/NEW SERIES!/ HIDDEN HISTORY - EP1 - Grand tartary and the old world/pre-reset civilization

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uncovering the real Tartaria

introduction:
There are many misconceptions about tartaria, it is often talked about as this one big civilzation as those of lemuria and atlantis, but it was infact a very real nation that had a defined border and history.
We first have to understand what Tartaria really meant, it was a big realm often synonoumus with what we now call the mongol khan altough they were two different terms intentionally conflated to bring confusion and further hide the history.


People and regions of tartaria

It contained many people of different languages customs and people such as schytians (which was the original name for tartars) , chinese, mongols, cossacks, kazakhs, turks, moghuls, russians, siberians, tatars, and many other steppe and central asian tribes. Some of the names of turkic tartars were avars, bulgars and some extent khazars. Many peoples like Lombards Huns goths vandals suevi were also considered to come from schytians which lived in the steppe and and like celts migrated into europe creating the modern germanic nations.
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Chinese tartary was called Cathay and reffered to northern china, manchuria and parts of russia and chinese people were called cathayans.
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Siberia consisting of regions such as Bargu, Russian tartary (muscovite), Magog, Tenduc, name coming from the town of Sibir which was also found by Tartars.
The region was inhabited by numerous polar tribes like Ostiacs, Lapps, kamtschadales, monguls and manchew tartars.
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The mongul and manchew tartars are of a copper colour and in general short and ugly. These extend from the Irtysh to kamtschatka under the various names of Kalmucs, Buriats monguls Manchews and Tongusians. The polar race are of a small stature, deformed and tawny with black coarse hair. The Samoides live in northwestern siberia ate the coasts and live in very barren land surviving by reindeer and hunting.The kamtshcadales like the others also have summer cabins which are generally about 12 feet in hight and live chiefly by fishing
https://archive.org/details/acomprehensives00willgoog/page/416/mode/2up?q=asiatic+russia

the european part where people like the cossacks and crimeans tatars inhabited was called little tartary:

La piccola tartaria little tartary ukraine crimea krasnodar zatta 1783 map T2J2R8

- THE LITTLE TARTARIA divided IN IT'S TERRITORIES

Tartaria desserta (also called independent tartaria) reffered to the barren lands of tibet, eastern china and central asia which were inhabited by uzbeks, kirgis, tajiks afghans, tibetans.
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The hordes that had ravaged europe and the middle east together with the mongol empire were always called tartars just like the various peoples of india are all called indians or like the term native americans. . Yet you will no longer find the term tartaria anymore even though it existed in many old history books.

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Where did tartaria originate from?

They are said to come from japheth's son (japheth being the father of indo-european people) Magog who's descendant moved eastward and populated tartary while his brother Gomer was the ancestors of such people like celts, ashkenaz (germanics) Carpathians, which populated europe,
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if anyone is interested into reading further about the origins of modern races: https://www.historyofisrael.com/sons-of-noah.html#<b><u>Japheth - son of Noah</b></u>

The tartars were feared fighters (speaking of turkic tartars) hired as mercenaries by byzantine and arab emperors. Some of the names of turkic tartars were avars, bulgars, uyghurs, gökturks, oghuzes, Cumans, Pechenegs, Kyrgyzs and khazars.

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Many peoples like Lombards Huns goths vandals suevi were also considered to come from schytians which lived in the steppe and and like celts migrated into europe creating the modern germanic nations.
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The tartar conquests:
the story of tartaria and mongol empire are practically the same, we'll start with a short overview of the unification of the mongol tribes and what started tartary.
At that time, the Mongolian Plateau was dominated by five major tribal alliances: the Keraites, Khamag Mongols, Naiman, Mergid, and Tatars. To maintain dominance, the Jin dynasty employed a strategy of fostering conflict among these groups—particularly between the Mongols and Tatars—to prevent a unified threat.
By 1147, the Jin modified their approach, entering into a peace agreement with the Mongols and abandoning numerous fortifications.

In the 13th century, as the Mongol Empire emerged, Central Asia’s typically dry, cold steppe environment experienced an unusual period of warmth and rainfall—the mildest and wettest in over a thousand years. This climatic shift led to a surge in livestock populations, especially war horses, bolstering the military capacity that fueled Mongol expansion.

