drunk here but it was only when I asked for the number and walked on that I thought I shouldve just tried push to get one of them back to my place then regardless of how low the chances may have been since getting their number at 6am effectively means a 0.0001% chance of ever seeing them again.
I then spent all day in bed and on Saturday night I finally decided the leave the house late and got into the city at 1am
I got off the bus and was on my phone and some girl who was across the street walked over for what seemed like no apparent reason because she just walked straight back over across the street to where people were waiting for a bus.
I didn't pull the trigger on approaching while she was near me so I decided to walk over across the street to where her and quite a few others were waiting for a bus and I could sense people looking at me as I approached her which actually felt quite good since it was like people witnessed me approaching a hot girl with no fucks given.
I had my phone out and asked her if she knew where a cetain bar was and if she had been there and knows if it was any good so it was a low risk indirect approach but I figured after starting with that I could switch the focus onto her but the bus arrived before I could properly express interest but I think it may have been obvious why i crossed the street and specifically selected her to ask.
I then walked around the streets more and while waiting at a traffic light a guy tapped me on the shoulder then him and his friend who were very drunk started talking to me so I walked with them and kept the convo going then asked them their plan for the night and where they were going and if they have been to a bar I was looking for.
It didn't take long for them to tell me they were going to help me to get a Finnish girl and one of them who was HTN was telling me I was a handsome guy and should be able to get a girl here easily.
I had drunk guys say similar things to me in Ireland and England on nights out but hearing it in Finland made me think I may actually have a chance of getting a Finnish foid since I took it as an indication that my pheno can have some appeal here.
Obviously it would've been a better indicator hearing it from a foid but a HTN's opinion can't be that far off a general foid's opinion I believe
When they asked my age I asked them to guess and they said 20 jfl, I laped that I was 22
They were 19 and said that we were on the wrong said of town since I was 22 and that the clubs here are full of 16 year olds as if that was a problem
I cant remember the wording but they almost made it sound as if going for a freshly turned 18 y/o as a 19 y/o wasn't something they'd do and then they began talking about wanting to go fuck some moms but I'd say a lot of it was just drunk talk as if to suggest girls their own age are annoying and milfs are more thrilling.
One of them asked my height and I said 195cm and again he said it seemed like more and said he was 188cm
We were walking around aimlessly for a while but eventally we got to a venue and went to the seated smoking area on the top floor
They kept talking to girls in Finnish and pointing at me which was pretty uncomfortable for me because I couldn't engage in the convo it was like they were trying to sell me to the girls but I was just standing there like a tool.
The first foids they approached didn't seem overly enthusuatic but one of the guys stayed there talking to them while me and the HTN went downstairs
We then got talking to two girls and again he I was stuck there like a tool while he was tryna sell me and he seemed to be having some good flirting with this giga short girl then the other friend walked off. I was trying to say some stuff to the giga short girl but it was pointless and she seemed fairly drunk and hard to engage with when you aren't drunk yourself.
I entered the club sober and was on my first corona at this point and ended up having 3 in total then a vodka near the end of the night
I talked to a foid while waiting at the bar and she complimented me on my accent and said she hasn't met any Irish person before, I just used her as practice to talk to and wasnt particularly interested in her.
I went back upstairs to the other guy and he seemed to be making inroads with the foids so I sat down with them
Then I switched over seats to sit next to a blonde chubster who looked unreceptive at first when they were trying to sell me to her but now I was able to have a convo with her
I asked her pretty much all I could but then there was a period of silence and I effectively stopped speaking to her entirely from that point because it was just me asking her questions constantly and her not contributing much else.
Had I not been looking at her eyes I'd have thought she was pretty sober due to how little she moved or spoke but when I looked at her eyes I could see she was actually pretty drunk but it seems Finns can just sit in silence when drunk rather than having to be loud and active
The other guy was now sitting next to a LTB and they were saying that she was interested in me but I never spoke to her directly
The blonde foid told me that the LTB was from a different city and staying with her tonight so I figured that ruled out any chance of slaying the blonde
The giga short foid from earlier then comes to the table and starts talking to the LTB despite them being strangers
Then at one point the LTB is sitting on her side of the table alone so some Arab guy sits down and starts aggressively kissing her almost immediately
His worse looking manlet friends come over which failoed him imo and the giga short foid appeared to be telling her not to continue with him then she started pulling away from his attempted kisses and he was asking if the short foid said something bad about him (he was speaking english and couldnt understand finnish)
He may have thought he had a slay with the LTB but gave up and left.
