Nasolabial foids and tear throughs of doom

[Klasik616]

I look aged and my skin texture doesn't help, any fix?

 

[Klasik616]

I'm boneless

 

[slaters]

Weight loss

 

[zaebalsya]

fat graft
collagen maxxing idk nga

 

[Deleted member 276814]

I look aged and my skin texture doesn't help, any fix?

Bimax

 

[Klasik616]

Weight loss

Nah my dad is boneless and he's skinny, I got his genetics

fat graft
collagen maxxing idk nga

How to increase collagen?

 

[valentine]

i need a face lift

 

[AstroSky]

I look aged and my skin texture doesn't help, any fix?

the folds are often a result of not enough maxilla projection however there is a few tricks you can try that worked for me over the long years iv cared


Optimize your smas layer its what keeps your skin pinned tight when your young and quickly sags when your older. you can do a few things to fix this too. Look into HiFU and research how to use it buy a wand that gives hifu and apply it once a week, this will abuse your smas and force it to regen and also pin your soft tissue tighter or restore lost laxtisty pare this with ghk-cu less sun and tret and you will halt most of ages progression. stay lean do not bulk up and lose weight over and over this actually is what contributes to the skin sagging over time. its very extremely evident by seeing an obese person gain a ton of weight and lose it fast. you actually would do better to lose weight slowly than fast as your skin has time to adapt, believe it or not your skin has a limit for how much it can stretch before it loses its springiness. gusha also stimulates smas on a lower primitive layer which is why its not cope like other say its just not as dramatic as how hifu works hifu is basically ultarsonic waves that contract the smas. its one of the biggest looksmaxs most people can do if they have bad skin laxity.

matter fact its better to have tighter contours than it is to have big bone mass. alot of "boneless" people have good bone position but skin is not shrink wrapped on the face to show. i have been in many weight ranges and many skin "tightness" ranges. i have found i look the best with tight soft shrink warped skin so this is why i focus on inner tissue rather than bones. back in my hay day and when i was less informed i was thinking i needed bigger bones but i did not. i had good bones and position its just i got super fat in my youth and lost it too fast and this gave me almost perma skin laxity issues. smas conditioning and good skin care fixed this along with long term fasting (not forever just on and off) combined with jaw chewing to fill in the skin gave me my nice structure again.

but this is not a fluid process as it can often get worse before it gets better. the last thing you want to do is try to roid your way out of this as roids increase hgh and also promote growth of many tissues and its none selective. this is why roid heads get fat faces and look like shit. their softtissues grew too big and they lost that shrunk wrapped skin they once had before they roided (actually theres a line you cross where when you first roid you look better but lose it fast once you cross that line) but in general its better to have trt levels with controlled estrogen (dont go after low e2 ever if you want your face to look good)

 

[childishkillah]

How to increase collagen?

Microneedling @mcmentalonthemic have a BOTB worthy thread about it.

MEGAGUIDE | The Only Microneedling Guide you will Ever need.

If you cannot be bothered reading this guide, I highly recommend bookmarking or screenshotting it for a later read. Because If you do read this entire guide, and apply what you've learnt You will be one step closer to the porcelain skinned version of yourself you imagine in the mirror More so...

looksmax.org

 

[AstroSky]

Microneedling @mcmentalonthemic have a BOTB worthy thread about it.

needling is good but you must not use the normal cheapo chinese bullshits that are sold around here. the only device i use is dermanator its a bit pricey but the needle carts they use are top level sharpness and they did a video under a microscope only the dermanator leaves perfect holes and the rest leave dragged oval holes which in the long run contribute to scar tissue formation

 

[childishkillah]

needling is good but you must not use the normal cheapo chinese bullshits that are sold around here. the only device i use is dermanator its a bit pricey but the needle carts they use are top level sharpness and they did a video under a microscope only the dermanator leaves perfect holes and the rest leave dragged oval holes which in the long run contribute to scar tissue formation

Sup Astro

 

[AstroSky]

Sup Astro

sup man im out of my adhd meds so im coming here to get some dopamine helping people for some reason when i feel low on dopamine i get alot just sharing advice

 

[childishkillah]

sup man im out of my adhd meds so im coming here to get some dopamine helping people for some reason when i feel low on dopamine i get alot just sharing advice

In that case, considering you have one of the best Frame Ascensions in the community, would you be so kind as to share your experience with Tren?

 

[AstroSky]

all your answers lay here

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/of-the-SMAS-The-superficial-fascia-containing-a-SF-with-fibrous-septa-is-called-the_fig7_364102904

focus on the smas and you will fix your issues

 

[LTNUser]

sup man im out of my adhd meds so im coming here to get some dopamine helping people for some reason when i feel low on dopamine i get alot just sharing advice

Did you come today ?