The Mongol incursions into Central Asia took place after the unification of various Mongol and Turkic tribes on the Mongolian Plateau in 1206.
Genghis Khan initiated expansion into Central Asia in 1209 by dispatching forces to chase down adversaries who had sought refuge there and posed a threat to the stability of his nascent empire. Some regional powers, such as the Uyghur kingdom of Qocho and prominent leaders among the Karluks, chose to submit peacefully to Mongol rule, even forging dynastic alliances through intermarriage with the imperial family. By 1218, Mongol forces had taken control of all of Xinjiang, and by 1221, they had conquered the entire territory once held by the Khwarazmian Empire. The momentum continued into Eastern Europe when, in 1236, the Mongols defeated the eastern section of Cumania and advanced further westward.

Between the 1220s and 1240s, the Mongols expanded their empire by conquering several Turkic and Iranian states, including Volga Bulgaria, Cumania, and Alania, as well as numerous principalities in Eastern Europe. This expansion set the stage for their push into Central Europe. They launched a dual-front assault on the fragmented Polish territories, leading to the Battle of Legnica on April 9, 1241, and simultaneously invaded the Kingdom of Hungary, culminating in the Battle of Mohi on April 11, 1241.

Mongol forces also advanced into the Caucasus, targeting the Kingdom of Georgia along with the Chechen, Ingush, and Circassian peoples—though full control over the Circassians eluded them. Further campaigns were carried out in Southeastern Europe, affecting regions such as Bulgaria, Croatia, and the Latin Empire. These operations were strategically devised by the renowned Mongol general Subutai (1175–1248), and commanded in the field by Batu Khan (circa 1207–1255) and Kadan (d. circa 1261), both grandsons of Genghis Khan. Their efforts brought large portions of Eastern Europe under the control of the Mongol Golden Horde.

The severity of the Mongol threat compelled European leaders, who were often embroiled in internal rivalries, to temporarily set aside their conflicts and unite against the common enemy. However, these truces were short-lived, as hostilities among European factions resumed after the Mongol withdrawal. Even after the initial conquests, Mongol raids and punitive expeditions continued intermittently throughout the remainder of the 13th century.
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Even after Ghengis khan died and the mongol empire supposedly split up all the invidiual khans and hordes were still refered as a unified Tartary.
after the empire fell it became divided into many principalities yet so that the title and Majesty of the Empire remained always to the great sham - https://archive.org/details/relationsofmostf00bote/page/226/mode/2up (pages 227 and onwards talking about tartaria after the mongol empires split)
All of the broken away kingdoms were still under a unified tartary, note that the book was written between 1540-1617 which means that the "mongol" empire lasted far longer than modern historians say. This once again also confirms what other old history books describe which is a huge unified empire continuosly posing as a threat to other nations forcing tribute and having a big influence in politics such as intermarrying with several european families.

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so why did they stop?
there are many theories about why the mongol conquests stopped one which is very interesting is that the vatican gathered up tribute together with the other european nations and made a deal with the khan to stop invading further. others are that he died of illness or "old age" even though he was 40-50 another is that he was poisoned which lacks very little evidence.
in the end the tartars had a big influence in europe and the middle east one example being the khazarians adopting islam christianity and judaism and later in a similiar fashion to the moors (future thread on moors will be coming). One example is the theory that khazars became the Cathars in southern france.
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could king I of france also be a khazar?:feelshah:


Tartarian connections to northamerica and old world inhabitants

Now after going through Tartaria thouroughly we go to north america which was also invaded by mongoloids in the same fashion
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Now it's here where modern history seemingly starts to have been intentionally edited. Mainstream history simple says that there were no other people but that the native americans coming from siberia were the first there which is clearly false if you dig deep, Also often ignoring the polynesian migration which there is much evidence for and which even earlier historians agreed on. https://www.reuters.com/article/wor...ian-and-south-american-peoples-idUSKBN2492RR/ https://www.kpbs.org/news/science-t...ace-the-migration-of-his-polynesian-ancestors



The different waves of migration and builders

archaeologically we can see that great builders thrived in North America one of the more spectacular
Builders around a 1000 BC were those who built poverty point in modern Louisiana


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after this over a millennium after this about two 250 ad another mound building culture arose known as the Hopewell culture that created a different set of Mounds what's spectacular about this group was that the Mounds they built the structures they built the Earth works they built were astronomically significant as in aligned with a moon
they were geometrically precise

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around the same time another group of mound builders produced structures such as Cahokia around modern St Louis, cahokia's fluorescence was in the 8100s and 1200s it was the greatest city north of the Rio Grand in the pre-colombian era it was as big as London in its day so all this together shows us that there were at least three settlings of North America along with the migrations of haplogroup q and c-M130 (origin of first migration haven't been found)
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The tale of tartarrux, king of Quivira? (tartar rex, tartar king?)

