Nasal Anatomy and Botox

[zombie]

Greetings autists! figured id share my research on how the nose can be altered via botox
Firstly, anatomy
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These are the muscles that pull the nose either up, or down

-The upper and lower lateral cartilage pulls the nose upward

and the depressi septi nasi pulls it downward




The effects of this can be seen on the nasofacial angle, which is a good indicator of which muscles need to be hit with botox




Heres a picture of my side profile (extremely bad nasofacial angle)




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Vs an ideal nasofacial angle of 105 degrees (Sean Opry)


Loads of harmony ratios are affected by your nose which is why its important to have ideal ratios, ill come back to this later.




If your upper & lower lateral cartilage is too strong, you will get "piggy nose" with too much nostril show. Lots of shitty rhinoplasty surgeons in turkey fuck up the tip rotation, so this is common.






-Heres 2 examples of botch jobs
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As you can see, the surgeon over did the tip rotation and botched the patient, many people suffer from this when they go to bad surgeons






-this is what the frontal profile looks like of someone with a bad nasofacial angle
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This is prob a bad example because huge halos cover up the failo of his piggy nose and overly exposed nostrils but wtv





But in my case, I will opt for relaxing the lateral cartilages so that the tip can relax to its normal position of 105 degree nasofacial






As well as a few units into the alar muscles, which can reduce the alar base significantly. I will only opt for 4 units per side as my alar base is 1 millimeter outside my medial canthus.
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Relaxing the alar muscles will also help with creating an aesthetic smile
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Notice how little Matt Bomers Alar base flares when he is smiling? This is ideal



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I plan on doing 6 units into the upper and 4 into the lower (per lateral side)
-4 units into each alar base


https://aesthetics-shop.com/shop/ is where I order my botox from, use a 27 gauge needle but be giga careful because if you fuck up, its game over





But botox is a 4-6 month solution and overtime, the cost will add up so heres a permanent surgical option

Very detailed thread I wrote so go read this

If you are going this route, good I recommend it. Im only doing the botox because I can source it myself which makes it cheaper and I know how to inject it.

If you are retarded please dont paralyze your face off my advice

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But this is what it looks like, great results! she reduced her perceived philtrum length tremendously! You can get this effect via botox though





But if you want to make your tip go upward?
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you have to relax the depressor septi nasi with 8-10 IU of Tox and the tip will be able to go upwards



The alartox is giga popular with women on reddit but all the shit that I said is kinda uncharted territory.



I care about this because elongating the nose, shortens the perceived philtrum length which failos me hard.
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Both of these dudes have the same midface but bomer has a shorter nose making his philtrum unideal

good thread, did botox in the nose achieve any of your desired results?

 

[AySab]

Greetings autists! figured id share my research on how the nose can be altered via botox
Firstly, anatomy
View attachment 2792905

View attachment 2792907

These are the muscles that pull the nose either up, or down

-The upper and lower lateral cartilage pulls the nose upward

and the depressi septi nasi pulls it downward




The effects of this can be seen on the nasofacial angle, which is a good indicator of which muscles need to be hit with botox




Heres a picture of my side profile (extremely bad nasofacial angle)




View attachment 2792919

Vs an ideal nasofacial angle of 105 degrees (Sean Opry)


Loads of harmony ratios are affected by your nose which is why its important to have ideal ratios, ill come back to this later.




If your upper & lower lateral cartilage is too strong, you will get "piggy nose" with too much nostril show. Lots of shitty rhinoplasty surgeons in turkey fuck up the tip rotation, so this is common.






-Heres 2 examples of botch jobs
View attachment 2792927View attachment 2792929


As you can see, the surgeon over did the tip rotation and botched the patient, many people suffer from this when they go to bad surgeons






-this is what the frontal profile looks like of someone with a bad nasofacial angle
View attachment 2792931

This is prob a bad example because huge halos cover up the failo of his piggy nose and overly exposed nostrils but wtv





But in my case, I will opt for relaxing the lateral cartilages so that the tip can relax to its normal position of 105 degree nasofacial






As well as a few units into the alar muscles, which can reduce the alar base significantly. I will only opt for 4 units per side as my alar base is 1 millimeter outside my medial canthus.
View attachment 2792939

Relaxing the alar muscles will also help with creating an aesthetic smile
View attachment 2792947

Notice how little Matt Bomers Alar base flares when he is smiling? This is ideal



View attachment 2792905
I plan on doing 6 units into the upper and 4 into the lower (per lateral side)
-4 units into each alar base


https://aesthetics-shop.com/shop/ is where I order my botox from, use a 27 gauge needle but be giga careful because if you fuck up, its game over





But botox is a 4-6 month solution and overtime, the cost will add up so heres a permanent surgical option

Very detailed thread I wrote so go read this

If you are going this route, good I recommend it. Im only doing the botox because I can source it myself which makes it cheaper and I know how to inject it.

