Natty gainz are an absolute meme. Gymcels and environment copers on suicide watch

Even if you don't have top tier genetics for gymcelling you should stop being lazy and just exercise for your health.

i have no issue with this concept
 
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This negro op really using some trash framed physiotherapist to disprove this

JFL, i don't know who copes harder, gymcels or people who swear chicago pizza is great...you just didn't go to the right restaurant, on the right night, at the right hour

keep coping
 
i have no issue with this concept

You don't even have to go super hard and super strict.

I lifted bitch weights and still ended up with probably the best natty physique here.

You just have to put in work, its rewarding. You will feel better in every single way.
 
JFL, i don't know who copes harder, gymcels or people who swear chicago pizza is great...you just didn't go to the right restaurant, on the right night, at the right hour

keep coping
Keep crying for me framecel
 
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This negro op really using some trash framed physiotherapist to disprove this
i really dont understand the anti-natty gymcel movement

whats the point really?
 
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Keep crying for me framecel

He lifted heavy things in a physical therapists office.

You're supposed to lift heavy things while surrounded manlets and baldies
 
i really dont understand the anti-natty gymcel movement

whats the point really?
Point
i really dont understand the anti-natty gymcel movement

whats the point really?
Idk tbh. Probably cope against gymcelling in general. Basically they say you cant have muscle or body without roids so they say whats the point and just abandon the gym or working out
 
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105kg bench, 202,5kg deadlift, 160kg squat (i dont squat too much) and 65kg OHP
Jesus fucking christ bro, that's more than double my Deadlift...
 
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Point

Idk tbh. Probably cope against gymcelling in general. Basically they say you cant have muscle or body without roids so they say whats the point and just abandon the gym or working out
Nah, mate

I go to the gym every day.

I just think natty gainz are fake and gay
 
Natty gymceling is a fucking meme and i say this as someone who's currently on steroids jfl if you think you'll build an impressive aesthetic physique without anabolic steroids
Doesnt matter if it was natty its natty achievable
Natty achievable my ass lol not with that low body fat and popping delts and traps
 
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Natty gymceling is a fucking meme and i say this as someone who's currently on steroids jfl if you think you'll build an impressive aesthetic physique without anabolic steroids

Natty achievable my ass lol not with that low body fat and popping delts and traps
Yea. Natyy achievable. Maybe not such a bodyfat bit the shoulders are
 
Lol if you believe that was natty
lol its natty as fuck. if u think this is not natty then you have no idea whats naturally achieveable. his entire progress and musculature screams of being natty lol
 
Yea. Natyy achievable. Maybe not such a bodyfat bit the shoulders are
Lol younre so clueless but hey stay in the dark taking steroids is the best decision i made in my life
 
Lol younre so clueless but hey stay in the dark taking steroids is the best decision i made in my life
"Clueless" jfl.

You are unaware of how different frames exist
 
oh behave

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lol its natty as fuck. if u think this is not natty then you have no idea whats naturally achieveable. his entire progress and musculature screams of being natty lol
Not even close to being achievable naturally i am currently on roids and was natty before and the difference is insane i am saving you time and energy if you want a physique anywhere close to that you'll have to pin and i'll challenge you to reach that level naturally i'll wait when you do pm if your physique is anywhere close to that(low body fat/popping delts and traps/muscle density)
"Clueless" jfl.

You are unaware of how different frames exist
Lol stay in the dark and lift natty and stay mediocre lol
 
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Not even close to being achievable naturally i am currently on roids and was natty before and the difference is insane i am saving you time and energy if you want a physique anywhere close to that you'll have to pin and i'll challenge you to reach that level naturally i'll wait when you do pm if your physique is anywhere close to that(low body fat/popping delts and traps/muscle density)

Lol stay in the dark and lift natty and stay mediocre lol
Im not even planning on staying natty. Im just talking sense
 
Even on roids I barely grow if I'm not getting sore after workouts. With the exception of my shoulders, they grow no matter what.
You have to work hard on steroids or you won't get the desirable results i am a juicer and i know what i am talking about
 
Idk tbh. Probably cope against gymcelling in general. Basically they say you cant have muscle or body without roids so they say whats the point and just abandon the gym or working out

THIS, I hate when people on here talk shit when they haven't even tried do the thing they say that don't work or they give up half way through. Such a bitch mind set. 😡




I went from a skinny rat to ripped with 2 years MAX using bitch weights too.
 
Im not even planning on staying natty. Im just talking sense
No you're talking out of your ass natty limit is so mediocre but you have been brain washed by fake natties
 
No you're talking out of your ass natty limit is so mediocre but you have been brain washed by fake natties
Jfl you are unaware so much.
David laid wasnt even that big
His shoulders (width) arenatty achievable
.

His muscle mass is natty achievable.

His body fat is probbaly close too
 
Reminder: 3 years of lifting heavy things, under the guidance of a man who proports to know how to lift heavy things:

1571756232884
 
Maybe he started out with a good build. I never said I don't believe in genetics
you bring an example of shitty genetics and frame and say "natty gymcel brings this to you"

i bring you someone with good genetics and you say it doesnt matter because he has good genetics

do you see the logical error
 
you bring an example of shitty genetics and frame and say "natty gymcel brings this to you"

i bring you someone with good genetics and you say it doesnt matter because he has good genetics

do you see the logical error

No, it isn't. I have a before and after. You just have an "after".
 