As the story goes, Coronado was not your regular explorer. He was a conquistador, and was looking for gold. Actually he was looking for the seven cities of gold which were also known as the seven cities of cibola. The cities were Hawikuh, Halona, Matsaki, Quivira, Kiakima, Cibola, and Kwakina. However, when Coronado finally arrived at Cibola in 1540, he discovered that the stories were unfounded and that there were, in fact, no treasures as the friar had described - only adobe towns. While among the towns, Coronado heard an additional rumor from a native he called "the Turk" that there was a city with plenty of gold called Quiviralocated on the other side of the great plains. However, when at last he reached this place (variously conjectured to be in modern Kansas, Nebraska or Missouri), he found little more than straw-thatched villages.

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There they had news of Axa and Quivira: where, it was said, “was a king, whose name was Tartarrax, with a long beard, hoary-headed, and rich; which was girded with a Bracamart; which prayed upon a pair of beads; which worshipped a cross of gold and image of a woman the queen of heaven.
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Native americans were also thought to descend from israelites



There is a strong resemblance between the northern and inde- pendent Tartar, and the tribes of the North American Indians, but not of the South American. Besides this reason, there are othersfor believing our aborigines of North America were descendedfrom the ancient Scythians, and came to this country from the eastern part of Asia. This view by no means invalidates the opinion that some tribes of the Indians of North America are descendants of the Israelites, because the Scythians, under this particular name, existed longbefore that branch of the family of Shem, called Israelites; who,after they had been carried away by Salmanasser, the Assyrianking, about 700 years B. C, went northward, as stated by Esdras,(see his second book, thirteenth chapter, from verse 40 to verse45, inclusive,) through a part of Independent Tartary. Duringthis journey, which carried them among the Tartars, now so call- ed, but were anciently the Scythians, and probably became amalgamated with them. This was the more easily effected, on accountof the agreement of complexion and common origin. If this maybe supposed, we perceive at once, how the North American In- dians are in possession of both Scythian and Jewish practices. https://ia902303.us.archive.org/12/items/americanantiquit00p/americanantiquit00p.pdf
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(i will make a future thread on this topic since there are several egyptian and hebrew inscriptions and remains found in northamerica and a possible migration from africa aswell preceding the transatlantic slavetrade)

Historians say that it was simply a myth but the conquistadors were really insistent that these mega cities of great wealth did exist, as usual there is something missing.









The people pre-dating the native americans

It was believed that the entire western coast of the americas were inhabited by malays in numerous numbers and that there were also expeditions to america far after the early mongoloid migration.
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Professor Samuel Mitchell formerly of Colombia College had concluded that two main groups of people once dominated the Americas, the tartars of Northern Asia and the australAsians of the Polynesian Islands furthermore they fought one another for many years culminating in great battles of extermination in what later became Upstate New York. This New York theory has much in common with the Book of Mormon.

a rumor of a Portuguese Jew that went around of Antonio montesinos who claimed that he had been LED of godone to discover a holy people
a tribe of ancient Jews in the mountains of NOA Granada in 1641 basing his claim on similarities of sacramental Rights customs and languages between this group and those of ancient Jews.
many people of the day turned to the respected Rabbi manessa to confirm or reject him sensing this opportunity to advance the cause of his people manessa Ben Israel published in 1650 his famous
hope of Israel in which he strongly argued in favor of the Lost tribes in America claiming that they had mingled with tartaric or Asian tribes in ancient cythia before coming to America presenting remarkably little hard or new evidence he nevertheless capitalized upon the renewed controversy to show that God's ancient people the Jews had indeed been scattered and dispersed to the four quarters of the earth
another man known as Antonio de lancha writing in the early 17th century also posited that the Indians had descended from the tartars of Eastern Asia likewise the great English Observer Edward brewood Advanced the austan tradition arguing for a tartarian origination via Alaska since most Indians frequented the West coasts of the Americas other men during the same period such as David's ice Berger John Heckle welder Casper wiar Pierre deonco and Benjamin Smith Barton all argued for the tartaric origin of the Indians for the bearing straight Theory and for a common original language.

