meltmylungs_
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Your eyeballs are ALWAYS anterior to your infraorbitals, and if the orbital vector ONLY accounted for them, no one in the world would even have a neutral vector, and even if they did, it would be deformed. Therefore, whether you have a NOV, Neutral OV, or POV is ENTIRELY determined by your under-eye support.
From this, it's easy to explain why recessed people can have a neutral orbital vector, while some with good forward growth have a negative one. Examples are few, of course, but Cillian Murphy's serve as a prime example:
Another conclusion: the orbital vector does depend on forward projection, but only indirectly, since with good forward growth, you have a MORE chance of having good fat deposits under your eyes. But this doesn't change the fact that you can have good deposits even with poor growth.
Another fact: with maxillary recession, the orbitals DO NOT RETRACT. You can ask the GPT chat, and they'll tell you that the only segment that sinks during recession is the LOWER SEGMENT OF THE MAXILLA:
And this is corrected with Le Fort 1; there's NO NEED to interact with the infraorbitals.
The orbitals PHYSICALLY cannot sink, as their position is STABLE relative to the skull, regardless of any type of recession. Therefore, I repeat, you can EASILY correct your orbital vector by grafting fat into the infraorbital cavity, and it will be anatomically CORRECT.
For your orbital vector, this NEVER OVER.
Your eyeballs are ALWAYS anterior to your infraorbitals, and if the orbital vector ONLY accounted for them, no one in the world would even have a neutral vector, and even if they did, it would be deformed. Therefore, whether you have a NOV, Neutral OV, or POV is ENTIRELY determined by your under-eye support.
From this, it's easy to explain why recessed people can have a neutral orbital vector, while some with good forward growth have a negative one. Examples are few, of course, but Cillian Murphy's serve as a prime example:
Another conclusion: the orbital vector does depend on forward projection, but only indirectly, since with good forward growth, you have a MORE chance of having good fat deposits under your eyes. But this doesn't change the fact that you can have good deposits even with poor growth.
Another fact: with maxillary recession, the orbitals DO NOT RETRACT. You can ask the GPT chat, and they'll tell you that the only segment that sinks during recession is the LOWER SEGMENT OF THE MAXILLA:
And this is corrected with Le Fort 1; there's NO NEED to interact with the infraorbitals.
The orbitals PHYSICALLY cannot sink, as their position is STABLE relative to the skull, regardless of any type of recession. Therefore, I repeat, you can EASILY correct your orbital vector by grafting fat into the infraorbital cavity, and it will be anatomically CORRECT.
For your orbital vector, this NEVER OVER.
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