Need advice regarding niche appeal (bald vs long hair vs potential 12% bf).

[TimmyAshan1]

So basically, my main issue is the fact that I'm a fucking fatass right now, 25-30%bf right now; although some have said that I am around 35% too (not sure how accurate that is)
I am already aware of some of my other flaws
Nose: Still swollen from past septorhinoplasty, it should look better in 4-5 months
Weight: I need to lose around 5-6lbs, ideally around 12lbs.
Beard: Probably should trim it to around 2-3mm I need opinion on your this. It used to be around 30mm before
Jawline/chin: Recessed, not sure if it matters too much IRL though and how much leaning out will help

I’m already hook up on Feeld and at festivals occasionally but I want to know how much the nose surgery and hair has helped so far, and what my potential could be when I get 12% bf and chin fillers

Baldness state:

Body stats:

Clean shaven (before nose surgery):

With hair system (and nose surgery):

Nose surgery:

My main issue is the asymmetrical nostril on the right side. I really hope this will go away

AI mockup of what I eventually want to look like:

I know that I'll never be attractive to the majority of girls at the club, and that's totally fine by me. As long as I'm still 'solid enough in niche' to hook up with drugged up hLTBs at festivals only and they'll ghost me after one night, that's totally fine by me.
I know that most of ya'll are probably going to say 'jestermaxxing' or something like that. But this is genuinely the archetype that I want to go for.

 

[IQmaxxedCHAD]

So basically, my main issue is the fact that I'm a fucking fatass right now, 25-30%bf right now; although some have said that I am around 35% too (not sure how accurate that is)
I am already aware of some of my other flaws
Nose: Still swollen from past septorhinoplasty, it should look better in 4-5 months
Weight: I need to lose around 5-6lbs, ideally around 12lbs.
Beard: Probably should trim it to around 2-3mm I need opinion on your this. It used to be around 30mm before
Jawline/chin: Recessed, not sure if it matters too much IRL though and how much leaning out will help

I’m already hook up on Feeld and at festivals occasionally but I want to know how much the nose surgery and hair has helped so far, and what my potential could be when I get 12% bf and chin fillers

Baldness state:
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Body stats:
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Clean shaven (before nose surgery):
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With hair system (and nose surgery):
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Nose surgery:
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My main issue is the asymmetrical nostril on the right side. I really hope this will go away

AI mockup of what I eventually want to look like:
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I know that I'll never be attractive to the majority of girls at the club, and that's totally fine by me. As long as I'm still 'solid enough in niche' to hook up with drugged up hLTBs at festivals only and they'll ghost me after one night, that's totally fine by me.
I know that most of ya'll are probably going to say 'jestermaxxing' or something like that. But this is genuinely the archetype that I want to go for.

holy fuck bro if you get a girl there is hope for everybody but defo go with the hair dont go bald

 

[TestoMaxxer]

Get off this fucking forum bro

 

[mtn_dude_193]

zesty ahh unc lmfao

 

[TimmyAshan1]

holy fuck bro if you get a girl there is hope for everybody but defo go with the hair dont go bald

Does the hair system look fine enough; should I use the bandana/headwrap or can I just expose the hairline itself?

 

[TimmyAshan1]

And any potential regarding niche appeal for when I do lean out to 12% bodyfat (potentially with jaw/chin fillers too, but IDK if that matters too much in my niche at festivals)? And can I get a hairstyle similar to the one with the hair system with a hair transplant eventually (first pic)? My main worry is that even IF I get a hair transplant, it will take me like 5-6 years to grow that long hair naturally and by then I'll be in my early 40s.

 

[Matrix88]

I love how different users can be in a forum lmao

How tall are you? If you're tall that would be a massive plus

 

[luvletter]

contact giant on ig, i think is the only way, hardmax yo shi

 

[Matrix88]

Get hair, dye ur eyebrows, get lean, start roiding

 

[brotato78]

I love how different users can be in a forum lmao

ong org has the most diverse userbase of any community ever

 

[TimmyAshan1]

I love how different users can be in a forum lmao

How tall are you? If you're tall that would be a massive plus

I am 5'10-5'11, I COULD technically wear insoles or shoe lifts wearing thick boots in this niche looks out of place; most are barefoot

 

[yushmaxx]