If you are retarded please dont paralyze your face off my advice

View attachment 2792957

But this is what it looks like, great results! she reduced her perceived philtrum length tremendously! You can get this effect via botox though





But if you want to make your tip go upward?
View attachment 2792961

you have to relax the depressor septi nasi with 8-10 IU of Tox and the tip will be able to go upwards



The alartox is giga popular with women on reddit but all the shit that I said is kinda uncharted territory.



I care about this because elongating the nose, shortens the perceived philtrum length which failos me hard.
View attachment 2792966View attachment 2792967

Both of these dudes have the same midface but bomer has a shorter nose making his philtrum unideal

hey, just wanted to correct some incorrect statements made here. The angle you are referring to is actually called the nasolabial angle, which when measured, yours is high, similar to damian katers. The ideal is 90-95°, I have no idea who measured the sean o pry photo, but it isn’t the ideal measurement. Also Matt’s philtrum is perfectly fine in all his measurements, he averages a 96% frontal face harmony which is only hold back by his long forehead.

 

[AySab]

Not true the nasolabial angle is around 100 ideally damian looks like a pig with his

damian’s nasolabial is around 105°, ideal is 90-95°.

Defining the ideal nasolabial angle - PubMed

The authors' results indicate a much closer range of nasolabial angle between men and women than previously reported in the literature. This study is the first of its type to objectively define the ideal aesthetic nasolabial angle. In addition, the ideal nasolabial angle for women was found to...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Nasal Reshaping | Dr. Neil Tanna

Dr. Neil Tanna believes rhinoplasty is not a one size fits all operation. Learn more about nasal analysis and his unique tailor-made approach to rhinoplasty.

www.neiltanna.com

 

[can’t relate]

Where do you get things to get rid of the pain when injecting it or making incisions

 

[Deleted member 45780]

Asked chatpgt about this and it said the upper lateral cartilage and lower lateral cartilage are cartilage and not muscles so they can't be injected in. Is chatgpt wrong?

 

[AySab]

Asked chatpgt about this and it said the upper lateral cartilage and lower lateral cartilage are cartilage and not muscles so they can't be injected in. Is chatgpt wrong?

you need to inject into the muscles, not cartilage

 

[Deleted member 45780]

you need to inject into the muscles, not cartilage

I see, also how risky is this would u say? I ascend dead ass like 1 psl from this, and should I use IM or subq injection

 

[AySab]

I see, also how risky is this would u say? I ascend dead ass like 1 psl from this, and should I use IM or subq injection

not risky at all, IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING!
OP got there done professionally which should be the first approach.
wdym by subq or IM injection? it needs to be injected in the nasal muscles, its not like injecting vitamin C.
Do some research because one wrong injection, and your nose will be farked for 6months.

 

[AySab]

I see, also how risky is this would u say? I ascend dead ass like 1 psl from this, and should I use IM or subq injection

Invest into a book like this, i forgot the name of this particular one but it will explain everything that can be used with botox,
Good Luck!

 

[Deleted member 45780]

not risky at all, IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING!
OP got there done professionally which should be the first approach.
wdym by subq or IM injection? it needs to be injected in the nasal muscles, its not like injecting vitamin C.
Do some research because one wrong injection, and your nose will be farked for 6months.

Ah I thought subq and Im is like the type of needle apparently it's the way u inject it in. I'm in Mongolia for a year so I don't think I can get it done unless I larp about it making it harder to breathe, and even if I was in america my parents would think I'm gay bc of it

 

[Deleted member 45780]

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Invest into a book like this, i forgot the name of this particular one but it will explain everything that can be used with botox,
Good Luck!

