never go to the gym more than twice a week

[Deleted member 23558]

and never do more than 6 reps per set. also not too much volume. trust me you will build more muscle this way ad you wotn be fatigued all the time. this applicable to natties only.

 

[Deleted member 21735]

trust me you will build more muscl

 

[Deleted member 19994]

Gym is not for incels like I.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Gym is not for incels like I.

damn u back

 

[Sanguinius]

gym is psy-op, never go gym

 

[Sub0]

and never do more than 6 reps per set. also not too much volume. trust me you will build more muscle this way ad you wotn be fatigued all the time. this applicable to natties only.

Two days back to back or big gap?

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Two days back to back or big gap?

2 days a week with 4 days gap

 

[Deleted member 18582]

Based

 

[Sub0]

2 days a week with 4 days gap

What's your plan

 

[Deleted member 22124]

You need like 10 sets a week at least for maximum growth (per muscle group). Frequent training is better too than crammed volume. If you're feeling lazy then you can do something like 1 set everyday. It's better than nothing and it makes you feel better just moving your ass.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

You need like 10 sets a week at least for maximum growth (per muscle group). Frequent training is better too than crammed volume. If you're feeling lazy then you can do something like 1 set everyday. It's better than nothing and it makes you feel better just moving your ass.

Mike mentzer figured out all the basic principles of training. Volume training is cope only roided ppl should do that. Muscle only grows when stimulated to the maximum by training to failure done this way the ideal is two workouts per week and maybe three if you are really genetic specimen. The rest of the days is there to cut do some light cardio and maybe hit the parts you didn’t hit in the day You trained like some harmsytings and abs.

 

[Sub0]

Mike mentzer figured out all the basic principles of training. Volume training is cope only roided ppl should do that. Muscle only grows when stimulated to the maximum by training to failure done this way the ideal is two workouts per week and maybe three if you are really genetic specimen. The rest of the days is there to cut do some light cardio and maybe hit the parts you didn’t hit in the day You trained like some harmsytings and abs.

Interesting, you motivated me to go to gym, I'm gonna join the nearest gym tomorrow

 

[Sub0]

@thecel thoughts?

 

[Sub0]

I need a 3 day plan

 

[thecel]

@thecel thoughts?

This is utter moronic advice.

Non-beginner natties need lots of stimulus to force growth. And copers here tell people that the key to pushing natty growth is to train less and do fuck all for frequency and volume. Have fun hitting plateaus.

 

[thecel]

Mike mentzer figured out all the basic principles of training. Volume training is cope only roided ppl should do that. Muscle only grows when stimulated to the maximum by training to failure done this way the ideal is two workouts per week and maybe three if you are really genetic specimen. The rest of the days is there to cut do some light cardio and maybe hit the parts you didn’t hit in the day You trained like some harmsytings and abs.

Training to failure is the default. Why do people think of failure as some golden powerup that causes magical amounts of adaptation with low volume and low frequency? I train to failure as standard. I rarely ever not train to failure. And I do medium volume. I do medium volume because I don’t care a lot about musclemaxing. If I did care, I’d do high volume.

People should stop coping with “high volume = take it easy and slack off” and “train to failure = barely do anything”.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

This is utter moronic advice.

Non-beginner natties need lots of stimulus to force growth. And copers here tell people that the key to pushing natty growth is to train less and do fuck all for frequency and volume. Have fun hitting plateaus.

i lifted 60 kg x 12 bench and 20 kg ohp dumbell each x 8 after 6 months of no training in one week with this method and you?

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Training to failure is the default. Why do people think of failure as some golden powerup that causes magical amounts of adaptation with low volume and low frequency? I train to failure as standard. I rarely ever not train to failure. And I do medium volume.

People should stop coping with “high volume = take it easy and slack off” and “train to failure = barely do anything”.

youre the one presenting the false equivalence, my original statement was do less volume AND train to high intensity not less volume = high intensity.

