Need advice for cycle

[zascend8]

Very rough ideas, this would be first cycle

300mg test e or c I don’t know which j should pick
For steroid I’m thinking tbol pool or var im not sure what ill pick yet,
Test will be for 16 with pct with novladex
Steroids for 8 probably
What should I add/change/pick

 

[xenovia]

My first cycle is going to be test, tren, and mast

 

[bddcoper]

i would do 500 test, 50 var, 6 IU GH, 50 tren, 500 EQ, and you can also add a bit of LGD

 

[ghost!]

just run test and gh if u have money

nothing else no orals

do test c and run for 12-16+ weeks

 

[bddcoper]

My first cycle is going to be test, tren, and mast

good cycle

 

[pole]

test, mast and var should be good. cleanest cycle.

 

[tit]

Very rough ideas, this would be first cycle

300mg test e or c I don’t know which j should pick
For steroid I’m thinking tbol pool or var im not sure what ill pick yet,
Test will be for 16 with pct with novladex
Steroids for 8 probably
What should I add/change/pick

Just cruise, no need for pct, and up it to 500+, throw in some random compound midway for fun, mast or nandrolone or something. Why not. Thats what I did.

 

[zascend8]

My first cycle is going to be test, tren, and mast

Damn tren in the first is crazy, micro dose or regular?

 

[zascend8]

Just cruise, no need for pct, and up it to 500+, through in some random compound midway for fun, mast or nandrolone or something. Why not. Thats what I did.

I’ve heard more than 400 on a first cycle is a waste, but I dont know if I want to cruise, after next school year I’ll probably get drugged tested so I can’t roid so I wanna get gains while I can

 

[zascend8]

test, mast and var should be good. cleanest cycle.

I’m unsure if I have sourcing for mast, also what are benefits and drawbacks of mast

 

[zascend8]

i would do 500 test, 50 var, 6 IU GH, 50 tren, 500 EQ, and you can also add a bit of LGD

Would 50 tren have much benefit? Seems low even for a micro dose

 

[bddcoper]

Would 50 tren have much benefit? Seems low even for a micro dose

of course

 

[Arrlo]

i would do 500 test, 50 var, 6 IU GH, 50 tren, 500 EQ, and you can also add a bit of LGD

 

[Arrlo]

if youre gonna do roids you always start with test only

that way you know what it does to you in terms of effects and sides

its the base of every cycle so its important to know that

you build future cycles around that knowledge



or you can just blast all the gear you can find with no bloodwork, probably rape your estrogen and become retarded with puffy nipples

 

[xenovia]

Damn tren in the first is crazy, micro dose or regular?

like 100-150 iirc

I didn't make the cycle, my friend who's been roiding for a year or two did.

 

[zascend8]

of course

How much?

 

[zascend8]

if youre gonna do roids you always start with test only

that way you know what it does to you in terms of effects and sides

its the base of every cycle so its important to know that

you build future cycles around that knowledge



or you can just blast all the gear you can find with no bloodwork, probably rape your estrogen and become retarded with puffy nipples

How much a week and what ester do you think then

 

[pole]

I’m unsure if I have sourcing for mast, also what are benefits and drawbacks of mast

there is currently a shortage for mast and primo due to lack of raw supply, but you can still find some on ugl. people often mistake primo and mast for being dht derivatives but mast is generally safer than primo and less expensive as a cleaner compound. benefits of mast include hardening and that dry grainy look especially when cutting, strong anti estrogenic effects that help control water and estrogen sides, usually milder on the hairline for most guys compared to other dhts
personally i have seen nice strength and aggression in the gym with fairly low sides. drawbacks of mast are it can still cause hair shedding or acne if ur prone though generally less harsh than primo or winstrol, it suppresses natural test like all injectables, its not a great mass builder on its own since the anabolic rating is lower so best used as a stacker or finisher, some users get mood or libido issues at higher doses, and it needs more frequent pinning usually eod because of the shorter ester.

 

[Arrlo]

How much a week and what ester do you think then

i think 300mg weekly of test e to start

can go up over the weeks if you want to

but starting at 300 is good because you dont know what sides you will get

 

[zascend8]

there is currently a shortage for mast and primo due to lack of raw supply, but you can still find some on ugl. people often mistake primo and mast for being dht derivatives but mast is generally safer than primo and less expensive as a cleaner compound. benefits of mast include hardening and that dry grainy look especially when cutting, strong anti estrogenic effects that help control water and estrogen sides, usually milder on the hairline for most guys compared to other dhts
personally i have seen nice strength and aggression in the gym with fairly low sides. drawbacks of mast are it can still cause hair shedding or acne if ur prone though generally less harsh than primo or winstrol, it suppresses natural test like all injectables, its not a great mass builder on its own since the anabolic rating is lower so best used as a stacker or finisher, some users get mood or libido issues at higher doses, and it needs more frequent pinning usually eod because of the shorter ester.

Wish I could rep this twice

 

[zascend8]

i think 300mg weekly of test e to start

can go up over the weeks if you want to

but starting at 300 is good because you dont know what sides you will get

This is the price I’m looking at rn, im not sure what size I’d need and how much to last me 16 weeks, and for needles can I use insulin needles for sub q or no? Also If im right dont answer but I can just hide this in my wardrobe right? And I should take pct maybe some enclo and novladex?

 

[Arrlo]

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This is the price I’m looking at rn, im not sure what size I’d need and how much to last me 16 weeks, and for needles can I use insulin needles for sub q or no? Also If im right dont answer but I can just hide this in my wardrobe right? And I should take pct maybe some enclo and novladex?

you should be able to get 10 weeks of 300mg a week for like 35 quid im pretty sure

from what ive heard doing one cycle and then pct is a good way to lose all your gains

you kinda have to commit

 

[zascend8]

you should be able to get 10 weeks of 300mg a week for like 35 quid im pretty sure

from what ive heard doing one cycle and then pct is a good way to lose all your gains

you kinda have to commit

Shit, what about my hormones/ test suppression, should I just thug it out?

 

[Arrlo]

Shit, what about my hormones/ test suppression, should I just thug it out?

well it will of course already be suppressed by that first cycle

do some more research into how effective a single cycle followed by pct is

if you keep up really good training and eating habits you could probably keep a good amount of the muscle you make

you will just have to accept that you wont feel as good or have as good gym sessions or physique off cycle

you may have to come to terms with cruising on trt tho

 

[zascend8]

well it will of course already be suppressed by that first cycle

do some more research into how effective a single cycle followed by pct is

if you keep up really good training and eating habits you could probably keep a good amount of the muscle you make

you will just have to accept that you wont feel as good or have as good gym sessions or physique off cycle

you may have to come to terms with cruising on trt tho

Going into my senior year and once i hit college I can’t roid

 

[hexonoff]

Very rough ideas, this would be first cycle

300mg test e or c I don’t know which j should pick
For steroid I’m thinking tbol pool or var im not sure what ill pick yet,
Test will be for 16 with pct with novladex
Steroids for 8 probably
What should I add/change/waste of first cyo

 

[hexonoff]

Waste of first cycle

 

[gimmemastbrah]

Very rough ideas, this would be first cycle

300mg test e or c I don’t know which j should pick
For steroid I’m thinking tbol pool or var im not sure what ill pick yet,
Test will be for 16 with pct with novladex
Steroids for 8 probably
What should I add/change/pick

Just started my first cycle 5 weeks ago started at 300 test alone for 4 weeks and added in tbol at 30mgs for the past 8 days and it’s been great bench went from 205x4 to 225x7. if my source wasn’t sold out I definitely would’ve gotten var instead tho