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Invest into a book like this, i forgot the name of this particular one but it will explain everything that can be used with botox,
Good Luck!

also I cannot find the Botox on the website he linked

 

[AySab]

Ah I thought subq and Im is like the type of needle apparently it's the way u inject it in. I'm in Mongolia for a year so I don't think I can get it done unless I larp about it making it harder to breathe, and even if I was in america my parents would think I'm gay bc of it

you can DIY it, order some insulin syringes and korean botox

 

[Deleted member 45780]

you can DIY it, order some insulin syringes and korean botox

Whats good botox link someone said the botox on the link clavicular linked is way too cheap to be legit and clavicular got his botox at a clinic not from the link

 

[AySab]

Whats good botox link

@Clavicular pretty sure he just DIYd some botox in his nose, ask for his source/brand

 

[Deleted member 45780]

@Clavicular pretty sure he just DIYd some botox in his nose, ask for his source/brand

Thread 'I did botox into my nose and forehead (JFL)' https://looksmax.org/threads/i-did-botox-into-my-nose-and-forehead-jfl.987259/

@Clavicular give me legit botox link i give you repe on all yor psots

 

[Deleted member 45780]

Where do you get things to get rid of the pain when injecting it or making incisions

Just buy local anesthetic off aldaychemkst or smth

 

[Deleted member 45780]

Greetings autists! figured id share my research on how the nose can be altered via botox
Firstly, anatomy
View attachment 2792905

View attachment 2792907

These are the muscles that pull the nose either up, or down

-The upper and lower lateral cartilage pulls the nose upward

and the depressi septi nasi pulls it downward




The effects of this can be seen on the nasofacial angle, which is a good indicator of which muscles need to be hit with botox




Heres a picture of my side profile (extremely bad nasofacial angle)




View attachment 2792919

Vs an ideal nasofacial angle of 105 degrees (Sean Opry)


Loads of harmony ratios are affected by your nose which is why its important to have ideal ratios, ill come back to this later.




If your upper & lower lateral cartilage is too strong, you will get "piggy nose" with too much nostril show. Lots of shitty rhinoplasty surgeons in turkey fuck up the tip rotation, so this is common.






-Heres 2 examples of botch jobs
View attachment 2792927View attachment 2792929


As you can see, the surgeon over did the tip rotation and botched the patient, many people suffer from this when they go to bad surgeons






-this is what the frontal profile looks like of someone with a bad nasofacial angle
View attachment 2792931

This is prob a bad example because huge halos cover up the failo of his piggy nose and overly exposed nostrils but wtv





But in my case, I will opt for relaxing the lateral cartilages so that the tip can relax to its normal position of 105 degree nasofacial






As well as a few units into the alar muscles, which can reduce the alar base significantly. I will only opt for 4 units per side as my alar base is 1 millimeter outside my medial canthus.
View attachment 2792939

Relaxing the alar muscles will also help with creating an aesthetic smile
View attachment 2792947

Notice how little Matt Bomers Alar base flares when he is smiling? This is ideal



View attachment 2792905
I plan on doing 6 units into the upper and 4 into the lower (per lateral side)
-4 units into each alar base


https://aesthetics-shop.com/shop/ is where I order my botox from, use a 27 gauge needle but be giga careful because if you fuck up, its game over





But botox is a 4-6 month solution and overtime, the cost will add up so heres a permanent surgical option

Very detailed thread I wrote so go read this

If you are going this route, good I recommend it. Im only doing the botox because I can source it myself which makes it cheaper and I know how to inject it.

If you are retarded please dont paralyze your face off my advice

View attachment 2792957

But this is what it looks like, great results! she reduced her perceived philtrum length tremendously! You can get this effect via botox though





But if you want to make your tip go upward?
View attachment 2792961

you have to relax the depressor septi nasi with 8-10 IU of Tox and the tip will be able to go upwards



The alartox is giga popular with women on reddit but all the shit that I said is kinda uncharted territory.



I care about this because elongating the nose, shortens the perceived philtrum length which failos me hard.
View attachment 2792966View attachment 2792967

Both of these dudes have the same midface but bomer has a shorter nose making his philtrum unideal

This pic is also used in ur surgery post
is it surgery or botox

 

[lestoa]

ur nose looks rly good, fakecel