I have to say it seems like a pretty brutal place for ethnics as they're generally standing on the fringes of the venues unable to get involved.
Wannabe thug game also doesn't seem to be in play here since girls just seem happy with normal, well adjusted white guys whereas in Ireland/UK foids will get with white chav WannabeThugMaxxers and will hence accept attention from the approaches of ethnic WTMs in clubs.
The two guys wanted to leave to go to the casino but I had bought a vodka and wanted to try approch since my inhib was lowering a bit
I seen a guy walking by with an insane chubster with massive tits and based on the look of happiness on his face I sensed he thought the slay was imminent
There was another really goodlooking chubtser in the smoking area who I had my eye on and then I seen her waiting outside the toilet and I wanted to approach but didn't do it due to thinking she was waiting on a guy to come out of toilet but I really should've just went for it, then next thing I see a bouncer talking to her and the chance had passed.
We were now on the bottom floor of the club, I approached a girl waiting on her own but she didnt speak english
The blonde foid and the LTB were still with us at this point but I wanted to try pull on the dancefloor so went on there but the other guys weren't into it so it would've just been some non smooth, 3:30am desperation approaches that girls soak validation from so i didnt do it and now the other girls had left which I wasnt particularly bothered about
We left the venue but they decided just to get a taxi so we went are separate ways but it was good to make contacts like that and I may hopefully encounter them again in future if I move here.
Some things to note about Finns in general is that there's a lot of HTNs here but they don't particularly fall under the label of low trust or prettyboy, they just have good ratios without anything in excess for the most part.
For me the competition/mog feels more brutal when there are low trust looking guys or prettyboys around due to those being the two prime archetypes in Ireland for slaying.
I am probably getting mogged by Chadlites on a semi regular basis but it's harder to truly recognize where HTN ends and Chadlite starts when you are looking at guys of a different pheno that you're not familiar with.
Even though I'm less likely to recognize a mog from a blonde male, I do question how much the blonde hair and tanned skin coloring is haloing them and if they'd actually descend with dark hair and pale skin.
Since I haven't noticed any MTNs with the low trust look like is common in Ireland, I dont feel like I am competing against MTNs for the same foids like I would be in Ireland.
I also think it is good that the guys are tall here because it seems I wont have to compete against manlets here like I would have to do in Ireland
Overall I think it's worth the tradeoff of being in an environment with higher average male looks and height for the sake of having such a high percentage of attractive foids.
In Dublin I can walk the streets for 30 minutes and not see a foid I have an urge to approach, there's a foid on the streets here I'd have an urge to approach every couple of minutes.
I aim to just start going for attractive girls from now on since dumpster diving doesn't work for me anymore and decent foids in Finland actually make eye contact with me which I would say is the first other country I've been too outside of Ireland where I get this level of eye contact.
I think if I move here I would need to learn the language just to feel truly invloved
Even though almost everyone speaks english, if I wanted to understand people when they are in groups and talking amongst themselves I'd have to learn it so I'm not stuck on the outskirts like a tool. It would also be beneficial for getting a bouncer job. I seen a cute foid happily engaging with a masc bouncer and it reminded me of bouncer game potential.
With relation to sober street approaching, I think now that I've gotten some approaches out of the way I need to start running just be creepy game and hit on the girl from the start rather than just asking them general shit as if I'm looking for help because then when I switch the tone over to looking for their number it can catch them off guard and make them think I just wasted their time asking for their help on something because I didn't have it in me to flirt with them from the start
@New Poster Sober street approach info in purple
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A girl was walking towards me on the footpath but not looking at me
She was moving quite fast and had earphones in but I stopped her and asked how she was
I think she said fine or something then I asked if she planned on going out tonight and she said no and started to walk on
There was no rudeness about it but it felt good just to get a high difficulty kind of approach out of the way since she had earphones in and wasn't looking at me until I stopped her.
My voice was terrible and sounded high cortisol for lack of a better description because of how out of my comfort zone I was
I think this largely contributed to her moving on quickly when she said no about going out although if I could think quick enough I may have been able to extend the convo but it was effectively doomed off first impression caused by my voice being shit.
