"Natural lifting is a scam"

[SayNoToRotting]

Is that statemet purpousfully contradicting? Or is it just plain stupidity?

Reminds me of "Mewing is a scam".

Who profits from that "scam"?

 

[Deleted member 209]

gyms

 

[Pietrosiek]

 

[6'4 looksmaxxxer]

Fake natties who try to sell you their programs and want you to follow them in social media

 

[SayNoToRotting]

gyms

You still hit the gym with steroids. In fact if supposedly you will only be able to see significant progress with roids you will be more motivated to show up at the gym the next time.

 

[Deleted member 209]

You still hit the gym with steroids. In fact if supposedly you will only be able to see significant progress with roids you will be more motivated to show up at the gym the next time.

the gym profits from the lifting scam

 

[Deleted member 3328]

lifting natty =

 

[Butthurt Dweller]

lifting and mewing are both 100% legit. JFL if you are not typing this from your standing desk, also.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

keep sobbing for natty lifters

 

[6'4 looksmaxxxer]

lifting natty =

Have you started the rad140 ?

 

[Pietrosiek]

lifting natty =

 

[autistic_tendencies]

People think it’s a scam because most don’t train hard enough to see results

 

[Deleted member 3328]

Have you started the rad140 ?

I'm planning on starting it next week. Gonna stack it with MK-677

 

[6'4 looksmaxxxer]

People think it’s a scam because most don’t train hard enough to see results

And because only a minority of mesomorphs or already well built people see an actual benefit from it.

I'm planning on starting it next week. Gonna stack it with MK-677

From where did u get it ? Online ?

 

[Doublex2J]

Look me, I'm natty

 

[Deleted member 3328]

From where did u get it ? Online ?

Yes, Chemyo.

 

[Deleted member 3583]

Look me, I'm natty

You're a manlet, doesn't count

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Look me, I'm natty

shut the fuck up

 

[6'4 looksmaxxxer]

You're a manlet, doesn't count

Leave him alone bro. He already need psychiatric help.

 

[Doublex2J]

You're a manlet, doesn't count

Look llados fitness

Leave him alone bro. He already need psychiatric help.

But I'm buff

 

[6'4 looksmaxxxer]

shut the fuck up

He's a mentalcel leave him alone

 

[Deleted member 2846]

He's a mentalcel leave him alone

 

[Deleted member 3583]

Leave him alone bro. He already need psychiatric help.

Everybody will be discriminative toward him in real life, so we shouldn't create safe spaces as they will be desensitised to the perils of reality

 

[Deleted member 2486]

they mean a a lot of things by it:

1. that it won't change your dating life cuz the benefits from being jacked only come from "steroid look". same concept as how 6'1" isnt really a "height halo", despite being tall, but being 6'5" is, despite both of them being over the average of population.

2. they mean that you can't build significant amount of muscle naturally and the people promoting it are taking drugs themselves, or have taken drugs in the past. or they take drugs currently at low doses, but at bare minimum they take peptides/clen and things of other sorts and promote themselves as natural to sell supplements, workout programs or just gain clout and build an image of a pipe-dream impossible to achieve.

3. they indiciate you're wasting your time cuz the side effects of steroids are overblown and its just pure fearmongering and with proper bloodwork/planning and control you can minimise the risk and not waste your time, therefore the concept of natty lifting is just laughable

4. that most people dont have the genetics for it in the first place. this can mean either height, frame, ability to build muscle, ability to retain muscle at lower bf% naturally, insertions, metabolism, T levels etc.

5. they often associate "natty lifters" with these soyboy bald bearded puffy 5x5 type of guys who are low iq, ugly and gullible and think they're tough when they're cockroaches (eg. jason blaha). natty lifting is often associated with these type of people, whereas roid culture is seen as "more cool" due to its nature of risk taking behaviour

all of these can be logically debunked 1 by 1 to prove natty lifting is legit, but its pointless, because anyone who ever touched steroids have already decided natty lifting is bad and its impossible to change their mind. bcuz them admitting "its legit" by their own standards would be them admitting to themselves they made a mistake starting steroids in the first place

 

[Deleted member 3593]

Lol imagine being natty

 

[Deleted member 2661]

Look me, I'm natty

Bro how old are you, can't be more than 15

 

[Deleted member 3593]

10% club enhanced lifting wya

@6ft1

@6’4’looksmaxxer

 

[Doublex2J]

Bro how old are you, can't be more than 15

18

 

[6'4 looksmaxxxer]

they mean a a lot of things by it:

1. that it won't change your dating life cuz the benefits from being jacked only come from "steroid look". same concept as how 6'1" isnt really a "height halo", despite being tall, but being 6'5" is, despite both of them being over the average of population.

