In Latin, "nation" is "natio," which comes from the verb "nasci" meaning "to be born," essentially signifying a group of people sharing a common origin or ancestry.
Stop the cope
500 years ago, there were no nations. There was no Roman nation, no Byzantine, Spartan, or Mesopotamian nation. There were people, peasants, loyal to a Tzar, a Pharaoh, a king, paying tribute and fighting in the wars of their rulers. They did this not out of patriotism, but because they lived in the territory controlled by this ruler, and for refusing to obey, they and their families would simply be slaughtered. Cruel? Yes, but how else would some king of medieval France, on whose territory lived several dozen different peoples, whose territories this king or his ancestors conquered for centuries, motivate all these people to go to war for him? From the point of view of the peasants, who spoke different languages and prayed to different gods, there was simply no point in doing this voluntarily. What difference did it make whether he won or lost? Today you pay tribute to one ruler - tomorrow you will pay another. What is the point of dying for him?
You don't even understand the mechanisms behind natural selection and group formations. Over for your IQ.
I just explained you how formation of a nationalities happened JFL
why does this matter?
no just funny, research the Israel/Jewish connection to Russia during Stalins control and the genocide of millions of Europeans in gulags from “Russian rule.”
Of all the heads of the NKVD, only Genrikh Yagoda was Jewish and he was the least cruel of the three.
Hitler fucked Op's grandma and forced his grandpa to watch
Then explain why multicultural societies always fail?
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Before the collapse of any nation or empire, it becomes multicultural. The roman empire after being subverted by Christianity and becoming a melting pot of mixing, collapsed shortly after. It goes beyond class strive that your idiot mind fails to comprehend.
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there's was NO roman nation
any empire falls because it is an EMPIRE. Being an empire is very expensive. All empires except the 3rd Reich fell because it is very expensive to maintain an empire
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Yes, there was. Rome was a nation state when it was a republic and an empire. It started as a population with shared common ancestry. Thus making it a nation.
No empire collapses just because it's an empire, lmao. Empires expand to minimise the offset of expenditure in favour of economic growth.
where did you find this retarded definition of a nation JFL
What the fuck are you talking about, expanding territories on the contrary requires huge expenses. Moron. How stupid you are. Once again, they are falling apart because it is very expensive to maintain an empire. They are expanding to capture new lands with natural resources.
You are mistaken yet again. English is my language. You must either adhere to the native definition or please stop typing in my language, dear boy.
Expansion cost is mediated by dominion over the conquered nations via imperialist rule. You are disproven yet again, Russian.
They are distinct ethnic groups and aren't the same, idiot.
Losers aren't of equal worth to superior genetic folk.
It looks good on paper, but in practice, it tends to ignore human nature and economic realities.
How so?
Assumes people will work hard for the collective good without personal incentives, but history shows that without competition or rewards, productivity drops, corruption rises, and governments become oppressive to maintain control.
How do you think it could be altered to work?
Hmm idk, it would need to balance collective welfare with personal incentives maybe through a decentralized system where innovation, competition, and individual ambition still play a role, while essential needs like healthcare and housing are guaranteed. Some kind of hybrid model like market socialism, might be more sustainable.
an utopian ideology that killed about 100 million people
Kinda sounds pretty based to me
I will correct. A person's nation is their native language and self-identification. That's all. There is nothing biological about it.You are mistaken yet again. English is my language. You must either adhere to the native definition or please stop typing in my language, dear boy.
Nation - Wikipedia
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'This word came via Old French from Latin natio, from nasci, meaning 'to be born'. The link between 'country' and 'birth' was the idea of a people sharing a common ancestry or culture.'
typical example of idiotic nationalistic view on nation formation. “common ancestral origin” is the main factor in nation formation – that’s crap. Even the English people are originally mixed (Angles, Saxons, Normans, Celts). So your argument is fundamentally wrong. The fact that a nation “collapses” if common origin is no longer the main factor is a prediction of a catastrophic scenario, not supported by evidence. Nations change and develop. They can become more multinational and multicultural. This does not necessarily mean their destruction. Changing a nation is not necessarily degradation. It is simply evolution, adaptation to new circumstances. Development, integration, the emergence of new cultural elements are normal processes.
As I've already stated. Nations are formed by a shared common ancestry. Once this element is no longer the main function, the nation collapses. What all nations later degrade to isn't how it started out. That is after the formation during it being subverted from it's original position.
No, idiot. They didn't do it for the sake of idiotic and senseless domination, but for the sake of resources.
"distinct ethnic groups" JFL
so the russian nobles were just genetically superior to the peasants? what a nonsense
as you've said; patriotism in an emotional manifestation of belonging to a group of people or what the group represents and its values. linking an inherently bad view such as this to complex emotions such as "patriotism" is absolute cope. patriotism doesnt equal total submission to the state, its a commitment to better society and its values while mantaining the ability to question authority. if you think something as little as patriotism is bad, i can only imagine how sterile and empty your idea of a good society is
I have clearly demonstrated that the word nation is derived from Latin to mean one people and I've shown the biological mechanism behind the formation of it. And the archaeological record shows that nation's historically have a strong homogenous basis to them. Until you are capable of countering anything I've said with actual evidence, you have no argument and are making a fool of yourself.
Nations only change after being subverted by outsiders and traitors from within. This after the fact and doesn't define the initial rooting of a nation.
Keyword, "distinct." The English and the Germans are separate ethnic groups but they aren't distinct from one another because they have a fairly close common ancestor. Just delete your account already, lol.
In the majority of cases, yeah duh.
keep thinking with all sorts of stupid pseudoscientific concepts, idiot
Do you see common sense in this? If so, ask yourself who you trust more:
Western European society is very developed, that's a good society
A "compatriot" is simply someone that shares your same nationality, regardless of their level of patriotism, so i have no idea where you got that comparison from.
Do you really believe all ethicities are equal
IQ distribution is still different from race to race. Its absolutely true that the environment can influence our development etc, but this still doesnt give a clear proof that genetically a race might or might not be better adapted to having certain traits.
I mean that patriotism contradicts common sense.
you know in the 30-40s of the 20th century this led to the most terrible consequences
You may defend individual liberties and democracy for a variety of reasons that are not necessarily related to love for your country or commitment to its interests.
you understand, nationalism and patriotism are either the same thing or very closely related and there are no noticeable differences
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