 

[AstroSky]

In that case, considering you have one of the best Frame Ascensions in the community, would you be so kind as to share your experience with Tren?

good gains, fucked up mental health and makes you a degen. its truly the dark horse of steroids everytime i tried it i would think im doing great but when i come off and look at what i actually did while on im convinced it forces you into a more lizard brain type of consciousness and makes you a total animal.

it looksmin me and healthmin me too in the long run. only way id recommend it is if a very very short run with ONCE a year usage. no more. there is too much neg to tren with lots of usage than it is benefits

 

[childishkillah]

good gains, fucked up mental health and makes you a degen. its truly the dark horse of steroids everytime i tried it i would think im doing great but when i come off and look at what i actually did while on im convinced it forces you into a more lizard brain type of consciousness and makes you a total animal.

it looksmin me and healthmin me too in the long run. only way id recommend it is if a very very short run with ONCE a year usage. no more. there is too much neg to tren with lots of usage than it is benefits

Thanks brocel, appreciate it a lot.

 

[Zefus]

Nah my dad is boneless and he's skinny, I got his genetics

How to increase collagen?

laser resurface is best thing you can do for collagen/aged skin, one of the treatments where your skin peels off, like a co2 one

 

[AstroSky]

laser resurface is best thing you can do for collagen/aged skin, one of the treatments where your skin peels off, like a co2 one

great for the bulk of the outerskin but it will do nothing for true skin support. smas plus tca or resurfacing., smas is the layer connected to the ligaments and muscle of your face. if he wants to do something none invasive he should focus on hifu. it works and it works great when done long run. least cope skin treatment.

 

[AstroSky]

you can do smas treatment for free if you dont mind looking stupid. take a knuckle and slightly oil your face and gua sha it daily in the morning maybe 2 times a day. do that till you buy hifu then just hifu it instead more dramatic. will still work though.

 

[Zefus]

great for the bulk of the outerskin but it will do nothing for true skin support. smas plus tca or resurfacing., smas is the layer connected to the ligaments and muscle of your face. if he wants to do something none invasive he should focus on hifu. it works and it works great when done long run. least cope skin treatment.

face lift seems extreme, @Klasik616 can you post some of your face to show us how bad it is

 

[AstroSky]

face lift seems extreme, @Klasik616 can you post some of your face to show us how bad it is

well smas is is sorta like a none surgical face lift. surgeons often pull the smas layer when doing face lifts anyways but the cool thing about the human body is the smas layer can be stimulated to sit and stay tight.

 

[superpsycho]

i have the same shit, im pretty sure its a maxilla issue, no solution other than surgery afaik.

 

[AstroSky]

This is a really old image right now but this is kind of an example of how my skin looked when I grew my soft was tissue too big and my smas layer was not as tight

I started focusing on lots of treatments to correct this and I was pretty successful


i was roiding on the left and still had skin lax issues. same goes on the right but with much less skin issues. major lookmax with out any changes to the structure of my face.

 

[Klasik616]

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This is a really old image right now but this is kind of an example of how my skin looked when I grew my soft was tissue too big and my smas layer was not as tight

I started focusing on lots of treatments to correct this and I was pretty successful


i was roiding on the left and still had skin lax issues. same goes on the right but with much less skin issues. major lookmax with out any changes to the structure of my face.

Yep my face looks like that, sunken

 

[Deleted member 228591]

if the nasolabials and tear throughs were already there forever then its a maxillary problem so u need implants or lefort 1

if the worsened from aging you can somewhat counter and improve it by improving collagen in these areas (pdo threads, microneedling, tret/taz, vitamin c/e serums, red light therapy)

youre most likely still youngish so its probably from maxilla tho. you can get fillers and see if it improves, its not a permanent fix and i wouldnt put much there but that way you can see if you want implants in the future

 

[Klasik616]

if the nasolabials and tear throughs were already there forever then its a maxillary problem so u need implants or lefort 1

if the worsened from aging you can somewhat counter and improve it by improving collagen in these areas (pdo threads, microneedling, tret/taz, vitamin c/e serums, red light therapy)

youre most likely still youngish so its probably from maxilla tho. you can get fillers and see if it improves, its not a permanent fix and i wouldnt put much there but that way you can see if you want implants in the future

 

[peobox]

worst failo i have by far makes me look so creepy in some lightings, only fix is surgery

 

[Saint Casanova]

Microneedling if it’s mild.

If it’s severe, it’s likely a bone issue.

 

[fuckinblackholethis]

bought derminator 2 - so much better than paying for professional treatments. i wanted to ask about hifu/rf wands. i saw that rf and microneedling are quite similar in purpose. is it worth getting the rf wand too. and also what to look out for when getting good wands. dr pen is fuckin ass for MN but so endorsed so wondering if same for rf/hifu

you can do smas treatment for free if you dont mind looking stupid. take a knuckle and slightly oil your face and gua sha it daily in the morning maybe 2 times a day. do that till you buy hifu then just hifu it instead more dramatic. will still work though.