2. they mean that you can't build significant amount of muscle naturally and the people promoting it are taking drugs themselves, or have taken drugs in the past. or they take drugs currently at low doses, but at bare minimum they take peptides/clen and things of other sorts and promote themselves as natural to sell supplements, workout programs or just gain clout and build an image of a pipe-dream impossible to achieve.

3. they indiciate you're wasting your time cuz the side effects of steroids are overblown and its just pure fearmongering and with proper bloodwork/planning and control you can minimise the risk and not waste your time, therefore the concept of natty lifting is just laughable

4. that most people dont have the genetics for it in the first place. this can mean either height, frame, ability to build muscle, ability to retain muscle at lower bf% naturally, insertions, metabolism, T levels etc.

5. they often associate "natty lifters" with these soyboy bald bearded puffy 5x5 type of guys who are low iq, ugly and gullible and think they're tough when they're cockroaches (eg. jason blaha). natty lifting is often associated with these type of people, whereas roid culture is seen as "more cool" due to its nature of risk taking behaviour

all of these can be logically debunked 1 by 1 to prove natty lifting is legit, but its pointless, because anyone who ever touched steroids have already decided natty lifting is bad and its impossible to change their mind. bcuz them admitting "its legit" by their own standards would be them admitting to themselves they made a mistake starting steroids in the first place

First time i agree with you 100% fitness wise.

10% club enhanced lifting wya

@6ft1

@6’4’looksmaxxer

Just started trt yesterday

 

[Deleted member 2661]

18

inject T

 

[Deleted member 2486]

First time i agree with you 100% fitness wise.

i think you may have misunderstood the last paragraph

 

[Doublex2J]

inject T

Loool

 

[6'4 looksmaxxxer]

i think you may have misunderstood the last paragraph

I skipped the last paragraph lol but besides the last paragraph it's all legit. So i 85% agree with you.

 

[Deleted member 3593]

First time i agree with you 100% fitness wise.

Just started trt yesterday

I pinned thursday, don’t feel like waiting any longer tbh and school started so might as well. Weather is great down here during winter so I can flex a bit along the way lol. But 15-17 weeks 300mg a week , will peak around spring break which is nice.

I really wanted to do the traditional 500-600mg bulk but decided it was too much, will prob regret it lol.

took a bunch of measurements and videos too

 

[Deleted member 2486]

I skipped the last paragraph lol but besides the last paragraph it's all legit. So i 85% agree with you.

the entire post was a satire. you agree 0% with what i said. in those 5 points i listed everything that I do NOT agree with, but i explained them from the viewpoint of roid users, then said I could debunk all of those claims logically

 

[6'4 looksmaxxxer]

the entire post was a satire. you agree 0% with what i said. in those 5 points i listed everything that I do NOT agree with, but i explained them from the viewpoint of roid users, then said I could debunk all of those claims logically

Hahah i only read the points. You'll realise ot eventually bro and you'll be posting about compounds in an other year.

 

[Deleted member 3328]

10% club enhanced lifting wya

@6ft1

@6’4’looksmaxxer

I'm 100% doing roids when I’m older
I'm 18 (soon 19) and I'm doing SARMs rn

 

[BigBiceps]

No it's not. Just takes a lot of dedication.

 

[Deleted member 3583]

they mean a a lot of things by it:

1. that it won't change your dating life cuz the benefits from being jacked only come from "steroid look". same concept as how 6'1" isnt really a "height halo", despite being tall, but being 6'5" is, despite both of them being over the average of population.

2. they mean that you can't build significant amount of muscle naturally and the people promoting it are taking drugs themselves, or have taken drugs in the past. or they take drugs currently at low doses, but at bare minimum they take peptides/clen and things of other sorts and promote themselves as natural to sell supplements, workout programs or just gain clout and build an image of a pipe-dream impossible to achieve.

