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[lycoan]

Can any Christians try and convert me I want to believe I just can’t grasp it.

 

[acm]

@iblamexyz I'm not religious just help this brudda out

 

[iblamexyz]

Can any Christians try and convert me I want to believe I just can’t grasp it.

The job of the Christian is to evangelize.

We do not convert a single soul.
The Holy Spirit converts.

However, if you need any Christian questions answered, tag me and I’ll help you out.
Or I’ll ping some other users, and they’ll help you out.

@PrinceLuenLeoncur @takethewhitepill @subhuman1996

 

[iblamexyz]

@iblamexyz I'm not religious just help this brudda out

Mirin brah

 

[Datto29]

Can any Christians try and convert me I want to believe I just can’t grasp it.

what cant you grasp

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

The job of the Christian is to evangelize.

We do not convert a single soul.
The Holy Spirit converts.

However, if you need any Christian questions answered, tag me and I’ll help you out.
Or I’ll ping some other users, and they’ll help you out.

@PrinceLuenLeoncur @takethewhitepill @subhuman1996

Takethewhitepill is a low IQ prottie cuck who crumbled into dust when I challenged him. He will push people away.

Subhuman is good though but he isn’t great with theology or Philosophy he’s like your level at it.

Honestly I may be the only one that can provide a non retarded “MUH faith “ argument that won’t crumble. A shame tbh but we all start somewhere I used to be shit 2 years ago

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Can any Christians try and convert me I want to believe I just can’t grasp it.

For Simple answers ask the others here

For complicated stuff ask me in PMs (I’m the only one that can answer hard questions)

That’s about it

 

[Deleted member 297070]

Can any Christians try and convert me I want to believe I just can’t grasp it.

Jfl at literally trying to delude yourself into believing some bs just to cope
You can’t grasp it because you know intuitively that it makes no sense l

 

[iblamexyz]

Jfl at literally trying to delude yourself into believing some bs just to cope
You can’t grasp it because you know intuitively that it makes no sense l

this is a pure retarded argument

Do you know there are real living people who deny looks theory based on what ur saying

 

[iblamexyz]

Takethewhitepill is a low IQ prottie cuck who crumbled into dust when I challenged him. He will push people away.

Subhuman is good though but he isn’t great with theology or Philosophy he’s like your level at it.

Honestly I may be the only one that can provide a non retarded “MUH faith “ argument that won’t crumble. A shame tbh but we all start somewhere I used to be shit 2 years ago

Either way they are both gonna help him out with Christiany

Better to have someone on this forum than no one

 

[Deleted member 297070]

this is a pure retarded argument

Do you know there are real living people who deny looks theory based on what ur saying

Religion requires you to abandon the frameworks of evidence and logic and literally adopt magical thinking.

What I meant by what I said is that he can’t make himself believe because he knows that it does not make sense and is just trying to delude himself because it would be beneficial for him to do so.

You cannot prove religion to be correct, you can only convert someone by making them emotional enough to fall for it. You don’t see geniuses and scientists and educated people converting en masse. You do see people in prison or in times of famine or war converting- they need a cope. People are only religious because it was drilled into them as a child or because they were finally able to delude themselves into believing in times of stress and trauma- literal psychosis in a sense.
Any religious argument devolves into “well you can’t disprove it!” despite the burden of proof obviously falling on the ones making absurd claims at odds with everything we know to be true.

Lookism can be proved statistically and through facts and evidence, it is not comparable. People who deny lookism are actually very similar to the religious- they both deny a brutal reality in favour of an idealistic and fantastical cope, they both believe in the just world (sinners will go to hell and the righteous will get paradise in the afterlife!!!), they both ignore blatant scientific truths and they both demonise their opponents (heckin’ inkwells/ demonic sinners) rather than engaging with them in good faith

 

[Deleted member 297070]

Either way they are both gonna help him out with Christiany

Better to have someone on this forum than no one

If you have to be “helped” to “believe” then its obviously bullshit. Facts are things that can be proven methodically, understood and verified. Not “believed”
He wants you to prime him emotionally to be vunerable to fall for it, not to show him some magical proof of christianity’s truthfulness

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Either way they are both gonna help him out with Christiany

Better to have someone on this forum than no one

Yep I agree but brah the last thing you want is a moron giving dumb advice YGM?