in 1795 Professor Samuel Mitchell of Columbia College returned to his lifelong interest in the origins of the Indians and he began to formulate his three-fold interpretation of American Indian Origins and history number one that the three races of malaise tartars and Scandinavians contributed to make up the American population that the tartars eventually overwhelmed and destroyed the other two races over a fairly long period of time and finally that the final battles of extermination were fought in upstate Western New York not too far from the south of Lake Ontario Mitchell began teaching college classes in 1816 saying that both North and South America had been formerly populated fundamentally by two great races not only the hyperborean or inhabitants of the north but also the australasian or inhabitants of the South the former tartars and the Latin Malay and Polynesians

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he went on to ask what has become of these austral Asians and answered they have probably been overcome by the more warlike and ferocious hordes that entered our hemisphere from the northeast of Asia these tartars of the higher latitudes have issued from the great Hive of Nations and desolated in the course of their migrations the southern tribes of America as they have done to those of Asia and Europe the greater part of the present American natives are the tartar stock the descendants of the Hardy Warriors who destroyed the weaker malays that preceded them Mitchell's work was accepted by Uzziah priest.

although providing for the inclusion of vestages of the Lost tribes in parts of ancient America via an ancient landbridge with Africa. priest believe the tartars in hun-like fashion completely destroyed the more southernly people who left behind some 3,000 burial mounds and fortifications in present day Ohio Indiana and Illinois the skeletons found in our Mounds never belonged to a people like our Indians he asserted their foreheads were low cheekbones rather High we think we ascertain the inhabitants who have been white like the Europeans calling the more civilized people the Aries he believed they were so exterminated by the tartars or cians that but one member of the nation a warrior remained -a nation now extinct american indian origin theories as of 1820 neal a maxwells institute


The various peoples of old world america
as it respects some of the ancient Nations who may have found their way hither as into America we perceive a strong probability that not only Asiatic Nations very soon after the flood but also all along the different areas of time different races of men Polynesians Malays australasians Phoenicians Egyptians Greeks Romans Israelites tartars Scandinavians Danes Norwegians Welsh and Scottish have colonized different parts of the continent and Uzziah priest also believed that before the flood America was the country of Noah and where the ark was erected.
(i will be making a thourogh thread the possiblity of israel being in northamerica along with archeological evidence of Hebrew, egyptian and possible trade routes with phoenicians)



The welsh
The voyage of saint brendan
the story of St. Brendan, a 6th-century Irish monk, and his legendary voyage westward to the “Isle of Bliss” – a paradise-like land described as a promise to the pious after the Last Judgment. St. Brendan and his companions sail in a simple boat, encountering several strange and mythological events along the way – they encounter strange islands, giant sheep, mysterious birds, magical fruits, and even enormous sea monsters. They also receive divine visitations and guidance. The story also explores interpretations of the places St. Brendan and his companions encountered, with some suggesting that the journey may have taken them as far as Iceland, perhaps even parts of North America. Some of the places sound very tropical full of fruit and clear water like that of the caribbean. They travelled for 7 years and found themself cicrling around many times. There is also evidence that they may have been the first in iceland https://www.medievalists.net/2015/0...een-first-to-settle-iceland-researcher-finds/

There is also another story of the first European to see America was the Welsh prince Madoc in 1170. he had supposedly fled his country during a succession crisis with a troop of colonists and sailed west. He eventually landed near the Mississipi river and founded a colony, which later mingled with the Native Americans.