3. they indiciate you're wasting your time cuz the side effects of steroids are overblown and its just pure fearmongering and with proper bloodwork/planning and control you can minimise the risk and not waste your time, therefore the concept of natty lifting is just laughable

4. that most people dont have the genetics for it in the first place. this can mean either height, frame, ability to build muscle, ability to retain muscle at lower bf% naturally, insertions, metabolism, T levels etc.

5. they often associate "natty lifters" with these soyboy bald bearded puffy 5x5 type of guys who are low iq, ugly and gullible and think they're tough when they're cockroaches (eg. jason blaha). natty lifting is often associated with these type of people, whereas roid culture is seen as "more cool" due to its nature of risk taking behaviour

all of these can be logically debunked 1 by 1 to prove natty lifting is legit, but its pointless, because anyone who ever touched steroids have already decided natty lifting is bad and its impossible to change their mind. bcuz them admitting "its legit" by their own standards would be them admitting to themselves they made a mistake starting steroids in the first place

 

[6'4 looksmaxxxer]

I pinned thursday, don’t feel like waiting any longer tbh and school started so might as well. Weather is great down here during winter so I can flex a bit along the way lol. But 15-17 weeks 300mg a week , will peak around spring break which is nice.

I really wanted to do the traditional 500-600mg bulk but decided it was too much, will prob regret it lol.

took a bunch of measurements and videos too

I went on a straight trt for life with hcg bro. Cycling is stupid because you'll lose a lot when you come off and your body will crash. My protocol is 125 mgs every 5 days with hcg to preserve fertility.

 

[Deleted member 3593]

I'm 100% doing roids when I’m older
I'm 18 (soon 19) and I'm doing SARMs rn

I’m so fucking stoked. I got a bunch of measurements down and videos I look forward to posting an entry here in 3 months if I’m still here. The PIP is killing me tho lol, virgin muscles

I went on a straight trt for life with hcg bro. Cycling is stupid because you'll lose a lot when you come off and your body will crash. My protocol is 125 mgs every 5 days with hcg to preserve fertility.

If you recover fast during PCT (young age w/ HCG towards the end) and keep eating a lot you’ll keep gains, not all though.

I wouldn’t consider a BnC until I was 35-40 tbh. But everyone has their perspective on it

good for u tho, pharma test as best as it gets

 

[Deleted member 2846]

I’m so fucking stoked. I got a bunch of measurements down and videos I look forward to posting an entry here in 3 months if I’m still here. The PIP is killing me tho lol, virgin muscles


If you recover fast during PCT (young age w/ HCG towards the end) and keep eating a lot you’ll keep gains, not all though.

I wouldn’t consider a BnC until I was 35-40 tbh. But everyone has their perspective on it

rip to ur testicles

 

[6'4 looksmaxxxer]

I’m so fucking stoked. I got a bunch of measurements down and videos I look forward to posting an entry here in 3 months if I’m still here. The PIP is killing me tho lol, virgin muscles


If you recover fast during PCT (young age w/ HCG towards the end) and keep eating a lot you’ll keep gains, not all though.

I wouldn’t consider a BnC until I was 35-40 tbh. But everyone has their perspective on it

good for u tho, pharma test as best as it gets

I’m so fucking stoked. I got a bunch of measurements down and videos I look forward to posting an entry here in 3 months if I’m still here. The PIP is killing me tho lol, virgin muscles


If you recover fast during PCT (young age w/ HCG towards the end) and keep eating a lot you’ll keep gains, not all though.

I wouldn’t consider a BnC until I was 35-40 tbh. But everyone has their perspective on it

good for u tho, pharma test as best as it gets

Cycling will lower your natural test and you won't keep much after let's say 3 months off cycle. You'll come back slowly to your natty limit.

 

[Deleted member 3593]

Cycling will lower your natural test and you won't keep much after let's say 3 months off cycle. You'll come back slowly to your natty limit.

Idk man, I read different but I’ll find out myself. I have the precycle bloods to see if I fully recover and I’m not at my natty limit so it’s not like the muscle I’m building is beyond my capabilities.

 

[6'4 looksmaxxxer]

Idk man, I read different but I’ll find out myself. I have the precycle bloods to see if I fully recover and I’m not at my natty limit so it’s not like the muscle I’m building is beyond my capabilities.

Bro take my word for it. Try for yourself experience is the best teacher.

 

[Deleted member 1464]

No it's not. Just takes a lot of dedication genetics