Like I don’t mind you or subhuman speaking cos your not mentally ill idiots.

Tbh I dunno why these dudes can’t just go ask out priests for answers I mean if I wanted I could literally get my priest to answer these questions but I’ll admit im lucky that my priest is a super high IQ Anglo my other Greek priest isn’t that bright and I wouldn’t go to him with such questions ngl

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

If you have to be “helped” to “believe” then its obviously bullshit. Facts are things that can be proven methodically, understood and verified. Not “believed”
He wants you to prime him emotionally to be vunerable to fall for it, not to show him some magical proof of christianity’s truthfulness

That’s not what a “fact” even is

And besides your presupposing that the empirical rank system is the only one that gets you to truth which is funny as tha system presupposes things itself cannot account for empirically

Therefore your entire comment collapses with a little philosophical digging

This is GAYtheism a worldview that is devoid of any and all common sense and logic

You say you cannot prove RELGION to be correct let’s entertain that. You cannot prove it to be INCORRECT BY THE SAME STANDARDS. You can’t even give anybody a reason to belive in your drivel if your a GAYthiest then nothing matters everything “Just is” as you cannot get an ought from an is So evyehting you do say etc is purposeless so why even bother trying to tell others not to be religious when it just simply is? Worst part is you can’t even make an account for reality, logic, ethnics the list goes on your just a floating star dust irrelevant and insignificant raging on a blue rock meaninglessly like the little pathetic dust particle you claim to be

 

[iblamexyz]

If you have to be “helped” to “believe” then its obviously bullshit.

where have you got this theory from?

You do realise when it comes to anything you need help?

That includes making money if it’s online? or even when you’re taught evolution in school.

you don’t just walk into a science class and immediately start mixing potions together

you learn and you get help with learning

This is such a retarded way of articulating

Facts are things that can be proven methodically, understood and verified. Not “believed”

Christ being resurrected and born is a verified factor

He wants you to prime him emotionally to be vunerable to fall for it, not to show him some magical proof of christianity’s truthfulness

Christianity is ultimately true

If you just think it’s some sort fairytale, you clearly aren’t educated to speak on this topic

 

[iblamexyz]

Religion requires you to abandon the frameworks of evidence and logic and literally adopt magical thinking.

No? Genuinely, where are you getting these ideas from?

You do realise you sound super uneducated

What is with people thinking that we’re anti-science? We’re not against facts or science we use them in Christianity actually.

We’re actually anti-your science

 

[iblamexyz]

What I meant by what I said is that he can’t make himself believe because he knows that it does not make sense and is just trying to delude himself because it would be beneficial for him to do so.

You cannot prove religion to be correct, you can only convert someone by making them emotional enough to fall for it. You don’t see geniuses and scientists and educated people converting en masse. You do see people in prison or in times of famine or war converting- they need a cope. People are only religious because it was drilled into them as a child or because they were finally able to delude themselves into believing in times of stress and trauma- literal psychosis in a sense.
Any religious argument devolves into “well you can’t disprove it!” despite the burden of proof obviously falling on the ones making absurd claims at odds with everything we know to be true.

This is really awkward bro because, some of the smartest people alive who have ever lived have acknowledged the existence of God

Lookism can be proved statistically and through facts and evidence, it is not comparable. People who deny lookism are actually very similar to the religious- they both deny a brutal reality in favour of an idealistic and fantastical cope, they both believe in the just world (sinners will go to hell and the righteous will get paradise in the afterlife!!!), they both ignore blatant scientific truths and they both demonise their opponents (heckin’ inkwells/ demonic sinners) rather than engaging with them in good faith

So can Christianity?