The girl was probably around 19 and decent looking but not the archetype of the generically goodlooking Nordic foid
About an hour later I seen a foid walking towards me with her dog so I stopped her to ask if she knows any good bars to go to on a Friday night and she invested into the convo by asking what kind of music I was looking for and if I wanted to go to the bar now or later then I asked how Friday night compared to Saturday night then asked if she was going out over the weekend and she told me she was going to pride Saturday so I asked if I could get her number and maybe we could meet up tomorrow and she said no with a laugh. She seemed somewhat flattered by it rather than it being a rude laugh.
She looked around 30 and was a bit chubster and had the appearance of someone who's not really in the dating game or a chad chaser.
She looked like the kind of girl to have a LTN/MTN boyfriend in their 30s rather than a looksmaxxing peterpan maxxer.
I could've extended the convo more but figured I'd ask for a number just to practice the act of doing so while I hadn't made any mistakes verbally or stumbled on my words despite feeling shaky internally.
After that approach I went back to my apartment to drink a few cans then I went back into the city and stood in the line of a club on my own with no opportunities to talk to anyone in the line as I usually would.
They kept a massive line outside even though inside, the floor with people on it was barely full so it felt a bit awkward being there at first, I was just ordering drinks then sitting around at tables.
I spoke to a couple of guys but it was just basic shit and didn't extend to any wingmanning
Then at the bar I spoke to some Finnish guy and asked if he had cocaine since I just got that vibe when I seen him in the bathrooms but he didn't
The guy was very nerdic looking and low appeal for club slaying but he was pretty tall.
He asked me my height and I told him 195cm then he said "I thought I was 195cm but I must not be if you are"
From what I see online there's only a 1cm difference in average height between Ireland (179cm) and Finland (180cm) but it feels like much more in terms of Finns being taller.
I'm not sure if it's just a case of me walking past more people in Finland than I have in Ireland in any time in recent memory so I'm encountering more 190cm+ guys or if the stats are actually off.
I'm seeing a noticable amount of girls who appear 190cm+, like a couple per day but I may begin keeping count.
I then go onto the danceloor with the Finnish guy and it seems a few girls are receptive to us being around them
We begin interacting with two girls, one had more sex appeal but wasn't that great objectively, the other one had lower sex appeal and had glasses
The finnish guy then started holding the high sex appeal girl while dancing with her so I thought it was best for me to leave
I then found another group of girls and began kissing an average-below looking chubster but she had a very robust bones and wide cheekbones so I'd have enjoyed banging her. She seemed invested as she spent some time with me at a table but ultimately left because she said she had to stay with her friends.
I got her snap and asked her to come over the following night and she said she wants to but she doesn't think she can do it and that she's scared so I asked her what she's scared of and she said it's something irrational that would just make her sound crazy.
A decent amount of time passed then I figured I had to go back to the finnish guy and the two girls, the guy was still dancing with the higher sex appeal girl in the exact same manner he had been, after a few minutes the finnish guy just decided to go and didn't come back and the high sex appeal one asked where he went like she was disappointed but she pretty much confirmed she didn't think he was particularly attractive but I could tell she was enjoying soaking up the attention.
I then got sexual with her and started feeling her ass and talking about going back with her and even said that her glasses friend could also come back and she asked if I was a player and I said I wasn't.
The glasses foid took off her glasses and actually looked fairly cute so if I had any sense I would've just went for her from the beginning but it seemed things weren't going anywhere with high sex appeal foid. Had I switched over to glasses girl the high sex appeal girl would've cockblocked I feel so I went to look for another girl
I went into another part of the venue I hadn't yet been in and seen 3 blondes right there with nobody talking to them so I began talking to the nearest one who was the least attractive with a shortface/low pedigree face and was chubster with piercings but lacking tits.
One of the friends looked very slag maxxed with lip filler and another was just generally attractive
Once I realized that they had a pretty open vibe I thought maybe I could've approached one of the better looking ones but I think I just subconsciously assumed they'd be stuck up towards me or have a guy already.
I kissed the chubster then believed it was a case of either slaying her or nothing so I was investing some effort
One of the girls said something about the chubster liking a blacks although her English wasn't good so rather than looking for confirmation on what she said I chose to ignore it but I realized she did have the pheno of a girl who hates herself and fucks blacks.
The club was closing so we all walked out at the same time, while on the street her friends left and basically gave her permission to go home with me but she was telling me she had to go home with her friends.