So basically, my main issue is the fact that I'm a fucking fatass right now, 25-30%bf right now; although some have said that I am around 35% too (not sure how accurate that is)
I am already aware of some of my other flaws
Nose: Still swollen from past septorhinoplasty, it should look better in 4-5 months
Weight: I need to lose around 5-6lbs, ideally around 12lbs.
Beard: Probably should trim it to around 2-3mm I need opinion on your this. It used to be around 30mm before
Jawline/chin: Recessed, not sure if it matters too much IRL though and how much leaning out will help

I’m already hook up on Feeld and at festivals occasionally but I want to know how much the nose surgery and hair has helped so far, and what my potential could be when I get 12% bf and chin fillers

Baldness state:
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Body stats:
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Clean shaven (before nose surgery):
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With hair system (and nose surgery):
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Nose surgery:
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My main issue is the asymmetrical nostril on the right side. I really hope this will go away

AI mockup of what I eventually want to look like:
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I know that I'll never be attractive to the majority of girls at the club, and that's totally fine by me. As long as I'm still 'solid enough in niche' to hook up with drugged up hLTBs at festivals only and they'll ghost me after one night, that's totally fine by me.
I know that most of ya'll are probably going to say 'jestermaxxing' or something like that. But this is genuinely the archetype that I want to go for.

hey if you arent worried about being infertile, roids are an option

 

[TimmyAshan1]

Here's an AI mockup of what I eventually want to look like, would this be achievable with just softmaxxing (and hair transplant; or I'll keep using the hair system if a transplant is impossible)?

 

[TimmyAshan1]

hey if you arent worried about being infertile, roids are an option

You mean using steroids? Because I don't want to be a 'hypermasculine gymbro who benchpresses 2x his own bodyweight for breakfast' or anything; I want to look more like 'a lean tantric shaman who can chop firewood if needed'

 

[Ravenfaust]

Here's an AI mockup of what I eventually want to look like, would this be achievable with just softmaxxing (and hair transplant; or I'll keep using the hair system if a transplant is impossible)?

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Probably achievable, but I honestly don't think that a hair transplant would even be possible for you seeing as how for a hair transplant you'd need more live hair follicles than you currently have right now. You could try a synthetic hair transplant, apparently they're more experimental at the moment ,but I'd look into them if I were you. Also definitely get lean beyond belief and start roiding, a good physique will definitely help you with the niche. It's good to see that you atleast recognize your own subhumanity ,but your standarts are way to high. At best you'd able to get drunk hookups with LLTB'S and even that's being very generous.

 

[WonkyChin186]

So basically, my main issue is the fact that I'm a fucking fatass right now, 25-30%bf right now; although some have said that I am around 35% too (not sure how accurate that is)
I am already aware of some of my other flaws
Nose: Still swollen from past septorhinoplasty, it should look better in 4-5 months
Weight: I need to lose around 5-6lbs, ideally around 12lbs.
Beard: Probably should trim it to around 2-3mm I need opinion on your this. It used to be around 30mm before
Jawline/chin: Recessed, not sure if it matters too much IRL though and how much leaning out will help

I’m already hook up on Feeld and at festivals occasionally but I want to know how much the nose surgery and hair has helped so far, and what my potential could be when I get 12% bf and chin fillers

Baldness state:
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Body stats:
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Clean shaven (before nose surgery):
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With hair system (and nose surgery):
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Nose surgery:
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My main issue is the asymmetrical nostril on the right side. I really hope this will go away

AI mockup of what I eventually want to look like:
View attachment 5320385

I know that I'll never be attractive to the majority of girls at the club, and that's totally fine by me. As long as I'm still 'solid enough in niche' to hook up with drugged up hLTBs at festivals only and they'll ghost me after one night, that's totally fine by me.
I know that most of ya'll are probably going to say 'jestermaxxing' or something like that. But this is genuinely the archetype that I want to go for.

gudluk niga

 

[TimmyAshan1]

Probably achievable, but I honestly don't think that a hair transplant would even be possible for you seeing as how for a hair transplant you'd need more live hair follicles than you currently have right now. You could try a synthetic hair transplant, apparently they're more experimental at the moment ,but I'd look into them if I were you. Also definitely get lean beyond belief and start roiding, a good physique will definitely help you with the niche. It's good to see that you atleast recognize your own subhumanity ,but your standarts are way to high. At best you'd able to get drunk hookups with LLTB'S and even that's being very generous.

I have already hooked up at festivals before though even in my current state, primarily due to high approach volume at night. Plus many girls are a lot more open on MDMA/LSD at festivals. Plus I don't really think I am subhuman (or at the very least if I am subhuman probably closer to 'high subhuman bordering lltn') because I don't think I have any massively detrimental traits that pushes somebody towards subhuman. My chin is recessed but it's not 'jawlet territory'. I am 5'10-5'11, but not 'manlet'. I have an asymmetrical nose, but even pre-surgery it was more of a 'sore thumb' rather than an eyesore. I would say I'm closer to lltn than subhuman right now.

