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So I visited an orthodontist today and I already paid for my Invisalign. I told her that I also need a palate expander but she said I don’t need it. Then this foid says since I’m 17 I’ll only get 3 mm of expansion 🤣 . I already told her that I have trouble nose breathing at night but she said it’s not needed. I’m going to visit another dentist but I need some advice. Should I get an expander and what type should I get. Also how do I convince my parents that I need it?
 
get mse and say its hard to breathe through ur nose the whole day, even if it doesnt look like it on their end they cant say ur lying, insurance might cover it
 
get mse and say its hard to breathe through ur nose the whole day, even if it doesnt look like it on their end they cant say ur lying, insurance might cover it
I told that to that bitch but she said that I don’t need it because it won’t give me enough expansion. But she referred me to a surgeon for pulling out my wisdom teeth. I’m trying to convince my parents not to remove my teeth and instead get a palate expander.
 
shes only saying that because she doesn't have what you need
and just remove your wisdom teeth, you won't be able to save them with a palate expander lol
it won't change your jaw because they don't stimulate the jawbone in the first place (since you don't have enough space for them)
 
shes only saying that because she doesn't have what you need
and just remove your wisdom teeth, you won't be able to save them with a palate expander lol
it won't change your jaw because they don't stimulate the jawbone in the first place (since you don't have enough space for them)
But removing teeth would cause me to recess. My father also didn’t need to remove his wisdom teeth so wouldn’t creating more space cause me not to remove the wisdom teeth?
 
I told that to that bitch but she said that I don’t need it because it won’t give me enough expansion. But she referred me to a surgeon for pulling out my wisdom teeth. I’m trying to convince my parents not to remove my teeth and instead get a palate expander.
if u really want one there are a few places where u send in a mold of ur teeth, u pay like 600 and theyll send u one, but u have to be the one to put it in, and u have to know when to stop, its just the risk kinda outweighs the result, but itll work nonetheless
 
Removing your impacted wisdom teeth won't recess you. You're already recessed.
Yes it will. Teeth are the foundation of the jaw and removing them cause it to recess.
if u really want one there are a few places where u send in a mold of ur teeth, u pay like 600 and theyll send u one, but u have to be the one to put it in, and u have to know when to stop, its just the risk kinda outweighs the result, but itll work nonetheless
I’ll do anything. Ascend or die trying. Do you know any places that do this and are they online?
 
Yes it will. Teeth are the foundation of the jaw and removing them cause it to recess.
IT WONT CHANGE ANYTHING IF YOU REMOVE IMPACTED WISDOM TEETH. IF THEY'RE IMPACTED THEY DON'T STIMULATE THE JAWBONE. YOU WON'T EVEN LOSE BONE MASS YOU ABSOLUTE RETARD JUST REGURGITATING SHIT THAT YOU HEARD IN THE WRONG CONTEXT
 
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IF YOU NEED YOUR WISDOM TEETH EXTRACTED YOU'RE UNDERDEVELOPED AND PROBABLY NEED BIMAX ANYWAY
 
So I visited an orthodontist today and I already paid for my Invisalign. I told her that I also need a palate expander but she said I don’t need it. Then this foid says since I’m 17 I’ll only get 3 mm of expansion 🤣 . I already told her that I have trouble nose breathing at night but she said it’s not needed. I’m going to visit another dentist but I need some advice. Should I get an expander and what type should I get. Also how do I convince my parents that I need it?
Get multiple quotes. I had SEVERE crowding and a very narrow upper arch. The first place I went to just wanted to take like 5 teeth out. I started at 17 as well so my palate was mostly fused. Second place I went to only removed 2 (one of which wouldn't even descend and was floating somewhere in my skull, so I only got 1 actual tooth removed). They gave me a MARPE (plate with screwed drilled into the roof of your mouth with rod that slowly rips it apart). Sounds bad but it is pretty tame and was totally worth it. Never too late for expansion, that's a psyop, there are adult appliances they are just more complicated/painful/expensive
 
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Get multiple quotes. I had SEVERE crowding and a very narrow upper arch. The first place I went to just wanted to take like 5 teeth out. I started at 17 as well so my palate was mostly fused. Second place I went to only removed 2 (one of which wouldn't even descend and was floating somewhere in my skull, so I only got 1 actual tooth removed). They gave me a MARPE (plate with screwed drilled into the roof of your mouth with rod that slowly rips it apart). Sounds bad but it is pretty tame and was totally worth it. Never too late for expansion, that's a psyop, there are adult appliances they are just more complicated/painful/expensive
Yeah I’m going to 2 more orthodontists but I’m already getting my Invisalign at this current place so I figured it would be cheaper to get it here. But welp doesn’t seem like it.
 
Get multiple quotes. I had SEVERE crowding and a very narrow upper arch. The first place I went to just wanted to take like 5 teeth out. I started at 17 as well so my palate was mostly fused. Second place I went to only removed 2 (one of which wouldn't even descend and was floating somewhere in my skull, so I only got 1 actual tooth removed). They gave me a MARPE (plate with screwed drilled into the roof of your mouth with rod that slowly rips it apart). Sounds bad but it is pretty tame and was totally worth it. Never too late for expansion, that's a psyop, there are adult appliances they are just more complicated/painful/expensive
How much did the MARPE cost and about how much expansion did you get?
 
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How much did the MARPE cost and about how much expansion did you get? Just want to find different peoples averages
 
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How much did the MARPE cost and about how much expansion did you get? Just want to find different peoples averages
I don't know exactly how much it costed, but it was part of a plan with braces that costed around 7K

I didn't measure because I wasn't that deep into LM yet sadly, but it's really in your control. How the device works is there is a bar at the roof of your mouth, and the orthodontist gives you a special wrench to turn it. He'll tell you something like 1 turn a day for 30 days or whatever he decides, but you don't have to listen, if you want more expansion you can keep widening the bar and pushing your palate wider. I wouldn't recommend doing all the turns at once though, it makes you dizzy because of the pressure in your skull, if you decide to use it and go over the recommended amount either space it out (1 turn morning, midday, night) or do it for longer than he says. It's a linear increase in expansion though, so you can stop whenever you hit the target.
 

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