The vikings and possibly knights templars
Now it's already accepted that the vikings arrived but there is also a big possibility they brought the knights templars with them maybe as a way to prepare the way for a future voyages specifically that of Columbus so that the Crown could further extend their banking empire. Practically all christian nations in one form or another relied or had relations with the knights templars The knights templars also knew of the stories of travellers such as Marco Polo thanks to the wealthy people of venice that they had connections too which that also dealt with banking and trade. Even the vikings that had been christianised were involved with the crusades like the King Sirgus I that sent soldiers to the crusade which also knew about Leif Eriksons travels to northamerica and had outposts in Greenland, also trading with the native americans. The vikings started depicting their vessels with a cross like the knights templars after becoming christians. Alongside all the runes there are also several other artifacts found with crosses swastikas snakes, hand, sun which link back to all other mystic beliefs. It is also theorised that Scottland which was involved with the knights templars through Henry Sinclair and the vikings used the norwegians to hide away the templars great treasures. There is also a venetian nobleman named Nicolo Zeno that wrote a story in 1558 about his family sailing in 1390 with the help of a norwegian map image: https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_by_nicolo_zeno_1558.jpg. It is also theorised that it details a voyage of Henry Sinclair where they travel through scandinavia and later to Estotiland and Deogeolm where they say the land is full with cannibals and strange animals. There are several towers one being the newport tower which is precisely built and aligned that illuminates an egg shaped stone on the winter solstice by allowing a perfect amount of light to pass trhough a window at a certain time of the day. It's speculated that it was some kind of marker leading to a templar settlement. more evidence is the flag of the mi'kmaq people
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even more evidence is the overton stone in Nova Scotia which depicts a templar cross and a mi'kmaq symbol most likely as a sign of peace https://trailpeak.com/trails/mysterious-overton-stone-near-yarmouth-ns-12207. on oak islan there are also several symbols like the cross once again and also the all seeing eye, also a french lead cross from the 1200-1400s also having similiar symbols to a templar cave in england https://gretchencornwall.com/2018/05/09/oak-island-royston-domme/. The runes found in america are different to those in europe and seem to be some kind of coded language one of the runic letters is a hooked x which is only found in america except of the roslin chapel which was coincidentally built by henry sinclairs grandson, there's also ingravings of new world plants like corn which werent introduced to europe yet.



Blacks
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most of us already know about the olmecs and the strikingly similiar figures they share with africans but there is much more than that
Polish craniologist Andrzej Wiercinski claimed that some Olmecs may have had African origins, based on skulls from Tlatilco and Cerro de las Mesas. Using craniometric comparisons with samples from Poland, Mongolia, and Uganda, he found that about 14% of Tlatilco and 4.5% of Cerro de las Mesas skulls showed "Black" traits. He linked these features to Olmec sculptures, particularly the colossal heads, which he associated with a "Dongolan" type. Wiercinski proposed that Mesoamerican populations were a mix of Arctic, Pacific, Chinese Shang, and even sporadic transatlantic influences, including African traits.

another most significant fact is that the populations of black people (apparently negros of africa) existed on the isthmus of Panama when the spanish arrived - The Theosophist, a Magazine of Oriental Philosophy, Art, Literature & Occultism, October 1899


In appearance these indians (referring to specficic tribe) differ entirely from the chinooks and other coast tribes of Oregon being taller and darker they have quite heavy mustaches and beards on the chin but not much on the cheecks, and they almost all suffer to grow. Several were noticed with gray hair and beards. They are an ugly and brutish race many with negro profiles, and some of the old men resembling chinese figures - information respecting the history condition anjd prospects of the indian tribes of the united states
the women more fair, or less dark than the men are still more ugly. Their hair or rather a mane, thick bushy and coarse - information respecting the history condition anjd prospects of the indian tribes of the united states

Pampa branch, colour, deep olive brown, or marron; form, herculean; forehead, vaulted; face large, flat, oblong; nose, short; nostrils, large; mouth, wide; lips, large; eyes, horizontal; physiognomy, cold often savage - the natural histories of the varities of man.

Interestingly california is also connected to a novel based on a black queen both of which derive from the word caliph
in the story is a Black warrior queen who rules the mythical Island of California, inhabited only by Black women. She leads an army and trained griffins to aid a Muslim siege on Constantinople but is defeated, converts to Christianity, and returns home.

America also has a lot of old world moorish style architecture, the mainstream excuse is that there was simply a style that for whatever reason suddenly regained popularity in the 1900s but could it in reality be the remains of a past civilization (next thread will be going through this)

Many native americans were forced to be classififed into races such as latino mulatto or black which in the case of black natives would have stripped them from there heritage and simply cathegorized them with the later arrivals of blacks through the slave trade. The atlantic ocean was also often in maps called oceanus aethiopicus (ethiopian ocean, ethiopians refered to all non saharan blacks).