 

[TimmyAshan1]

Alright, I want to actually bring up this topic again. So basically here is my looksmaxxing plan

* Get to 12% bodyfat (this is non-negotiable)
* Perfect the hair system or go to a dermatologist to see if I can recover flowy hair naturally. If I can't regrow/transplant, expect me to spam a LOT more hair system questions
* Continue doing skincare for 'glass skin' eventually.
* Chin fillers. I don't know if I need surgery because I think that hippie/boho girls aren't really demanding huge forward growth, but rather 'not recessed'
* Spiritual tattoos and some subtle piercings. Not overdone.

And as I said before, I don't think I am hideous, but just 'soft and asexual' because I don't trigger disgust from girls at all like a true subhuman would

 

[cctslbz]

holy fuck bro if you get a girl there is hope for everybody but defo go with the hair dont go bald

Idk if hooking with drugged girls at parties should be the ideal life but you need to try to achieve your maximum always . You def look better with longer hair , but definetly these are the weirdest outfits and no offense you look like you re in sum kind of cult . To respond to your question , no with that kind of pattern it’s mostly unlikely to recover your hair with any hair treatment because it’s too late . You should quit recreational drugs too since they’re not going to do much but make u ed and make u more unhealthy . But you should save up for hair transplant and try to grow a beard and look up how to shape it so it actually hides your reccesed jaw and gives the illusion of structure and you should get lean

 

[Looksmax.meOg2019]

So basically, my main issue is the fact that I'm a fucking fatass right now, 25-30%bf right now; although some have said that I am around 35% too (not sure how accurate that is)
I am already aware of some of my other flaws
Nose: Still swollen from past septorhinoplasty, it should look better in 4-5 months
Weight: I need to lose around 5-6lbs, ideally around 12lbs.
Beard: Probably should trim it to around 2-3mm I need opinion on your this. It used to be around 30mm before
Jawline/chin: Recessed, not sure if it matters too much IRL though and how much leaning out will help

I’m already hook up on Feeld and at festivals occasionally but I want to know how much the nose surgery and hair has helped so far, and what my potential could be when I get 12% bf and chin fillers

Baldness state:
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Body stats:
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Clean shaven (before nose surgery):
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With hair system (and nose surgery):
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Nose surgery:
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My main issue is the asymmetrical nostril on the right side. I really hope this will go away

AI mockup of what I eventually want to look like:
View attachment 5320385

I know that I'll never be attractive to the majority of girls at the club, and that's totally fine by me. As long as I'm still 'solid enough in niche' to hook up with drugged up hLTBs at festivals only and they'll ghost me after one night, that's totally fine by me.
I know that most of ya'll are probably going to say 'jestermaxxing' or something like that. But this is genuinely the archetype that I want to go for.

Niggas be 30 and on a forum with Fag 15 year olds
start a family gang

 

[TimmyAshan1]

Idk if hooking with drugged girls at parties should be the ideal life but you need to try to achieve your maximum always . You def look better with longer hair , but definetly these are the weirdest outfits and no offense you look like you re in sum kind of cult . To respond to your question , no with that kind of pattern it’s mostly unlikely to recover your hair with any hair treatment because it’s too late . You should quit recreational drugs too since they’re not going to do much but make u ed and make u more unhealthy . But you should save up for hair transplant and try to grow a beard and look up how to shape it so it actually hides your reccesed jaw and gives the illusion of structure and you should get lean

Do you think the hair system currently is 'fine enough' as it is? Or rather, is it an improvement over being bald?

 

[TimmyAshan1]

Niggas be 30 and on a forum with Fag 15 year olds
start a family gang

I mean I can kinda do both; I can get a job (which I'm still looking for), start a family (hopefully with somebody who is poly) and keep going to festivals in the summer

 

[cctslbz]

Do you think the hair system currently is 'fine enough' as it is? Or rather, is it an improvement over being bald?

Definetly not

 

[TimmyAshan1]

Definetly not

Anything I can do to improve it? I'm guessing the density of the system is too high and it sits too high? What about covering the hairline with a bandana like I did in some pictures?

 

[cctslbz]

Anything I can do to improve it? I'm guessing the density of the system is too high and it sits too high? What about covering the hairline with a bandana like I did in some pictures?

