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People say I can still get crazy skull development if I just eat well, get good sleep and optimise test and hormones in general naturally, I wonder if this is true to an extent or just cope. I think with this “natural development” I could still look above average considering I’m 16 and get told I have a lot of potential, but if I take roids I reckon I could get a crazy amount of gains. But I’ve also heard people start roiding at like 18 or 20 for a few years and still get crazy results so idk what to think about this situation.
 
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I think this is very stupid to do steroids at such a crucial stage of your development just to boost your natural development.

Just how sure are we that they play such a big role in the end? Does the man who reaches 6'5 was destined to be this high or was it the gear that bumped him 5 inches more?

Do you really want to risk your health in the long run for something as trivial as this? You're only there once remember.
 
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I think this is very stupid to do steroids at such a crucial stage of your development just to boost your natural development.

Just how sure are we that they play such a big role in the end? Does the man who reaches 6'5 was destined to be this high or was it the gear that bumped him 5 inches more?

Do you really want to risk your health in the long run for something as trivial as this? You're only there once remember.
Yeah I understand where your coming from, for me I’m already well off I’m 6ft that’s already good enough but for some of my friends who are 5’3 that are invisible it’s a risk worth taking for them.

But something as simple as a few month cycle for sure take some years off of your life guaranteed but it can make it so much better to the point where the trade off is a net positive for a better but slightly shorter life you know what I mean?
 
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Yeah I understand where your coming from, for me I’m already well off I’m 6ft that’s already good enough but for some of my friends who are 5’3 that are invisible it’s a risk worth taking for them.

But something as simple as a few month cycle for sure take some years off of your life guaranteed but it can make it so much better to the point where the trade off is a net positive for a better but slightly shorter life you know what I mean?
If you do a cycle for a few months youre not gonna take years of youre lifespan, if you use high iq that i think you have based off you writing, then you can use an ai script for a bodybuilding carrer over 15 years enhanced and still only take 2 years of you life so if done correctly theres like no risk and you can still get good bones/height bcs youre in puberty, so i think its worth it, but you could get the same results if you wait till youre 18. Im in the same situation and i decided to start at late 16 or early 17 so i can still mog the last year of highschool.
 
If you do a cycle for a few months youre not gonna take years of youre lifespan, if you use high iq that i think you have based off you writing, then you can use an ai script for a bodybuilding carrer over 15 years enhanced and still only take 2 years of you life so if done correctly theres like no risk and you can still get good bones/height bcs youre in puberty, so i think its worth it, but you could get the same results if you wait till youre 18. Im in the same situation and i decided to start at late 16 or early 17 so i can still mog the last year of highschool.
Yeah exactly that’s sorta what I did want but I think when I graduate which is later this year I’ll just get a chill job and grind, I could either do roids for a few years or get wrap around jaw implants cos my jaw is definitely my biggest flaw, either way it’ll be such high roi and it’ll push me up to cl if I take other measures. Thank you for the advice
 
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Yeah I understand where your coming from, for me I’m already well off I’m 6ft that’s already good enough but for some of my friends who are 5’3 that are invisible it’s a risk worth taking for them.

But something as simple as a few month cycle for sure take some years off of your life guaranteed but it can make it so much better to the point where the trade off is a net positive for a better but slightly shorter life you know what I mean?
I understand and I don't necessary disagree. It's just that all things come to pass, that feeling of being invisible when you're short is true but how do you think manlets coped a hundred years ago when there were no PEDs?

They lived with their short height. Happy and successful lives? Maybe for some maybe not. But dammit they lived and breathed despite the odds.

Just because we are bombarded with social media, crazy physiques, a burden of information and living with the fear of missing out does not mean PEDs are the fix either. People are just more and more superficial, standards are skewed and modern societies are heading in a wall. All things come to pass, even this unnatural trend. Maybe it's not worth taking steroids to play the game when this has to end someday even if we don't know how and when.

There's more to life than sacrificing your health simply to live up to society's standards. But if some do make the decision and live with no regrets then I can respect that.
 
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I understand and I don't necessary disagree. It's just that all things come to pass, that feeling of being invisible when you're short is true but how do you think manlets coped a hundred years ago when there were no PEDs?

They lived with their short height. Happy and successful lives? Maybe for some maybe not. But dammit they lived and breathed despite the odds.

Just because we are bombarded with social media, crazy physiques, a burden of information and living with the fear of missing out does not mean PEDs are the fix either. People are just more and more superficial, standards are skewed and modern societies are heading in a wall. All things come to pass, even this unnatural trend. Maybe it's not worth taking steroids to play the game when this has to end someday even if we don't know how and when.

There's more to life than sacrificing your health simply to live up to society's standards. But if some do make the decision and live with no regrets then I can respect that.
Yeah see I’m still on the fence with peds and you explained it pretty well to be honest, sometimes I’m keen for it sometimes not cos I think of potential things like fertility that I don’t wanna mess up but I feel like if i did it I’d have no regrets when results show and when I get to the level of knowledge needed with having a healthy life afterwards then I’d most likely do them
 
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Yeah see I’m still on the fence with peds and you explained it pretty well to be honest, sometimes I’m keen for it sometimes not cos I think of potential things like fertility that I don’t wanna mess up but I feel like if i did it I’d have no regrets when results show and when I get to the level of knowledge needed with having a healthy life afterwards then I’d most likely do them
Yes that's more like it. I also consider taking PEDs at some point but I'm already past my teenage years and development and still I'm weighing the pros and cons, just like you. I have been researching about them for two years and I want to learn more before making a choice and I believe this is a sensible thing to do.

In time, you'll know what to do. Remember patience is a priceless virtue.
 
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Yeah see I’m still on the fence with peds and you explained it pretty well to be honest, sometimes I’m keen for it sometimes not cos I think of potential things like fertility that I don’t wanna mess up but I feel like if i did it I’d have no regrets when results show and when I get to the level of knowledge needed with having a healthy life afterwards then I’d most likely do them
Other poster's arguments have great merit, however teenage years before fusing of growth plates have the greatest potential to accentuate natural growth, and usage of steroids past that point into adulthood would be far less effective, and at some point completely ineffective with added side effects from plate fusing, like acromelagy w hgh.
 

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