Startling and certain to be contraversial, a gigantic inscription sculpted in a character style typical of 3rd Century B.C. Phoenician has been located on a remote mountain plateau near Palpa a small township some 20 kms north east of Nasca, in Peru. Discovered whilst researching surface texture changes to geoglyphic features within the Nasca Lines complex , the inscription may help to explain why certain pre-Incaic statues are of bearded humans and others negroid in appearance. Why puquios and sub-terranean drainage systems resemble those of Iran, but most importantly how primitive cultures of early Precolumbian Peru might have acquired the sophisticated geometry and surveying ability to construct the Nasca Lines archaeological monument. https://www.nascodex.com/My Research/Peru/Inscription/

Epigraphic Evidence of Axumites in South America:
There is also epigraphic evidence that supports the influence of Semitic speaking Ethiopians in South America – an inscription at the town of Palpa, some 20 kms (12.43 miles) north east of Nazca, Peru. It is an ancient pattern of lines that can be read using the Ge’ez language of Ethiopia. There is also epigraphic evidence for Axumites in Cuenca, Ecuador. Father Carlo Crespi collected numerous inscribed artifacts that local people claimed came from underground hiding places. Among these artifacts are 1) a gold sheet with a picture of a pyramid and Ethiopian letters at the foot of the pyramid; 2) a stone tablet with Ethiopian writing placed below three animals; and another with a stone pyramid with an elephant and sun symbol at the top of the pyramid and Ethiopian characters placed within the pyramid. Elephants and lions are rarely seen in Egyptian art, but they are common in Meroitic and Axumite art. These tablets refer to various aspects of the life of a farmer-soldier (and traveler). https://www.ancient-origins.net/his...ultural-clues-and-artifacts-left-early-021513

Spanish explorers reported finding African communities in the southern U.S. and Florida. Researchers like Arnaiz-Villena suggest Sub-Saharan Africans (SSA) were among the first Americans, and Spanish chronicles mention SSA populations in the Caribbean and Mexico before European contact. Anthropologists have also identified SSA skeletal remains at Pre-Columbian sites. Some ancient Maya may have been of SSA origin, as evidence of sickle cell anemia has been found in their remains. Quatrefages recorded Black populations migrating into the American Southwest and Southern California. In 1775, Father Francisco Garces encountered a Black community living beside the Zuni in New Mexico, speaking a different language.
Explorer Álvar Núñez Cabeza de Vaca described both Mongoloid and Negro tribes in the Four Corners region, including one called Mendica—possibly linked to the Mandinka people of the Mali Empire. This, along with African inscriptions, ideograms, and cliff dwellings found in the American Southwest, supports the theory that Malians, possibly led by Mansa Abubakari, reached the Americas around 1310 AD. Many settled in South America and the Southwest, leaving signs and writings in the Malinke-Bambara language of Mali's royal court. https://www.ancient-origins.net/his...ners-region-united-states-12th-century-006223


aryans and giants
as you might know there are plentiful with tales of pale redheaded cannibalistic giants that ravaged the native people to later get hunted down. Even the gods one being Quetzalcoatl which is why they thought their gods returned when the spanish came. They along with snake beings and gods are also told of helping the humans build up civilization giving them knowledge such maths, geometry, physics and secrets to ascension, i will be naming some of the american serpent gods.
Quetzalcoatl (Aztec) Quetzalcoatl, the “Feathered Serpent,” is one of the most important Aztec gods, symbolizing wind, learning, fertility, and rebirth. Often associated with civilization and the morning star (Venus), he was believed to have brought knowledge and order to humanity.

Kukulkan (Maya) Kukulkan is the Maya equivalent of Quetzalcoatl, also a feathered serpent deity representing rain, wind, creation, and rebirth. Major temples like El Castillo in Chichén Itzá were built in his honor and aligned with equinox events.

Amaru (Inca/Andean) Amaru is a mythical two-headed serpent from Inca and Andean traditions. It symbolizes underworld forces, transformation, and connection between worlds—sky, earth, and the underworld.