Just wear a hat and shave your head , no treatment would get u a full head of hair , you should of started taking hair treatment serious a couple of years ago when u noticed the first shed and thinning now only hair transplant , and get rid of the drug use u a grown man

 

[TimmyAshan1]

you should of started taking hair treatment serious a couple of years ago when u noticed the first shed and thinning now only hair transplant

Yeah... thanks /r/bald "JusT SHaVE it OfF BRo"

 

[cctslbz]

Yeah... thanks /r/bald "JusT SHaVE it OfF BRo"

Ofc that’s the response you will hear , you would look worse with 5 flocks of hair on your head rather than bald …..
This is the truth man , and quit them drugs and save up for hair transplant

 

[TimmyAshan1]

Ofc that’s the response you will hear , you would look worse with 5 flocks of hair on your head rather than bald …..
This is the truth man , and quit them drugs and save up for hair transplant

Yeah but they told me that shit when I was Norwood2-3 and I could still salvage my hairline T_T

 

[cctslbz]

Yeah but they told me that shit when I was Norwood2-3 and I could still salvage my hairline T_T

Well now u can’t so , u should of took action sooner but there’s still time to improve further on

 

[Yoshiteeq]

So basically, my main issue is the fact that I'm a fucking fatass right now, 25-30%bf right now; although some have said that I am around 35% too (not sure how accurate that is)
I am already aware of some of my other flaws
Nose: Still swollen from past septorhinoplasty, it should look better in 4-5 months
Weight: I need to lose around 5-6lbs, ideally around 12lbs.
Beard: Probably should trim it to around 2-3mm I need opinion on your this. It used to be around 30mm before
Jawline/chin: Recessed, not sure if it matters too much IRL though and how much leaning out will help

I’m already hook up on Feeld and at festivals occasionally but I want to know how much the nose surgery and hair has helped so far, and what my potential could be when I get 12% bf and chin fillers

Baldness state:
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Body stats:
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Clean shaven (before nose surgery):
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With hair system (and nose surgery):
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Nose surgery:
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My main issue is the asymmetrical nostril on the right side. I really hope this will go away

AI mockup of what I eventually want to look like:
View attachment 5320385

I know that I'll never be attractive to the majority of girls at the club, and that's totally fine by me. As long as I'm still 'solid enough in niche' to hook up with drugged up hLTBs at festivals only and they'll ghost me after one night, that's totally fine by me.
I know that most of ya'll are probably going to say 'jestermaxxing' or something like that. But this is genuinely the archetype that I want to go for.

Seeing what your looking for.. Honestly no/MINIMAL possibility you get your hair back unc, if you want to try to get it back, hop on dutasteride ASAP and oral minox

(4months ONLY oral minoxidil) so maybe u got hope..

Tattoos? i guess..? i’d tell you to look into roids, if you have an aesthetic physique foids drool for, it gets a bit easier..

You have a positive canthal tilt which it’s very good, with the oral min, your brows and lashes will look really good, also. YES trim that fucking beard unc, you look like a pedophile (No shade). grow the whole thing, from ear to ear, don’t just grow the front, and if your recessed, leave the heat on your chin, trim it to fraud chin projection and NEVER shave it.

That’s all i can give you, wish you the best and hope you ascend unc, tag me when you do so

 

[TimmyAshan1]

Seeing what your looking for.. Honestly no/MINIMAL possibility you get your hair back unc, if you want to try to get it back, hop on dutasteride ASAP and oral minox
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(4months ONLY oral minoxidil) so maybe u got hope..

Tattoos? i guess..? i’d tell you to look into roids, if you have an aesthetic physique foids drool for, it gets a bit easier..

You have a positive canthal tilt which it’s very good, with the oral min, your brows and lashes will look really good, also. YES trim that fucking beard unc, you look like a pedophile (No shade). grow the whole thing, from ear to ear, don’t just grow the front, and if your recessed, leave the heat on your chin, trim it to fraud chin projection and NEVER shave it.

That’s all i can give you, wish you the best and hope you ascend unc, tag me when you do so

Yeah I actually have been told a LOT that I have good eye area (I literally had girls flat out tell me this at raves/festivals). I would say around 3-4 degrees canthal tilt. I don't have 'hunter eyes' but I do have 'shamanic eyes' or something

Also is that only with minox/dutas or also with a transplant? Even if I just hit Norwood2-3 right now I'd be fucking ecstatic. I could probably do a hair transplant + hair system in that case.