 

[Ræta]

Nah my dad is boneless and he's skinny, I got his genetics

How to increase collagen?

Microneedeling/dermastamping

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

the folds are often a result of not enough maxilla projection however there is a few tricks you can try that worked for me over the long years iv cared


Optimize your smas layer its what keeps your skin pinned tight when your young and quickly sags when your older. you can do a few things to fix this too. Look into HiFU and research how to use it buy a wand that gives hifu and apply it once a week, this will abuse your smas and force it to regen and also pin your soft tissue tighter or restore lost laxtisty pare this with ghk-cu less sun and tret and you will halt most of ages progression. stay lean do not bulk up and lose weight over and over this actually is what contributes to the skin sagging over time. its very extremely evident by seeing an obese person gain a ton of weight and lose it fast. you actually would do better to lose weight slowly than fast as your skin has time to adapt, believe it or not your skin has a limit for how much it can stretch before it loses its springiness. gusha also stimulates smas on a lower primitive layer which is why its not cope like other say its just not as dramatic as how hifu works hifu is basically ultarsonic waves that contract the smas. its one of the biggest looksmaxs most people can do if they have bad skin laxity.

matter fact its better to have tighter contours than it is to have big bone mass. alot of "boneless" people have good bone position but skin is not shrink wrapped on the face to show. i have been in many weight ranges and many skin "tightness" ranges. i have found i look the best with tight soft shrink warped skin so this is why i focus on inner tissue rather than bones. back in my hay day and when i was less informed i was thinking i needed bigger bones but i did not. i had good bones and position its just i got super fat in my youth and lost it too fast and this gave me almost perma skin laxity issues. smas conditioning and good skin care fixed this along with long term fasting (not forever just on and off) combined with jaw chewing to fill in the skin gave me my nice structure again.

but this is not a fluid process as it can often get worse before it gets better. the last thing you want to do is try to roid your way out of this as roids increase hgh and also promote growth of many tissues and its none selective. this is why roid heads get fat faces and look like shit. their softtissues grew too big and they lost that shrunk wrapped skin they once had before they roided (actually theres a line you cross where when you first roid you look better but lose it fast once you cross that line) but in general its better to have trt levels with controlled estrogen (dont go after low e2 ever if you want your face to look good)

and what would you say would happen if I took 25mg of aromasin every week with my trt probably leading to low e2

 

[just a user]

the folds are often a result of not enough maxilla projection however there is a few tricks you can try that worked for me over the long years iv cared


Optimize your smas layer its what keeps your skin pinned tight when your young and quickly sags when your older. you can do a few things to fix this too. Look into HiFU and research how to use it buy a wand that gives hifu and apply it once a week, this will abuse your smas and force it to regen and also pin your soft tissue tighter or restore lost laxtisty pare this with ghk-cu less sun and tret and you will halt most of ages progression. stay lean do not bulk up and lose weight over and over this actually is what contributes to the skin sagging over time. its very extremely evident by seeing an obese person gain a ton of weight and lose it fast. you actually would do better to lose weight slowly than fast as your skin has time to adapt, believe it or not your skin has a limit for how much it can stretch before it loses its springiness. gusha also stimulates smas on a lower primitive layer which is why its not cope like other say its just not as dramatic as how hifu works hifu is basically ultarsonic waves that contract the smas. its one of the biggest looksmaxs most people can do if they have bad skin laxity.

matter fact its better to have tighter contours than it is to have big bone mass. alot of "boneless" people have good bone position but skin is not shrink wrapped on the face to show. i have been in many weight ranges and many skin "tightness" ranges. i have found i look the best with tight soft shrink warped skin so this is why i focus on inner tissue rather than bones. back in my hay day and when i was less informed i was thinking i needed bigger bones but i did not. i had good bones and position its just i got super fat in my youth and lost it too fast and this gave me almost perma skin laxity issues. smas conditioning and good skin care fixed this along with long term fasting (not forever just on and off) combined with jaw chewing to fill in the skin gave me my nice structure again.

but this is not a fluid process as it can often get worse before it gets better. the last thing you want to do is try to roid your way out of this as roids increase hgh and also promote growth of many tissues and its none selective. this is why roid heads get fat faces and look like shit. their softtissues grew too big and they lost that shrunk wrapped skin they once had before they roided (actually theres a line you cross where when you first roid you look better but lose it fast once you cross that line) but in general its better to have trt levels with controlled estrogen (dont go after low e2 ever if you want your face to look good)

what was yours smas conditionig? did you just prevent further growth or used hifu or other stuff