New UK immigrantion policy changes

[Jason Voorhees]

UK to Tighten Immigration Rules: Highlights from the 2025 White Paper

Key UK immigration rule changes for 2025, including UK visa reforms, salary threshold increases and extended residence for ILR.

immigrationbarrister.co.uk

TLDR-

-From 5 years to 10 years stay to become UK citizen.

-Stricter English Rules

-Students finishing university in UK. Only 18 months instead of the usual 24 months to find a job

-People can't hire workers from abroad. Hospitals and nursing homes can't hire care workers anymore(most controversial)

-Easier to deport criminals

Economists have argued that these changes are bad for the UK and that starmer is succumbing to pressure from Nigel Farage

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

How the mighty have fallen. Stupidest country by a mile

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Cleetus Cornfield @SecularIslamist @heightmaxxing @optimisticzoomer @Foreverbrad

 

[Foreverbrad]

And yet the shitskin unemployable welfare leeching boat people still cannot be turned away.

We are just depriving ourselves of the useful ones.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

And yet the shitskin unemployable welfare leeching boat people still cannot be turned away.

We are just depriving ourselves of the useful ones.

That is the main criticism of these policies.

 

[Foreverbrad]

That is the main criticism of these policies.

I would also look to enforce a gender ratio balance on immigration but that will never happen. 99% of immigrants are males making incel island even more incel.

Rwanda plan was legit to be honest.

 

[aloooeJIEEES]

UK to Tighten Immigration Rules: Highlights from the 2025 White Paper

Key UK immigration rule changes for 2025, including UK visa reforms, salary threshold increases and extended residence for ILR.

immigrationbarrister.co.uk

TLDR-

-From 5 years to 10 years stay to become UK citizen.

-Stricter English Rules

-Students finishing university in UK. Only 18 months instead of the usual 24 months to find a job

-People can't hire workers from abroad. Hospitals and nursing homes can't hire care workers anymore(most controversial)

-Easier to deport criminals

Economists have argued that these changes are bad for the UK and that starmer is succumbing to pressure from Nigel Farage

Too late

 

[Chadeep]

Is India affected by this after FTA

 

[Jason Voorhees]

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Is India affected by this after FTA

Think yes. FTA is nothing special. It's is just specific visa allocations and social security exemption. This will affect Indian immigrants still

 

[Popstar867]

UK to Tighten Immigration Rules: Highlights from the 2025 White Paper

Key UK immigration rule changes for 2025, including UK visa reforms, salary threshold increases and extended residence for ILR.

immigrationbarrister.co.uk

TLDR-

-From 5 years to 10 years stay to become UK citizen.

-Stricter English Rules

-Students finishing university in UK. Only 18 months instead of the usual 24 months to find a job

-People can't hire workers from abroad. Hospitals and nursing homes can't hire care workers anymore(most controversial)

-Easier to deport criminals

Economists have argued that these changes are bad for the UK and that starmer is succumbing to pressure from Nigel Farage

I thought there was no chance they’re implementing this ? I’ve heard the other parties need to agree first

 

[Deleted member 113294]

Yes this is all very interesting.

The labour government is submitting to the 'semi-far right'.

One thing you didn't mention is they also want people to be able to speak English which I think is appropriate. The amount of people I come across where they can only speak in one word sentences is surprising.

I dont know about the the social care policy tbh, that might fuck the NHS up a bit.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Yes this is all very interesting.

The labour government is submitting to the 'semi-far right'.

One thing you didn't mention is they also want people to be able to speak English which I think is appropriate. The amount of people I come across where they can only speak in one word sentences is surprising.

I dont know about the the social care policy tbh, that might fuck the NHS up a bit.

Care worker ban is seen as disastrous for already short-staffed sectors like the NHS and care homes.

 

[It'snotover]

United Kingdomstan is already a meme country, and this doesn’t sound good at all for their economy. Guess that's a W for countries like Germanistan, most likely europeans will move there instead of uk when it comes to getting a job in a different country

 

[Foreverbrad]

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Think yes. FTA is nothing special. It's is just specific visa allocations and social security exemption. This will affect Indian immigrants still

Exemption from an overall 23% social security tax seems pretty damn significant. Pajeet costs a company 23% less to pay him the same after tax wage.

 

[Snicket]

How the mighty have fallen. Stupidest country by a mile

They need to have strict work visas like Middle Eastern countries enjoy.
Once low wage immigrants work visas expire, they go back to their native countries.
Just remove right to remain in the UK indefinitely after x number of years.

 

[Snicket]

Care worker ban is seen as disastrous for already short-staffed sectors like the NHS and care homes.

Short term work visas with no right to remain in the country indefinitely is the obvious solution for low wage workers.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

They need to have strict work visas like Middle Eastern countries enjoy.
Once low wage immigrants work visas expire, they go back to their native countries.
Just remove right to remain in the UK indefinitely after x number of years.

Short term work visas with no right to remain in the country indefinitely is the obvious solution for low wage workers.