I was in that drunken state where I was shameless about being seen on the street with a low pedigree foid but if I had any resemblance of sobriety I would've just ditched her since I'd be sacrificing my dignity for fucking a potential mudshark.
Also when a girl is that much below your own lookslevel they often can only fuck guys who they feel are as unattractive as themselves
This was the most forceful and pushy I've been in terms of trying to get girls to come back with me since I started going on nights out again post surgery.
I used to slay chubsters with ease in Ireland but I'm starting to think having a bite deformity actually allowed chubsters to feel comfortable since I had a glaring flaw so was somewhat on their level.
I then walked around for a while trying to find my way to the busstop and stopped two goodlooking girls who were receptive and I called them hot and asked if they would go out again tomorrow and then got one of their numbers. I was still very drunk here but it was only when I asked for the number and walked on that I thought I shouldve just tried push to get one of them back to my place then regardless of how low the chances may have been since getting their number at 6am effectively means a 0.0001% chance of ever seeing them again.
I then spent all day in bed and on Saturday night I finally decided the leave the house late and got into the city at 1am
I got off the bus and was on my phone and some girl who was across the street walked over for what seemed like no apparent reason because she just walked straight back over across the street to where people were waiting for a bus.
I didn't pull the trigger on approaching while she was near me so I decided to walk over across the street to where her and quite a few others were waiting for a bus and I could sense people looking at me as I approached her which actually felt quite good since it was like people witnessed me approaching a hot girl with no fucks given.
I had my phone out and asked her if she knew where a cetain bar was and if she had been there and knows if it was any good so it was a low risk indirect approach but I figured after starting with that I could switch the focus onto her but the bus arrived before I could properly express interest but I think it may have been obvious why i crossed the street and specifically selected her to ask.
I then walked around the streets more and while waiting at a traffic light a guy tapped me on the shoulder then him and his friend who were very drunk started talking to me so I walked with them and kept the convo going then asked them their plan for the night and where they were going and if they have been to a bar I was looking for.
It didn't take long for them to tell me they were going to help me to get a Finnish girl and one of them who was HTN was telling me I was a handsome guy and should be able to get a girl here easily.
I had drunk guys say similar things to me in Ireland and England on nights out but hearing it in Finland made me think I may actually have a chance of getting a Finnish foid since I took it as an indication that my pheno can have some appeal here.
Obviously it would've been a better indicator hearing it from a foid but a HTN's opinion can't be that far off a general foid's opinion I believe
When they asked my age I asked them to guess and they said 20 jfl, I laped that I was 22
They were 19 and said that we were on the wrong said of town since I was 22 and that the clubs here are full of 16 year olds as if that was a problem
I cant remember the wording but they almost made it sound as if going for a freshly turned 18 y/o as a 19 y/o wasn't something they'd do and then they began talking about wanting to go fuck some moms but I'd say a lot of it was just drunk talk as if to suggest girls their own age are annoying and milfs are more thrilling.
One of them asked my height and I said 195cm and again he said it seemed like more and said he was 188cm
We were walking around aimlessly for a while but eventally we got to a venue and went to the seated smoking area on the top floor
They kept talking to girls in Finnish and pointing at me which was pretty uncomfortable for me because I couldn't engage in the convo it was like they were trying to sell me to the girls but I was just standing there like a tool.
The first foids they approached didn't seem overly enthusuatic but one of the guys stayed there talking to them while me and the HTN went downstairs
We then got talking to two girls and again he I was stuck there like a tool while he was tryna sell me and he seemed to be having some good flirting with this giga short girl then the other friend walked off. I was trying to say some stuff to the giga short girl but it was pointless and she seemed fairly drunk and hard to engage with when you aren't drunk yourself.
I entered the club sober and was on my first corona at this point and ended up having 3 in total then a vodka near the end of the night
I talked to a foid while waiting at the bar and she complimented me on my accent and said she hasn't met any Irish person before, I just used her as practice to talk to and wasnt particularly interested in her.
I went back upstairs to the other guy and he seemed to be making inroads with the foids so I sat down with them
Then I switched over seats to sit next to a blonde chubster who looked unreceptive at first when they were trying to sell me to her but now I was able to have a convo with her
I asked her pretty much all I could but then there was a period of silence and I effectively stopped speaking to her entirely from that point because it was just me asking her questions constantly and her not contributing much else.