I don't know what to do for my beard though, because part of me wants to just grow it extremely long and thick now to hide my recessed chin. I'll probably end up getting genioplasty or bimax at some point when I'm 12% bodyfat. And as I said before, I don't think I'm a 'repulsive sub5' at all, just an 'asexual/soft sub5' because I never get any girls who are repulsed at me, just mainly friendliness with no sexual tension at all with around 95-99% of girls I talk to. I literally had a girl say "Hahahaha you look innocent! I never expected this from you! I expected you to be more gente!" from a festival hookup.

 

[TimmyAshan1]

Also I was looking at this shit from somebody; IDK if this is cope/frauded with angles or actually legit. Because this seems AMAZING for chin projection!

 

[Yoshiteeq]

Yeah I actually have been told a LOT that I have good eye area (I literally had girls flat out tell me this at raves/festivals). I would say around 3-4 degrees canthal tilt. I don't have 'hunter eyes' but I do have 'shamanic eyes' or something

Also is that only with minox/dutas or also with a transplant? Even if I just hit Norwood2-3 right now I'd be fucking ecstatic. I could probably do a hair transplant + hair system in that case.

I don't know what to do for my beard though, because part of me wants to just grow it extremely long and thick now to hide my recessed chin. I'll probably end up getting genioplasty or bimax at some point when I'm 12% bodyfat. And as I said before, I don't think I'm a 'repulsive sub5' at all, just an 'asexual/soft sub5' because I never get any girls who are repulsed at me, just mainly friendliness with no sexual tension at all with around 95-99% of girls I talk to. I literally had a girl say "Hahahaha you look innocent! I never expected this from you! I expected you to be more gente!" from a festival hookup.

hookup? unc i didn’t know you had that in you, i see you. I’d say the whole beard look is better than the front beard just because it gives you more a defined look (as long as you don’t let your beard out of control)

If your considering hardmaxxes then yes, a hair transplant would work but still try what i told you so your new hair follicles don’t get raped by dht after you do the transplant, and even before the transplant it would be nice to have some hair.

You can easily get lean using a glp, seen great things about reta, but another good fat burner i’ve seen people use recently is DNP, would tell you to do some research on that and please hop on something, i believe it could help you a lot in terms of physique and looks overall

 

[Yoshiteeq]

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Also I was looking at this shit from somebody; IDK if this is cope/frauded with angles or actually legit. Because this seems AMAZING for chin projection!

yea, filler does this but it’s temporary and it could migrate, get an implant or a genio.. if you want to know more about a genio vs and implant, talk to @xsbrae on TT, he js had surgery done a month and so ago and before he had an implant, but changed it for a genioplasty

 

[TimmyAshan1]

hookup? unc i didn’t know you had that in you, i see you. I’d say the whole beard look is better than the front beard just because it gives you more a defined look (as long as you don’t let your beard out of control)

If your considering hardmaxxes then yes, a hair transplant would work but still try what i told you so your new hair follicles don’t get raped by dht after you do the transplant, and even before the transplant it would be nice to have some hair.

You can easily get lean using a glp, seen great things about reta, but another good fat burner i’ve seen people use recently is DNP, would tell you to do some research on that and please hop on something, i believe it could help you a lot in terms of physique and looks overall

Let's be honest, if you approach enough girls; one of them WILL say 'yes' to a hookup eventually. It's just statistics. I can easily approach 30-40 girls in one night. And most guys at these festivals barely even approach anyone and just show up in tshirts/jeans instead of fully committing to nichemaxxing. And plus, festivals HEAVILY lower the boundaries for hookups compared to clubs/bars. And IDK if this is cope, but I genuinely feel like at night whent they are on drugs, a lot of failos get hidden or become less severe.

 

[TimmyAshan1]

Alright so I've been thinking. I feel like my 3 biggest failos right now are baldness, bodyfat and chin/maxilla.

I'm already working on the body, tracking calories every single day. And I'm also talking to a dermatologist next week to see which Norwood I actually am because maybe it's less bad than I think. Even if I can get back to Norwood2-3 with a transplant, I would HAPPILY take that shit!

And I am VERY likely going to get chin implants or genioplasty, or at the very least getting fillers. I don't feel like I need a 'Chad chin', but just 'not chinlet anymore'. I feel like those are the 3 biggest levers to fix? Not sure what I can do about the maxilla, because those surgeries are probably much more extreme than anything that can be done with the chin. But I also don't know how much hippie/boho girls even care about maxilla; all I know is that having long hair is EXTREMELY important to them