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i guess you also believe he's steroid user
<- leaner yet not getting dwarfed by bradly martin who is like 260 pounds juiced to the gills.

I would say he uses very low dose steroids year round. Possible 150mg test/wk and 300mg primo/wk or something along those lines.

Once you've juiced and witnessed the way your body transforms you can see other juicers. Those shoulders aren't natural, constantly staying that lean and full at the same time isn't either.
 
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Jfl you are unaware so much.
David laid wasnt even that big
His shoulders (width) arenatty achievable
.

His muscle mass is natty achievable.

His body fat is probbaly close too
Ok pal stay in the dark lol
<- leaner yet not getting dwarfed by bradly martin who is like 260 pounds juiced to the gills.

I would say he uses very low dose steroids year round. Possible 150mg test/wk and 300mg primo/wk or something along those lines.

Once you've juiced and witnessed the way your body transforms you can see other juicers. Those shoulders aren't natural, constantly staying that lean and full at the same time isn't either.

Yap you can spot them from a mile once you become a juicer yourself he's maybe on high trt or some sarms
 
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Not even close to being achievable naturally i am currently on roids and was natty before and the difference is insane i am saving you time and energy if you want a physique anywhere close to that you'll have to pin and i'll challenge you to reach that level naturally i'll wait when you do pm if your physique is anywhere close to that(low body fat/popping delts and traps/muscle density)

Lol stay in the dark and lift natty and stay mediocre lol
These natties are fucking delusional.

To get an idea of the real natural limit, look at old bodybuilders before the invention of roids like eugen sandow. Anyone significantly bigger while being at the same bodyfat is juicing.
 
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These natties are fucking delusional.

To get an idea of the real natural limit, look at old bodybuilders before the invention of roids like eugen sandow. Anyone significantly bigger while being at the same bodyfat is juicing.
Yap they crack me up lol but hey let them stay in the dark
 
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it depends on genetics
 
<- leaner yet not getting dwarfed by bradly martin who is like 260 pounds juiced to the gills.

I would say he uses very low dose steroids year round. Possible 150mg test/wk and 300mg primo/wk or something along those lines.

Once you've juiced and witnessed the way your body transforms you can see other juicers. Those shoulders aren't natural, constantly staying that lean and full at the same time isn't either.

i respect your opinion, but i completely disagree



this is how he looked 10 years ago. if you don't believe the difference between this and how he looks now is a natty achieveable transformation in TEN years then I don't know what to tell you
 
These natties are fucking delusional.

To get an idea of the real natural limit, look at old bodybuilders before the invention of roids like eugen sandow. Anyone significantly bigger while being at the same bodyfat is juicing.
you cannot compare people from back then to people now. first of all hardly anybody was bodybuilding back then so the best of the few is unlikely to be comparable to today's standards. also they did not know shit about building muscle and calories and protein and all the rest of the shit back then that we have available today so they probably could have looked a lot better
 
i respect your opinion, but i completely disagree



this is how he looked 10 years ago. if you don't believe the difference between this and how he looks now is a natty achieveable transformation in TEN years then I don't know what to tell you

Naturals who have lifted a few years fall for the "decade of training" fallacy.

They see the gains they made in their first few years so it seems reasonable to get a physique like that after 10 years.

Problem is as a natural you make almost no gains after the first 2 years and are maxed out completely in 4-6 years.
 
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cant tell if ur trolling or not but thats some aspergers shit right there if ur not
I was being dead srs, you make the vast majority of your gains as a natty in the first year given you take it serious, eat right take some decent supps etc.
 
Naturals who have lifted a few years fall for the "decade of training" fallacy.

They see the gains they made in their first few years so it seems reasonable to get a physique like that after 10 years.

Problem is as a natural you make almost no gains after the first 2 years and are maxed out completely in 4-6 years.
yeah i dont disagree with what you said, just based on my own experiences and based on everyone i follow i refuse to believe his body is not naturally achieveable
 
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you cannot compare people from back then to people now. first of all hardly anybody was bodybuilding back then so the best of the few is unlikely to be comparable to today's standards. also they did not know shit about building muscle and calories and protein and all the rest of the shit back then that we have available today so they probably could have looked a lot better
Eugen sandow ate mostly meat and eggs and he would eat a lot. Its really not that complex. You eat the calories need to grow/cut, grt rest, train hard.

Keep in mind that this physique is far better than most men ever achieve in the gym even with all of our fancy knowledge which is really just autism (muh protein timing) that nets you maybe an extra 0.6 lbs of lifetime muscle.
 
i respect your opinion, but i completely disagree



this is how he looked 10 years ago. if you don't believe the difference between this and how he looks now is a natty achieveable transformation in TEN years then I don't know what to tell you

now I think he's on roids
 
Daily reminder that in a study where there was a group who roided AND DIDNT WORK OUT vs natty workout group the roiders who did 0 working out gained a good amt more muscle than the natties who DID do strength training
 
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I have trained in gym for years without gaining any muscle because of my low-T genetics... luckily I discovered SARMs
I'm legit low T and don't struggle with gains in the gym, there must be another explanation
 
I'm legit low T and don't struggle with gains in the gym, there must be another explanation
i know the answer. he doesnt know how and what to eat or how to train
 

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