Had I not been looking at her eyes I'd have thought she was pretty sober due to how little she moved or spoke but when I looked at her eyes I could see she was actually pretty drunk but it seems Finns can just sit in silence when drunk rather than having to be loud and active
The other guy was now sitting next to a LTB and they were saying that she was interested in me but I never spoke to her directly
The blonde foid told me that the LTB was from a different city and staying with her tonight so I figured that ruled out any chance of slaying the blonde
The giga short foid from earlier then comes to the table and starts talking to the LTB despite them being strangers
Then at one point the LTB is sitting on her side of the table alone so some Arab guy sits down and starts aggressively kissing her almost immediately
His worse looking manlet friends come over which failoed him imo and the giga short foid appeared to be telling her not to continue with him then she started pulling away from his attempted kisses and he was asking if the short foid said something bad about him (he was speaking english and couldnt understand finnish)
He may have thought he had a slay with the LTB but gave up and left.
I have to say it seems like a pretty brutal place for ethnics as they're generally standing on the fringes of the venues unable to get involved.
Wannabe thug game also doesn't seem to be in play here since girls just seem happy with normal, well adjusted white guys whereas in Ireland/UK foids will get with white chav WannabeThugMaxxers and will hence accept attention from the approaches of ethnic WTMs in clubs.
The two guys wanted to leave to go to the casino but I had bought a vodka and wanted to try approch since my inhib was lowering a bit
I seen a guy walking by with an insane chubster with massive tits and based on the look of happiness on his face I sensed he thought the slay was imminent
There was another really goodlooking chubtser in the smoking area who I had my eye on and then I seen her waiting outside the toilet and I wanted to approach but didn't do it due to thinking she was waiting on a guy to come out of toilet but I really should've just went for it, then next thing I see a bouncer talking to her and the chance had passed.
We were now on the bottom floor of the club, I approached a girl waiting on her own but she didnt speak english
The blonde foid and the LTB were still with us at this point but I wanted to try pull on the dancefloor so went on there but the other guys weren't into it so it would've just been some non smooth, 3:30am desperation approaches that girls soak validation from so i didnt do it and now the other girls had left which I wasnt particularly bothered about
We left the venue but they decided just to get a taxi so we went are separate ways but it was good to make contacts like that and I may hopefully encounter them again in future if I move here.
Some things to note about Finns in general is that there's a lot of HTNs here but they don't particularly fall under the label of low trust or prettyboy, they just have good ratios without anything in excess for the most part.
For me the competition/mog feels more brutal when there are low trust looking guys or prettyboys around due to those being the two prime archetypes in Ireland for slaying.
I am probably getting mogged by Chadlites on a semi regular basis but it's harder to truly recognize where HTN ends and Chadlite starts when you are looking at guys of a different pheno that you're not familiar with.
Even though I'm less likely to recognize a mog from a blonde male, I do question how much the blonde hair and tanned skin coloring is haloing them and if they'd actually descend with dark hair and pale skin.
Since I haven't noticed any MTNs with the low trust look like is common in Ireland, I dont feel like I am competing against MTNs for the same foids like I would be in Ireland.
I also think it is good that the guys are tall here because it seems I wont have to compete against manlets here like I would have to do in Ireland
Overall I think it's worth the tradeoff of being in an environment with higher average male looks and height for the sake of having such a high percentage of attractive foids.
In Dublin I can walk the streets for 30 minutes and not see a foid I have an urge to approach, there's a foid on the streets here I'd have an urge to approach every couple of minutes.
I aim to just start going for attractive girls from now on since dumpster diving doesn't work for me anymore and decent foids in Finland actually make eye contact with me which I would say is the first other country I've been too outside of Ireland where I get this level of eye contact.
I think if I move here I would need to learn the language just to feel truly invloved
Even though almost everyone speaks english, if I wanted to understand people when they are in groups and talking amongst themselves I'd have to learn it so I'm not stuck on the outskirts like a tool. It would also be beneficial for getting a bouncer job. I seen a cute foid happily engaging with a masc bouncer and it reminded me of bouncer game potential.
With relation to sober street approaching, I think now that I've gotten some approaches out of the way I need to start running just be creepy game and hit on the girl from the start rather than just asking them general shit as if I'm looking for help because then when I switch the tone over to looking for their number it can catch them off guard and make them think I just wasted their time asking for their help on something because I didn't have it in me to flirt with them from the start
@New Poster Sober street approach info in purple
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