 

[thecel]

i lifted 60 kg x 12 bench and 20 kg ohp dumbell each x 8 after 6 months of no training in one week with this method and you?

I have to put in more work than you. Nothing for me to be ashamed of. We aren’t dealt the same cards in life.

 

[Deleted member 23391]

Mike mentzer figured out all the basic principles of training. Volume training is cope only roided ppl should do that. Muscle only grows when stimulated to the maximum by training to failure done this way the ideal is two workouts per week and maybe three if you are really genetic specimen. The rest of the days is there to cut do some light cardio and maybe hit the parts you didn’t hit in the day You trained like some harmsytings and abs.

If you're not roided, you shouldn't even step foot in a gym in the first place.

 

[thecel]

youre the one presenting the false equivalence, my original statement was do less volume AND train to high intensity not less volume = high intensity.

Failure is medium intensity. People who call failure intense are copers.

Train with medium volume and medium intensity, which is to failure.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

I have to put in more work than you. Nothing for me to be ashamed of. We aren’t dealt the same cards in life.

i dont mean as comparision for instance when i trained 4-5 days a week it took me 6 months to hit 60 kg x 10 bench then i stopped lifting for 6 months lost all my muscle due to being put in an asylum for two months and forcfed ssris antipsychotics and benzos and i got back from the asylum and trained for just one week with high intensity and already beat my PEAK lifts in my prime of my short lifting career.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Failure is medium intensity. People who call failure intense are copers.

Train with medium volume and medium intensity, which is to failure.

if you do high reps aka 12 reps the first 8 reps are basically cardio with no use whatsoever in muscle building. why do high reps when small rep do the trick? also keep in mind natties dont recover as fast as roiders and overtraining is a very overlooked possibility. the people who say muh youre just being lazy are people like goggins who have already been overtraining for a while and lost all their hair by 30.

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

Based and mike mentzer pilled


Honestly going to try the High Intensity Menthod after this macrocyle. (ome more meso)

I really like going to failure with a battle mindset like Mike Mentzer alluded to in his book.

I train 6x week currently with a specialization for side delts.

 

[thecel]

i dont mean as comparision for instance when i trained 4-5 days a week it took me 6 months to hit 60 kg x 10 bench then i stopped lifting for 6 months lost all my muscle due to being put in an asylum for two months and forcfed ssris antipsychotics and benzos and i got back from the asylum and trained for just one week with high intensity and already beat my PEAK lifts in my prime of my short lifting career.

What was your intensity when you trained 4–5 days per week?

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

if you do high reps aka 12 reps the first 8 reps are basically cardio with no use whatsoever in muscle building. why do high reps when small rep do the trick? also keep in mind natties dont recover as fast as roiders and overtraining is a very overlooked possibility. the people who say muh youre just being lazy are people like goggins who have already been overtraining for a while and lost all their hair by 30.

Do you think myoreps overcome the cardio thesis?

But yeah what's the point of doing myoreps when you can go all out to failure with fewer training sessions.

I do like training a lot too so I dont mind being in the gym 6x week, sometimes twice a day (splitting workouts).

 

[thecel]

if you do high reps aka 12 reps the first 8 reps are basically cardio with no use whatsoever in muscle building. why do high reps when small rep do the trick?

I think the same. The logic is sound. Nevertheless, people’s experiences beg to differ. Hamza said high reps get him more gains.

also keep in mind natties dont recover as fast as roiders and overtraining is a very overlooked possibility. the people who say muh youre just being lazy are people like goggins who have already been overtraining for a while and lost all their hair by 30.

Is 15 weekly sets to failure overtraining?

 

[Deleted member 23558]

What was your intensity when you trained 4–5 days per week?

overtrained. lifted to failure on eveery workout did leg and back days and upper body days seperate. did 12 reps each set and around 12 sets in total every workout. now i do chest and lats each workout 2 times a week and will step it up to 3 when i want some traps and legs growth. mike mentzer heuristic: never workout until you FEEL like working out. basically the exact opp of goggins and mentzer is basically the 1980 olympias winner if he wasnt cheated by arnold. i now do 9 sets per workout and take ample rest time. before my workouts used to take 2 hours and i didnt even rest much before sets.