What even is your point? You are yet to make an actual articulate, defence apart from just whining and saying I don’t believe in this

 

[Deleted member 297070]

This is really awkward bro because, some of the smartest people alive who have ever lived have acknowledged the existence of God

The vast majority of them purely because they lived during times where they HAD to believe or be outcasted from society, have their research defunded and theories discredited. Not to mention that they were all raised in heavily religious societies. Stupid argument

And jfl at saying christianity can be proven it absolutely cannot? Show me your “proof”. Not conjecture or silly statements like “you can’t disprove it!”. Something that undeniably proves it.

BP CAN be proven because there is clear empirical data. Religion cannot because it relies on impossible assertions (magical thinking) and idealistic cope (eternal life, just world) not data or provable evidence.

Not to mention that religious scripture has been manipulated and edited over the years to the point of being unrecognisable and that you people don’t even believe in half of the things written in that book of yours and just twist it to pretend its a metaphor or something.

Your christ being “resurrected” is not even near to being proven. Fucking witness reports from cult members (inconsistent ones at that jfl)? Jesus DID live (unlike many figures from the bible), and died, but there is no historical evidence for his resurrection.

You are simply a bluepilled coper, theism is cope by nature. I was raised religious btw I was not brought up with these values I came to them myself because unlike most christians I actually read the scripture they quoted and looked into my own questions about it.

I am an atheist because I concluded that there is NO logical evidence for the existence of any God, that there are clear holes and logical impossibilities with many stories in the bible (and they are NOT meant as metaphors, this idea is an entirely used by modern theists to resist scrutiny, most of history has undeniably considered everything including creationism to be real events). You have no defense other than saying “atheism bad!” and ad hominem.

Your point about purposelessness is literally proving my point. You are using religion to cope with the inherent purposelessness/meaninglesness of life (which is not a bad thing when you understand it), you chose to believe in divine purpose because its easier, not because its more true.

 

[iblamexyz]

The vast majority of them purely because they lived during times where they HAD to believe or be outcasted from society, have their research defunded and theories discredited. Not to mention that they were all raised in heavily religious societies. Stupid argument

And jfl at saying christianity can be proven it absolutely cannot? Show me your “proof”. Not conjecture or silly statements like “you can’t disprove it!”. Something that undeniably proves it.

BP CAN be proven because there is clear empirical data. Religion cannot because it relies on impossible assertions (magical thinking) and idealistic cope (eternal life, just world) not data or provable evidence.

Not to mention that religious scripture has been manipulated and edited over the years to the point of being unrecognisable and that you people don’t even believe in half of the things written in that book of yours and just twist it to pretend its a metaphor or something.

Your christ being “resurrected” is not even near to being proven. Fucking witness reports from cult members (inconsistent ones at that jfl)? Jesus DID live (unlike many figures from the bible), and died, but there is no historical evidence for his resurrection.

You are simply a bluepilled coper, theism is cope by nature. I was raised religious btw I was not brought up with these values I came to them myself because unlike most christians I actually read the scripture they quoted and looked into my own questions about it.

I am an atheist because I concluded that there is NO logical evidence for the existence of any God, that there are clear holes and logical impossibilities with many stories in the bible (and they are NOT meant as metaphors, this idea is an entirely used by modern theists to resist scrutiny, most of history has undeniably considered everything including creationism to be real events). You have no defense other than saying “atheism bad!” and ad hominem.

Your point about purposelessness is literally proving my point. You are using religion to cope with the inherent purposelessness/meaninglesness of life (which is not a bad thing when you understand it), you chose to believe in divine purpose because its easier, not because its more true.

It’s interesting you reply to me and not @PrinceLuenLeoncur

And for your information, there are countless of proof and evidence of Christianity being true

But sure, I’ll give you one from the top of my head

Every prophecy that was mentioned in the old Testament what’s fulfilled by Jesus in the New Testament

Since you claim to be a “man of truth”

The odds and the mathematical probability is almost 0% for a schizophrenic to do

JFL at calling me a bluepill coper when I fundamentally understand the bp more than you

 

[Deleted member 297070]

No? Genuinely, where are you getting these ideas from?

