Need Help -- Trixmax vs. Genioplasty Only

[HumanTitanium]

I posted a thread a while ago, about my surgery plan which consisted of Trimax, Malar Implants, Upper Blepharoplasty, and Otoplasty.

I was told by most people that Trimax wasn't worth it in my case, which I totally understand considering the recession isn't too bad and genioplasty would provide enough from improvement from the side.

However, my reasoning for Trimax goes deeper. I have a noticeable amount of asymmetry (more than "asymmetry is normal" — multiple surgeons see this as a complicated case in terms of finding the correct midline) which double jaw surgery would help fix, and I also think it would help expand my soft tissue and create more facial angularity, which I lack due to my overall face shape considering I'm at ~10% body fat. No surgeon I've talked to has said that they think double jaw surgery wouldn't be worth it (not that surprising), but I'm preparing to do orthodontics before, and I had an orthodontist today try to me tell that there isn't that much room for advancement, and we discussed the recession not being super severe.

The thing is, I think a little advancement and asymmetry correction will provide subtle, but positive results for me and, in terms of effort and money, I'm willing to do it.

So my question is, given my motives and what I've mentioned, do you think trimax is the route to go? I'm worried if I only got genioplasty I may regret not going all in with double jaw surgery. However, if I got genioplasty, I would try to bring a more advanced and lengthened chin similar to @TransactionalLife2 life's genioplasty ascension (pictures of his before after in comments).

Here are my photos — please message privately if you need more images lol:

 

[HumanTitanium]

@TransactionalLife2 Before and after

 

[mysterycel]

What assymetry are you talking about? Your face is very well balanced on the sides, you have American boy next door halo, if anything all you need is a better haircut and you could go right to slaying.

 

[TransactionalLife2]

You do not need trimax

 

[TransactionalLife2]

People on this forum told me I needed bimax before my surgery and also that genio would be mistake, do not listen to most of the guys here

 

[yussimania]

People on this forum told me I needed bimax before my surgery and also that genio would be mistake, do not listen to most of the guys here

What's ur chin to philtrum ratio in your front profile now?

 

[TransactionalLife2]

What's ur chin to philtrum ratio in your front profile now?

As the swelling has gone down I think around 2.4 , idk I can't measure them properly

 

[yussimania]

As the swelling has gone down I think around 2.4 , idk I can't measure them properly
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Wow looks really good way better than the side profile

You only need some small tweaks like jaw filler to fix the JFA now and u will have a chad jaw

 

[.dunkbro]

Wow looks really good way better than the side profile

You only need some small tweaks like jaw filler to fix the JFA now and u will have a chad jaw

yo, mind helping me tell me what I need?

 

[yussimania]

yo, mind helping me tell me what I need?

DM me

 

[.dunkbro]

DM me

check pms

 

[TransactionalLife2]

Wow looks really good way better than the side profile

You only need some small tweaks like jaw filler to fix the JFA now and u will have a chad jaw

I need to lose weight first I'm a fat fuck

 

[geenk worg]

Genio alone would be perfectly fine from what i can see

 

[jon_chase89]

You don't need either, you just need your nose deprojected slightly

 

[monk321]

none lol , why would you want ugly step off like that guy just to increase projection of your chin of like 3mm max since your chin isn't recessed by any means. But if you're really dead set on it for the love of god don't do trimax it has like negative roi in your case.

 

[Animepilled]

dont need any surgeries

 

[HumanTitanium]

People on this forum told me I needed bimax before my surgery and also that genio would be mistake, do not listen to most of the guys here

When you consulted Pagnoni about genio did you eve ask if you should do bimax or genio only?

 

[TransactionalLife2]

When you consulted Pagnoni about genio did you eve ask if you should do bimax or genio only?

I did not , because me myself i knew i didnt needed bimax , Pag himself told me i need small movements

 

[HumanTitanium]

I did not , because me myself i knew i didnt needed bimax , Pag himself told me i need small movements

People on this forum told me I needed bimax before my surgery and also that genio would be mistake, do not listen to most of the guys here

Yeah that makes sense, i wouldn’t require much movement either but no suergon has been opposed to bimax. Its funny though because nobody on here thinks I need it

I guess maybe genio only

 

[HumanTitanium]

What assymetry are you talking about? Your face is very well balanced on the sides, you have American boy next door halo, if anything all you need is a better haircut and you could go right to slaying.

Yeah my hairline isn’t the greatest and it’s changed a bit from these pictures but, essentially my right side is a bit bigger (smiling also looks a bit strange).

On a seperate issue, I would be getting upper bleph to correct the excessive and uneven hooding I have with eyelids (which is probably my failo)

 

[TransactionalLife2]

Yeah that makes sense, i wouldn’t require much movement either but no suergon has been opposed to bimax. Its funny though because nobody on here thinks I need it

I guess maybe genio only

At max you need only slight genio like 3-4mm , thats my opion , best decision for you is to talk to multiple surgeons and take their opinions

 

[HumanTitanium]

At max you need only slight genio like 3-4mm , thats my opion , best decision for you is to talk to multiple surgeons and take their opinions

Yeah, that’s what I think I’ll will do at this point. It’s funny because yesterday orthodontist eyeballed about 3mm too. How many surgeons did you consult with and who other than pag?

 

[HumanTitanium]

You don't need either, you just need your nose deprojected slightly

Sad thing is bimax would help with that

 

[mysterycel]

Yeah my hairline isn’t the greatest and it’s changed a bit from these pictures but, essentially my right side is a bit bigger (smiling also looks a bit strange).

On a seperate issue, I would be getting upper bleph to correct the excessive and uneven hooding I have with eyelids (which is probably my failo)

Hairline asymmetry isn't an issue, in fact, you don't have any issues with your face from an aesthetics stand point. Maybe front facing is different. I don't know whose telling you get surgery, but your FWHR is above average, and any positive gains you'd receive from bimax are limited, because no surgeon would probably move you more than 3MM max, which is not going to change your projection as much as you think it will. Your better bet is to get a good haircut unironically, you have good facial harmony that the trade offs with surgery won't do nearly as much as you think. Maybe bleph or cantho, but you have a good homely look, I would really chill on trying to jump to the most extreme side of JS (trimax) for such small gains.

 

[vermicel]

I was told by most people that Trimax wasn't worth it in my case, which I totally understand considering the recession isn't too bad and genioplasty would provide enough from improvement from the side.

However, if I got genioplasty, I would try to bring a more advanced and lengthened chin similar to @ T @TransactionalLife2 life's genioplasty ascension

Even if you went for a trimax, the genio itself would definitely generate the biggest esthetic improvement, while the bimax's effects would probably be quite underwhelming. If your occlusion is fine and you're thinking in terms of risk to reward, then a plain genio would be the way to go.

Morph with genio only :

Morph with trimax :

Sure, the bimax would theoretically fix your lips' alignement, but apart from that, I doubt it would achieve anything truly significant on an esthetic level.

 

[HumanTitanium]

Even if you went for a trimax, the genio itself would definitely generate the biggest esthetic improvement, while the bimax's effects would probably be quite underwhelming. If your occlusion is fine and you're thinking in terms of risk to reward, then a plain genio would be the way to go.

Morph with genio only :

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Morph with trimax :

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Sure, the bimax would theoretically fix your lips' alignement, but apart from that, I doubt it would achieve anything truly significant on an esthetic level.

Thanks for providing the morphs, these look great and help visualize how the side would look a lot more. I agree with your points, I think genio does enough from the side, but I may just get bimax for the asymmetry I have and accept that the jaw advancement won’t yield as much roi. Difficult decision