Awanyu (Tewa Puebloan) Awanyu is a horned water serpent found in Puebloan rock art, symbolizing water, storms, and lightning. It is considered a guardian of water sources and a sacred force of nature.
Great Horned Serpent (Pan-North American) A powerful serpent spirit appearing in many Indigenous North American traditions (e.g., Iroquois, Cherokee, Sioux). It is often a supernatural being of water, storms, and chaos, sometimes associated with danger or balance depending on the tribe.

Coatlicue (Aztec) Coatlicue, meaning “She of the Serpent Skirt,” is an earth goddess who gave birth to gods including Huitzilopochtli. She represents fertility, death, and rebirth, and her iconography includes snakes for limbs and skirt.

Unktehi (or Unktehila) (Lakota/Dakota) A giant water serpent in Sioux mythology. Unktehi is associated with floods, water, and transformation, often seen as a force to be respected or feared.

Tie-Snake (Southeastern tribes like Choctaw/Creek) A dangerous water serpent believed to pull people into rivers or swamps. It’s usually seen as malevolent and a bringer of sickness or misfortune.

Pitaskog Possibly a variation or misspelling; there is limited documentation on this name. Clarification or tribal origin would help identify it accurately.

Snake-Woman (Hopi and other tribes) In Hopi lore, a snake woman or snake maiden is often associated with rain, fertility, and initiation rituals. Snake symbolism is commonly tied to life cycles, weather, and transformation in Hopi ceremonies.

Giants:

The Si-Te-Cah were a legendary red-haired tribe from Northern Paiute oral history, said to be cannibals and possibly giants. The Paiutes claimed to have defeated them in a final battle at Lovelock cave in Nevada. In 1911, miners discovered artifacts and mummified remains in the cave, many buried under guano. Although the cave had been mined since 1911, miners did not notify authorities until 1912. The miners destroyed many of the artifacts, but archaeologists were still able to retrieve 10,000 Northern Paiute artifacts from the cave. Items included tule deck decoys, nets, a pair of sandals, and baskets, several dating back over 2,000 years. https://nypost.com/2024/04/04/us-ne...oHgfgYMyviBWRzF3hx_aem_QIgSxcJQkDLw58O8Iv1xNg

Ralph Arthur Glidden excavated as many as 800 ancientburial sites primarily those of the Native tongva American Indians amongst his discoveries for what he claimed to be the bones of a race of giants which he described as being European in appearance rather than Native American with Fair hair and blue eyes skeletons which ranged in height from seven to nine feet were claimed by Glidden to be the prehistoric ancestors of the Native Americans whose Graves he'd been turning over. https://www.thearchaeologist.org/bl...oric-mysteries-on-californias-channel-islands
In 1895, a burial mound containing 20 skeletons “twice as large as those of present-day people” was discovered near Toledo, Ohio. The skeletons were reportedly all arranged in a sitting position and facing east. In 1965, a skeleton measuring 8-feet 9-inches in length was reportedly discovered in Holly Creek, Kentucky, with a skull “30 inches in circumference.” https://thecatalinaislander.com/land-of-the-giants/

In 1911, S.C. Winkler uncovered ancient skeletons and artifacts while leveling land on a former Native American mound in Ohio. Many remains crumbled during excavation, but items like beads, pottery, and massive bones being those of giants were recovered. The site likely belonged to the Mound Builders, a civilization over 1,000 years old. Early rumors of murder were dismissed as the remains were clearly ancient. https://lawrencecountyohio.com/stories/native-american/among-the-skeletons-lawrence-county-ohio/

there is a Peruvian tradition about giant cannibalistic humanoids that arrived by raft from across the sea. The giants were described as enormously tall and built, dug deep wells for water, ate dozens of locals, and engaged in acts of sodomy before being destroyed by divine punishment involving fire and an angel. Some physical evidence like large bones were said to have been found supporting the story of giant inhabitants in the past.

In 1895, the Smithsonian bought the "San Diego Giant" mummy for $500 (over $14,000 today), later calling it a hoax made of gelatin—13 years after purchase. This delay, despite expert inspections, raises questions. Notably, Aleš Hrdlička joined the Smithsonian in 1903 and strongly opposed giant-related claims, possibly influencing the mummy's dismissal. High-ranking officials like Thomas Wilson and W.J. McGee were involved in acquiring it, suggesting the Smithsonian took it seriously. A similar 8'5" giant mummy appeared in Spiro Mounds, Oklahoma, was briefly displayed, then vanished.