You do realise you sound super uneducated

What is with people thinking that we’re anti-science? We’re not against facts or science we use them in Christianity actually.

We’re actually anti-your science

You are anti science
You are:
- In opposition to all credible theories regarding the creation of the universe and the earth
- In opposition to basic physics (miracles)
- In opposition to much of known history (biblical ahistoricity)
- Believing something without proof because it makes you feel good

“Your science” THERE IS NO SUBJECTIVE TRUTH
Truth is objective. Theists say stupid shit like ‘MY truth” in their ignorance, it does not make it true

 

[Deleted member 297070]

It’s interesting you reply to me and not @PrinceLuenLeoncur

And for your information, there are countless of proof and evidence of Christianity being true

But sure, I’ll give you one from the top of my head

Every prophecy that was mentioned in the old Testament what’s fulfilled by Jesus in the New Testament

Since you claim to be a “man of truth”

The odds and the mathematical probability is almost 0% for a schizophrenic to do

JFL at calling me a bluepill coper when I fundamentally understand the bp more than you

I read yours first let me get to that

 

[Deleted member 297070]

It’s interesting you reply to me and not @PrinceLuenLeoncur

And for your information, there are countless of proof and evidence of Christianity being true

But sure, I’ll give you one from the top of my head

Every prophecy that was mentioned in the old Testament what’s fulfilled by Jesus in the New Testament

Since you claim to be a “man of truth”

The odds and the mathematical probability is almost 0% for a schizophrenic to do

JFL at calling me a bluepill coper when I fundamentally understand the bp more than you

You don’t understand the BP if you believe that subhumans are gonna get some glorious afterlife as penance for their suffering
To be blackpilled is to understand that there is no escape or reward for your suffering and that your life here is all you’re getting
The prophecies were vague and altered after the fact jfl if you think thats proof of anything

 

[iblamexyz]

You are anti science
You are:
- In opposition to all credible theories regarding the creation of the universe and the earth
- In opposition to basic physics (miracles)
- In opposition to much of known history (biblical ahistoricity)
- Believing something without proof because it makes you feel good

“Your science” THERE IS NO SUBJECTIVE TRUTH
Truth is objective. Theists say stupid shit like ‘MY truth” in their ignorance, it does not make it true

You just made assumptions without actually having a discussion

no wonder you can’t hold a proper conversation if you’re genuinely neurodivergent and you think you know it all

how about ask me stuff first before assuming iqlet

 

[iblamexyz]

You don’t understand the BP if you believe that subhumans are gonna get some glorious afterlife as penance for their suffering
To be blackpilled is to understand that there is no escape or reward for your suffering and that your life here is all you’re getting
The prophecies were vague and altered after the fact jfl if you think thats proof of anything

And you don’t understand the BP either that’s not the nature of the blackpill

You do realise that the afterlife isn’t for good people “muh I grew up religious”

The most water knowledge in christianity

Is that heaven isn’t for good people? It’s Jesus‘s home, you wouldn’t invite good people around your house would you? you would invite your friends.

 

[Deleted member 297070]

That’s not what a “fact” even is

And besides your presupposing that the empirical rank system is the only one that gets you to truth which is funny as tha system presupposes things itself cannot account for empirically

Therefore your entire comment collapses with a little philosophical digging

This is GAYtheism a worldview that is devoid of any and all common sense and logic

You say you cannot prove RELGION to be correct let’s entertain that. You cannot prove it to be INCORRECT BY THE SAME STANDARDS. You can’t even give anybody a reason to belive in your drivel if your a GAYthiest then nothing matters everything “Just is” as you cannot get an ought from an is So evyehting you do say etc is purposeless so why even bother trying to tell others not to be religious when it just simply is? Worst part is you can’t even make an account for reality, logic, ethnics the list goes on your just a floating star dust irrelevant and insignificant raging on a blue rock meaninglessly like the little pathetic dust particle you claim to be

Oh i did address half of this

Again your point on purposelessness says it all. You don’t think atheism is worth believing because it doesn’t help you cope.

