naturally long face vs mouth breather long face

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i see yall blame mouth breathing for long face. some of you are just born with long faces, it's not mouth breathing.
mouth breathers have lip incompetence and gummy smiles because their soft tissues do not align with their skeletal deformation.
naturally long faces have perfect alignment between soft tissue and bone so they have closed lips and no gummy smile even with long face.
 
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Crooked teeth, narrow palate shit lip seal with long face = Mouth breather
 
Crooked teeth, narrow palate shit lip seal with long face = Mouth breather
yes. native americans on average have long midfaces but they also have great mouth seal and palate width. they just have naturally long faces not from mouth breathing.
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think it's got to do with how forward grown maxilla is
 
compact midface is ideal, but naturally long midfaces can work such as in pic related
yes. native americans on average have long midfaces but they also have great mouth seal and palate width. they just have naturally long faces not from mouth breathing.
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His midface ratio is 1.1 you absolute fucking retard and no it's not genetic. Keep coping mouthbreather.
 
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His midface ratio is 1.1 you absolute fucking retard and no it's not genetic. Keep coping mouthbreather.
obviously it's above 1 look at the head orientation his face is tilted upwards. it's visibly long and everyone can see it you don't need to measure.
im sorry for you being born with the inability to comprehend perspectives but best of luck in the future ;)
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obviously it's above 1 look at the head orientation his face is tilted upwards. it's visibly long and everyone can see it you don't need to measure.
im sorry for you being born with the inability to comprehend perspectives but best of luck in the future ;)
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So what is the pic supposed to show?
 
So what is the pic supposed to show?
There is evidence to suggest that Native Americans may have longer midfaces compared to other populations. Studies have found that Native Americans tend to have a more prognathic (forward-jutting) maxilla, which can contribute to a longer midface. That is opposite of mouthbreathers which is downward and recessed. This characteristic has been observed in various Native American groups, such as the Navajo, Pueblo, and Cheyenne.
 
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There is evidence to suggest that Native Americans may have longer midfaces compared to other populations. Studies have found that Native Americans tend to have a more prognathic (forward-jutting) maxilla, which can contribute to a longer midface. That is opposite of mouthbreathers which is downward and recessed. This characteristic has been observed in various Native American groups, such as the Navajo, Pueblo, and Cheyenne.
There is slight genetic variance, yes. Different races look differently, but the deviation is pretty low. Mouthbreathing makes a much bigger difference.
 
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His midface ratio is 1.1 you absolute fucking retard and no it's not genetic. Keep coping mouthbreather.
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Niggas here think everything in black and white, nothing is more low IQ. Nature is always varied. There's bound to be genetic differences in almost every single trait.

God this forum is so unbelievably retarded, if you genuinely think these ethnics don't have a long midface as an inherited feature despite their great development, then you should consider killing yourself as soon as possible. It is clear as day.
 
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Niggas here think everything in black and white, nothing is more low IQ. Nature is always varied. There's bound to be genetic differences in almost every single trait.


God this forum is so unbelievably retarded, if you genuinely think these ethnics don't have a long midface as an inherited feature despite their great development, then you should consider killing yourself as soon as possible. It is clear as day.
The variance is not genetic idoit look at animals they all look the same. It's a result of different developmental conditions.

 
This guy is french/swiss but has a long face look , might be phenotypical like West-Central European
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I have long midface and I was never mouthbreahter. I have good forward growth and no gummy smile. . Sometimes its can be genes and sometimes just recession but recessed mouth breather will not have good forward growth.
 
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The variance is not genetic idoit look at animals they all look the same. It's a result of different developmental conditions.

Better this way otherwise we would all look same and we would call each other boring and ugly.
 
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i see yall blame mouth breathing for long face. some of you are just born with long faces, it's not mouth breathing.
mouth breathers have lip incompetence and gummy smiles because their soft tissues do not align with their skeletal deformation.
naturally long faces have perfect alignment between soft tissue and bone so they have closed lips and no gummy smile even with long face.
How do you fix this? Le fort 1 vertical impaction? Or will biting down on a mouth guard work?
 
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Niggas here think everything in black and white, nothing is more low IQ. Nature is always varied. There's bound to be genetic differences in almost every single trait.

God this forum is so unbelievably retarded, if you genuinely think these ethnics don't have a long midface as an inherited feature despite their great development, then you should consider killing yourself as soon as possible. It is clear as day.
wtf they evolved to look caucasoid
 

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