In Steelville, Missouri, 16-year-old Billy Harman unearthed an 8-foot skeleton while searching for arrowheads in Puckett's Cave. The remains, later examined by Dr. R.C. Parker, drew crowds and stirred speculation. The skeleton, likely from a slender man with a small skull (only 20 inches in circumference), showed signs of burial in a kneeling position, possibly indicating a ritual. Artifacts found with the bones—including arrowheads, stone tools, and a possible saber-toothed tiger fang—added to the mystery. Locals debated whether he was an Osage chief or part of an older, extinct race of giant cave dwellers. Smithsonian anthropologist Dr. Aleš Hrdlička was contacted for expert analysis. The cave’s long history of human use, along with past Smithsonian findings of cannibalism among ancient Ozark cave tribes, suggests this “giant” may have been a member of a forgotten prehistoric people—perhaps over 1,000 years old. https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bulger/genealogy/giant.htm

“Thirty-six men much larger than the women, and so well made that it was a pleasure to look at them. They put us in such perturbation, however, that we would much rather have been in our ships, than have found ourselves with such people. They carried immense bows and arrows, and large-headed clubs, and talked among themselves in a tone which led us to think they were deliberating about attacking us.” ~Account by Amerigo Vespucci describing the weaponry of the Giants of Aruba whom he encountered one morning in 1499.

Curaçao was first discovered in 1499 by Alonso de Ojeda, Christopher Columbus' lieutenant.
The Spanish named the island "Isla de los Gigantes" (Island of the Giants) because of the impressive size of the indigenous population, the Arawaks.

“One day we suddenly saw a naked man of giant stature on the shore of the port, dancing, singing, and throwing dust on his head … He was so tall that we reached only to his waist, and he was well proportioned. His face was large and painted red all over while about his eyes he was painted yellow; and he had two hearts painted on the middle of his cheeks. His scanty hair was painted white. He was dressed in the skins of animals skillfully sewn together.” This was Europeans’ first encounter with the people Magellan called the Patagons — the Patagonian giants, as the world came to know them. The tall tales of later expeditions made the Patagonians even taller — ten feet or more. Sir Francis Drake saw them on his voyage through the strait.

quotation from spanish conquistador Pedro Pizarro (1571) about peru:
"the ruling class in the kingdom of Peru was fair-skinned with fair hair about the color of ripe wheat. Most of the great lords and ladies looked like white spaniards. In that country i met an indian women with her child, both so fair-skinned that they were hardly distinguishable from, fair white men. Their countrymen called them 'children of the gods,."



the chinese

there is much evidence that the chinese definetly knew about america and interacted with the people there altough the extent is unknown

the Chinese geographers or mythologists teach at a distance of 10,000 Mi to the east there is a land over 3,000 mi in width now the land referred to us must be North America and we know that North America reaches 3,000 mi in width from the Pacific to the Atlantic and the Chinese accounts further call our Eastern realm a fuang or Mulberry a mberry land is there say the Chinese the mulbery land is here say the Mexicans like the Mexicans the Chinese sages declare that there is an enormous tree the fu or helpful sang tree in the Eastern Mulberry land 3,000 Mi wide as just remarked the Chinese call their enormous tree a sang and the Mexicans call their tree a beb both terms standing for the mulbury https://archive.org/details/ancientchineseac00mcal/page/2/mode/2up

Over 82 petroglyphs identified by Ruskamp across sites in the U.S. and Canada feature ancient Chinese scripts. He believes the mixed script styles date to shortly after 1046 BC, during a transitional writing period in China—well before Columbus’s 1492 arrival. While dating petroglyphs is difficult, the script's syntax and style match what Chinese explorers may have used around 2,500 years ago. https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...rica-before-columbus/articleshow/48042123.cms

Before Europeans arrived, it's believed horses weren't in the Americas. However, pre-Columbian art in Brazil and Peru shows horse-like figures, possibly even Chinese cavalry, suggesting the Chinese may have reached the Americas earlier. Gavin Menzies supports this with Indigenous legends of Chinese contact and leadership. Physical evidence cited includes Chinese coins in the Pacific Northwest, beads in a Nez Perce garment, and jade artifacts found off Florida and California.

In the next part i will be dwelling into the old word civilization and technology prior to the reset and show how the world was far more advanced and already fully globalized.

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