JustGoTalkToHer
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Hello incels, losers, normies, and all of the above. Some of you may know me as "bigonial" on tiktok, as its came to my attention people are leaking my threads. My only ask of you is to keep this guide on this forum only.
Just like how every person grows up with their insecurities, they tend to move along and just accept them. For me it was a different case. They ruined my life, prevented me from doing the things I wanted and saw everyone else doing. I miss parties, social events, gatherings, and dating opportunities because of how much self hatred I had for myself. There was even a time I was put on SSRI's. My point is not to make you feels sorry or pitiful for me, but rather to give you context of my background so you can hopefully see eye to eye with me. As Im sure the sole reason we are all on this forum anyway is because we are not satisfied with something in our life. wheather that is our looks, height, wealth, or body. I wanted to come on here and break down little by little what i did to take myself from what is considered an LTN with zero social life, unapproachable, and a complete loser to somewhat of a decent looking 20 year old with ability to pull women now (the goal at the end of the day).
Lets get started:
this was my base at the unfortunate ripe age of 18. You could tell I got all the ladies....
and within 2 years everything changed. Bonemass, hair, social skills, coloring, and zeeq were what I priotiritzed.
By no means do I think I am a chad or some model level guy, but I am damn well happy with my ascension. Same human but two different lives in these photos..
No matter what anyone tells you, people 100% treat you based off the way you look whether you wanna believe it or not and I experienced both sides of that story.
so the first thing I did was hop on test, this accentuated my baseline bone structure that was decent naturally. My zygos grew more prominent over time and my masseters expanded. I attribute 90% of the bone mass to genetics though. Alongside the frame growth, muscle gain, confidence boost, and overall masculinity came from this one vial jfl. I cannot live without testosterone
Then you need to be LEAN, get down to at least below 15% bodyfat. This is the only factor that will show your bones, muscles, and "chisel" your face. There is nothing more jfl than high bf "looksmaxxer". DO this natrually or with glps idc just get lean.
Then grow put your hair. Its been proven men with long hair are more attractive and appealing. I know my hair isnt that long but compared to the dogshit I had on my head 2 years ago is a upgrade lol. Find a haircut to suite your facial structure and bones. If you are currently balding like I was, I hopped straight onto dutasteride .5mg daily along side 2.5mg oral minoxidil. This is the holy grail but side effects are expected. I was well on my way to being Norwood 4 by 30 and you have no life with no hair so lock that in.
Color yourself. Find what coloring suits you based on your pheno and features. I am middle eastern with already dark brows and hair so I would essentially try to keep pale-ish white skin, dark brows and lashes, and bring contrast to my eyes via waterline pen and scalera drops.
And overall taking care of health indicators and living a healthy lifestyle. Everyone on here wants to jump to drugs and surgeries before nailing the basics of hygiene and longevity. 4-6L of water and electrolytes daily, 3-7x days a week of any form of cardio, lifting weights ofc, and having a balanced diet.
Skin is huge, I mean huge. Do whatever it takes to clean that face weather its a basic facial moisturizer and cleanser or full on nuke Accutane. I have been personally experimenting with estrogen cream on the face and seems to be doing wonders with minimal systemic absorption. Diet and hormones matter a lot when it comes to your skin health too.
And then what nobody wants to hear, work on your social skills. I have realized myself and a lot of you aren't actually ugly and cant get women simply because of your looks, rather its your inability to start and keep conversations with the opposite sex. Lets be real, women do not approach guys. It is very rare and do not except a girl to come save you unless you are Chad+. Lead with initiative and be confident in your speech. Act as if you are already good looking as fuck and the convo your having rn is a daily thing for you. Don't make it a big deal. Women usually sense this on a guy and gives off the idea you are well spoken, and arent desperate.
Ofc there is bits and bits more to what I did but these were honestly the main culprit of what I did soft maxxing wise. I hope this can help at least 1 persona and if not, jfl this thread.
Just like how every person grows up with their insecurities, they tend to move along and just accept them. For me it was a different case. They ruined my life, prevented me from doing the things I wanted and saw everyone else doing. I miss parties, social events, gatherings, and dating opportunities because of how much self hatred I had for myself. There was even a time I was put on SSRI's. My point is not to make you feels sorry or pitiful for me, but rather to give you context of my background so you can hopefully see eye to eye with me. As Im sure the sole reason we are all on this forum anyway is because we are not satisfied with something in our life. wheather that is our looks, height, wealth, or body. I wanted to come on here and break down little by little what i did to take myself from what is considered an LTN with zero social life, unapproachable, and a complete loser to somewhat of a decent looking 20 year old with ability to pull women now (the goal at the end of the day).
Lets get started:
and within 2 years everything changed. Bonemass, hair, social skills, coloring, and zeeq were what I priotiritzed.
By no means do I think I am a chad or some model level guy, but I am damn well happy with my ascension. Same human but two different lives in these photos..
No matter what anyone tells you, people 100% treat you based off the way you look whether you wanna believe it or not and I experienced both sides of that story.
so the first thing I did was hop on test, this accentuated my baseline bone structure that was decent naturally. My zygos grew more prominent over time and my masseters expanded. I attribute 90% of the bone mass to genetics though. Alongside the frame growth, muscle gain, confidence boost, and overall masculinity came from this one vial jfl. I cannot live without testosterone
Then you need to be LEAN, get down to at least below 15% bodyfat. This is the only factor that will show your bones, muscles, and "chisel" your face. There is nothing more jfl than high bf "looksmaxxer". DO this natrually or with glps idc just get lean.
Then grow put your hair. Its been proven men with long hair are more attractive and appealing. I know my hair isnt that long but compared to the dogshit I had on my head 2 years ago is a upgrade lol. Find a haircut to suite your facial structure and bones. If you are currently balding like I was, I hopped straight onto dutasteride .5mg daily along side 2.5mg oral minoxidil. This is the holy grail but side effects are expected. I was well on my way to being Norwood 4 by 30 and you have no life with no hair so lock that in.
Color yourself. Find what coloring suits you based on your pheno and features. I am middle eastern with already dark brows and hair so I would essentially try to keep pale-ish white skin, dark brows and lashes, and bring contrast to my eyes via waterline pen and scalera drops.
And overall taking care of health indicators and living a healthy lifestyle. Everyone on here wants to jump to drugs and surgeries before nailing the basics of hygiene and longevity. 4-6L of water and electrolytes daily, 3-7x days a week of any form of cardio, lifting weights ofc, and having a balanced diet.
Skin is huge, I mean huge. Do whatever it takes to clean that face weather its a basic facial moisturizer and cleanser or full on nuke Accutane. I have been personally experimenting with estrogen cream on the face and seems to be doing wonders with minimal systemic absorption. Diet and hormones matter a lot when it comes to your skin health too.
And then what nobody wants to hear, work on your social skills. I have realized myself and a lot of you aren't actually ugly and cant get women simply because of your looks, rather its your inability to start and keep conversations with the opposite sex. Lets be real, women do not approach guys. It is very rare and do not except a girl to come save you unless you are Chad+. Lead with initiative and be confident in your speech. Act as if you are already good looking as fuck and the convo your having rn is a daily thing for you. Don't make it a big deal. Women usually sense this on a guy and gives off the idea you are well spoken, and arent desperate.
Ofc there is bits and bits more to what I did but these were honestly the main culprit of what I did soft maxxing wise. I hope this can help at least 1 persona and if not, jfl this thread.