The UK relies on migrant workers in key sectors like care, agriculture, and hospitality-not just for short-term tasks. Also the U.M's economy isnt like middle east oil money. It won't work.

 

[widdi]

I would also look to enforce a gender ratio balance on immigration but that will never happen. 99% of immigrants are males making incel island even more incel.

Rwanda plan was legit to be honest.

Immigrants should be 100% women. Allowing men = allowing invaders and competition

 

[Snicket]

The UK relies on migrant workers in key sectors like care, agriculture, and hospitality-not just for short-term tasks. Also the U.M's economy isnt like middle east oil money. It won't work.

No Jason. I'm not arguing for a total cut-off of migrant workers.
I'm advocating for short term work visas with no dependents allowed.

The issue is that low wage migrants become a net burden on the state if they are allowed to live in the country indefinitely.
They should leave before this happens:

Note: this graph doesn't even take into account dependents, who will almost certainly be a burden on the state.

All low wage migrants should be under 40 years old, no dependents and operate on short term visas for this reason.
These workers are low skilled and their jobs have a high turnover; they could easily be replaced with an effective short-term visa system.

 

[Debetro]

 

[Xangsane]

UK to Tighten Immigration Rules: Highlights from the 2025 White Paper

Key UK immigration rule changes for 2025, including UK visa reforms, salary threshold increases and extended residence for ILR.

immigrationbarrister.co.uk

TLDR-

-From 5 years to 10 years stay to become UK citizen.

-Stricter English Rules

-Students finishing university in UK. Only 18 months instead of the usual 24 months to find a job

-People can't hire workers from abroad. Hospitals and nursing homes can't hire care workers anymore(most controversial)

-Easier to deport criminals

Economists have argued that these changes are bad for the UK and that starmer is succumbing to pressure from Nigel Farage

Over for brown Pajeets

 

[Snicket]

To be fair to Starmer, he said he would comply with the ICJ arrest warrant against Netanyahu.

 

[ScientificLooksmax]

bruh theyre already colonized. its not gonna make a difference lol

 

[Greypiller]

UK to Tighten Immigration Rules: Highlights from the 2025 White Paper

Key UK immigration rule changes for 2025, including UK visa reforms, salary threshold increases and extended residence for ILR.

immigrationbarrister.co.uk

TLDR-

-From 5 years to 10 years stay to become UK citizen.

-Stricter English Rules

-Students finishing university in UK. Only 18 months instead of the usual 24 months to find a job

-People can't hire workers from abroad. Hospitals and nursing homes can't hire care workers anymore(most controversial)

-Easier to deport criminals

Economists have argued that these changes are bad for the UK and that starmer is succumbing to pressure from Nigel Farage

We might be back

 

[lastofus123]

The UK relies on migrant workers in key sectors like care, agriculture, and hospitality-not just for short-term tasks.

they dont, thats just a meme argument leftists use, nhs is majority white and agriculture? are you seriously suggesting ilelgals do farming in the uk??

 

[Jason Voorhees]

they dont, thats just a meme argument leftists use, nhs is majority white and agriculture? are you seriously suggesting ilelgals do farming in the uk??

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They are majority white but 22.9% of workers in England were born outside the UK. That is not a small number and in 2022 alone over 73,000 skilled worker visas were issued specifically for health and care roles. In agriculture, over 70,000 seasonal migrant workers are needed annually with over 99% coming from abroad, primarily through legal Seasonal Worker visas-not "illegals"

 

[Snicket]

They are majority white but 22.9% of workers in England were born outside the UK. That is not a small number and in 2022 alone over 73,000 skilled worker visas were issued specifically for health and care roles. In agriculture, over 70,000 seasonal migrant workers are needed annually with over 99% coming from abroad, primarily through legal Seasonal Worker visas-not "illegals"

That’s the issue Jason. There are two dumb extremes to this argument.

“We need unlimited migrant workers” vs “no migrants allowed”. There’s a more realistic, nuanced centre position that is drowned out.

Like mine.

 

[lastofus123]

They are majority white but 22.9% of workers in England were born outside the UK. That is not a small number and in 2022 alone over 73,000 skilled worker visas were issued specifically for health and care roles.

it can be replaced, doesnt justify the insane wave of immigration the uk is facing

In agriculture, over 70,000 seasonal migrant workers are needed annually with over 99% coming from abroad, primarily through legal Seasonal Worker visas-not "illegals"

most of those are eastern europeans so other whites. not the illegal kind that we all know Europe is infested with

 

[Jason Voorhees]

That’s the issue Jason. There are two dumb extremes to this argument.

“We need unlimited migrant workers” vs “no migrants allowed”. There’s a more realistic, nuanced centre position that is drowned out.

Like mine.

That is what those experts arguing about also. The real problem isn't immigration itself, but how it's managed and discussed.

 

[Snicket]

The real problem isn't immigration itself, but how it's managed and discussed.

Exactly. The problem up until now is that European immigration has not been managed properly.