This entire argument is meaningless drivel because you’re basically just saying “oh bro its true by different standards just believe broooo” and saying that you don’t like atheism because its an uncomfortable truth. Bluepill mindset.

The blackpill is not compatible with christianity

 

[Deleted member 297070]

You just made assumptions without actually having a discussion

no wonder you can’t hold a proper conversation if you’re genuinely neurodivergent and you think you know it all

how about ask me stuff first before assuming iqlet

I’m referring to your scripture. If you’re a christian you hold those values, if you don’t you arent a very good christian

 

[iblamexyz]

The blackpill is not compatible with christianity

You’re clearly uneducated on both to not be able to speak on either of them

 

[iblamexyz]

I’m referring to your scripture. If you’re a christian you hold those values, if you don’t you arent a very good christian

Chapter and verse, please?

You didn’t provide any scripture, you just went on some shizo rant about muh universe meh science

Without actually articulating any point

 

[Deleted member 297070]

You’re clearly uneducated on both to not be able to speak on either of them

Ad hominem
You follow a vibe based ideology and do not understand either

 

[iblamexyz]

Ad hominem
You follow a vibe based ideology and do not understand either

You are yet to articulate an actual point, but just make assumptions

 

[Deleted member 297070]

Chapter and verse, please?

You didn’t provide any scripture, you just went on some shizo rant about muh universe meh science

Without actually articulating any point

I’m not quoting your own goddamn book at 10am in the morning but
Genesis for creation
Literally every miracle in the bible for physical impossibilities (miracles are impossible by nature you just claim god intervenes to break physics or something)
The bible contains a couple of vaguely historical stories alongside others that clearly aren’t particularly in the old testament (e.g jewish enslavement in egypt and exodus)

 

[Deleted member 297070]

You are yet to articulate an actual point, but just make assumptions

There is a clear written framework that governs your belief I can safely assume that you as a christian follow it and assume from there, it isn’t a flexible ideology

 

[iblamexyz]

I’m not quoting your own goddamn book at 10am in the morning but
Genesis for creation
Literally every miracle in the bible for physical impossibilities (miracles are impossible by nature you just claim god intervenes to break physics or something)
The bible contains a couple of vaguely historical stories alongside others that clearly aren’t particularly in the old testament (e.g jewish enslavement in egypt and exodus)

So you just want to make points without evidence to back them up?

So if this was a conversation about Looks theory

Would you be able to provide me studies?

 

[iblamexyz]

There is a clear written framework that governs your belief I can safely assume that you as a christian follow it and assume from there, it isn’t a flexible ideology

That’s the same we’ve almost any ideology

Including lookism, there are a fine line of rules you must follow and understand

 

[Deleted member 297070]

So you just want to make points without evidence to back them up?

So if this was a conversation about Looks theory

Would you be able to provide me studies?

Icl i’ll argue with you properly in a couple hours but I gotta go in a sec

But in general I don’t like focusing the bible as a source in religious discussion anyways because the theists always ends up just using it as a source of truth and arguing based on what the bible says is true rather than what is actually true

 

[WayneBraaaah]

Can any Christians try and convert me I want to believe I just can’t grasp it.

If you give 1000 shekels to me, then - yes

 

[iblamexyz]

Icl i’ll argue with you properly in a couple hours but I gotta go in a sec

I don’t argue I teach

But in general I don’t like focusing the bible as a source in religious discussion anyways because the theists always ends up just using it as a source of truth and arguing based on what the bible says is true rather than what is actually true

So in other words, you just like making points without having evidence to back them up?

So ironically, whatever you say is ultimately the truth which is what ur attacking Christ for