 

[thecel]

never workout until you FEEL like working out.

For 90% of people, this means “never work out”.

Most people aren’t gym bros. Most people aren’t powerlifters and bodybuilders. Gym rats gotta understand that the average dude doesn’t really want to exercise.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

For 90% of people, this means “never work out”.

Most people aren’t gym bros. Most people aren’t powerlifters and bodybuilders. Gym rats gotta understand that the average dude doesn’t really want to exercise.

sure but theres still a difference betwen " fuck i cant hit the gym my whole body is in sores but i gotta hit it anyway" to "hmm today MIGHT be alright day to workout" thats what mike means.

 

[Sub0]

sure but theres still a difference betwen " fuck i cant hit the gym my whole body is in sores but i gotta hit it anyway" to "hmm today MIGHT be alright day to workout" thats what mike means.

Ngl thinking about going only 2 days is better for mental health and more motivating than anything else

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Ngl thinking about going only 2 days is better for mental health and more motivating than anything else

yea but you have to hit failure on your sets and go lower reps so be sure to warm up or you might get injured. 6 sets is a good place to aim for and if you hit more its no worries but if you aim for 12 sometimes youll hit 14 reps and thats too much basically doing cardio w only the last 3 reps stimulating muscle growth.

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

For 90% of people, this means “never work out”.

Most people aren’t gym bros. Most people aren’t powerlifters and bodybuilders. Gym rats gotta understand that the average dude doesn’t really want to exercise.

I do feel like working out every single day.

On Sundays when the gym is closed, Im restless and need to go for a walk.

Even after working a morning seasion, by afternoon or evening I really am itching to work out again.

I do 2x per days sometimes for 2 weeks by the end of the meso, then chill the fuck out, deload and then when Im feeling recovered, Im back at it.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

I do feel like working out every single day.

On Sundays when the gym is closed, Im restless and need to go for a walk.

Even after working a morning seasion, by afternoon or evening I really am itching to work out again.

I do 2x per days sometimes for 2 weeks by the end of the meso, then chill the fuck out, deload and then when Im feeling recovered, Im back at it.

how many reps per set do you do

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

For 90% of people, this means “never work out”.

Most people aren’t gym bros. Most people aren’t powerlifters and bodybuilders. Gym rats gotta understand that the average dude doesn’t really want to exercise.

sure but theres still a difference betwen " fuck i cant hit the gym my whole body is in sores but i gotta hit it anyway" to "hmm today MIGHT be alright day to workout" thats what mike means.

Yeah thecel have a read on Mike Mentzers book.

Whatever training philosophy you currently like and work on you, you will still respect the ideology behind his book.

Its written like an Ayn Rand novel.

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

how many reps per set do you do

Depending on the exercise and also heavier lower rep sets in yhe beginning of the week and lighter higher rep sets Towards the end.

(Beginning of meso - End)

Chest - (5-10) (10-20)
Shoulder (10-15) (10-20)(15-25)
Smaller groups like biceps, forearms, tris, neck (8-15)(10-20)

I just dont train back or legs ij the current meso as theyre already in very good shape so 2 sets a week max for them in the (12-25) range

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

@BrahminBoss

And yeah you probably guessed but forgot to mention I'm not going to failure every week on a 6x per week training cycle.

I start the meso with around 3-4 Reps In Reserve and then end the meso with 0 ( ie complete failure). Im on the 5th week now at around 1-2 RIR.

I'll run this meso for the next two more weeks with the last week made of forced reps.

TOTAL ANNIHILATION!!!

I've tried going to failure every day every week continuously.

It's not sustainable from a hypertrophy standpoint imo and failure only work sessions can only be feasible for hypertrophy through Mikes's method. Ie as much rest given as the amount of intensity put in.