At least I provided some kind of solution and backed it up with actual data.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

it can be replaced, doesnt justify the insane wave of immigration the uk is facing

most of those are eastern europeans so other whites. not the illegal kind that we all know Europe is infested with

You are outdated with your stats.
EU migration did previously make up a large portion but post-Brexit policy changes shifted migration sources, with non-EU migration now accounting for the majority of new arrivals, from countries like India, Nigeria, and the Philippines and all these legal immigrants.The majority of work-related migration to the UK is actually legal and highly regulated but there are not enough people and it is not replaceable. These are not my words but what Jonathan Portes a famous economist from UK said

 

[anthony111553]

dnr let me guess more ethnics

 

[Jason Voorhees]

dnr let me guess more ethnics

Less

 

[anthony111553]

Less

cope

 

[Snicket]

You are outdated with your stats.
EU migration did previously make up a large portion but post-Brexit policy changes shifted migration sources, with non-EU migration now accounting for the majority of new arrivals, from countries like India, Nigeria, and the Philippines and all these legal immigrants.The majority of work-related migration to the UK is actually legal and highly regulated but there are not enough people and it is not replaceable. These are not my words but what Jonathan Portes a famous economist from UK said

Legal migration is not highly regulated.
Boris Johnson’s own highly skilled workers permit included florists.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Legal migration is not highly regulated.
Boris Johnson’s own highly skilled workers permit included florists.

Yes early versions of the post-Brexit points-based immigration system included shir -like florists or ballet dancers qualifying under "skilled worker" .bur, the overall system is still regulated, and those roles didn't flood the UK with low-skill labor. The criteria involve salary thresholds, sponsorship by licensed employers and job shortages-all of which are strictly monitored by the Home Office.

More importantly, the majority of visas issued have gone to health, care, and IT workers, not florists. In 2022-2023, over 50% of all skilled worker visas were for health and care roles alone.

 

[Snicket]

Yes early versions of the post-Brexit points-based immigration system included shir -like florists or ballet dancers qualifying under "skilled worker" .bur, the overall system is still regulated, and those roles didn't flood the UK with low-skill labor.

Yes, I agree the immigration system is regulated - just not highly regulated.
Nearly 60 per cent of all foreign nationals working in the UK are employed in jobs that are not highly-skilled.

More importantly, the majority of visas issued have gone to health, care, and IT workers, not florists. In 2022-2023, over 50% of all skilled worker visas were for health and care roles alone.

I agree that there is lots of important low skilled work but it needs to be much more carefully managed with short term work visas instead.

Indefinite right to remain in the UK should be scrapped for low wage migrants and they should not be allowed to bring dependents with them. They must also foot the bill for their own healthcare. The NHS should be for British nationals, not foreigners.

 

[browncurrycel]

UK to Tighten Immigration Rules: Highlights from the 2025 White Paper

Key UK immigration rule changes for 2025, including UK visa reforms, salary threshold increases and extended residence for ILR.

immigrationbarrister.co.uk

TLDR-

-From 5 years to 10 years stay to become UK citizen.

-Stricter English Rules

-Students finishing university in UK. Only 18 months instead of the usual 24 months to find a job

-People can't hire workers from abroad. Hospitals and nursing homes can't hire care workers anymore(most controversial)

-Easier to deport criminals

Economists have argued that these changes are bad for the UK and that starmer is succumbing to pressure from Nigel Farage

One less country for pajeets to take over

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Yes, I agree the immigration system is regulated - just not highly regulated.
Nearly 60 per cent of all foreign nationals working in the UK are employed in jobs that are not highly-skilled.

I agree that there is lots of important low skilled work but it needs to be much more carefully managed with short term work visas instead.

Indefinite right to remain in the UK should be scrapped for low wage migrants and they should not be allowed to bring dependents with them. They must also foot the bill for their own healthcare. The NHS should be for British nationals, not foreigners.

I remember reading some study for france iirc. They used to issue work permit visas something like guest worker Visa like these in 70s and 80s but it was found long term that denying security or family life to immigrants created a class of temporary workers with no investment in the country.

This lead to reduced productivity. In turn resulted in a lot of crime and secukded banlieues in france Also immigrants already pay for NHS with Taxes and Immigration Health Surcharge(IHS).

I think the solution it to just tailor immigration by sector demand instead of controlling it with visas like this.

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

Too late. You reap what you sow

 

[Snicket]

I remember reading some study for france iirc. They used to issue work permit visas like these in 70s and 8ps but it was found lomg teem thag security or family life to immigrants created a class of temporary workers with no investment in the country.

The issue is that low wage workers are never an investment in the country. They are a net burden- at least in the context of the UK - post 40 years old - and that's without considering non working family members.

This lead to reduced productivity. In turn resulted in a lot of crime and secukded banlieue in france Also immigrants already pay for NHS with Taxes and Immigration Health Surcharge(IHS).

If they commit crimes, they should be deported.

I think the solution it to just tailor immigration by sector demand instead of controlling it with visas like this.

I agree with this, regardless. Bespoke rules are always better than over-arching ones that don't take into account unique challenges and issues.
Still some over-arching lessons can be applied. Low wage workers that stay in the country are a net fiscal burden, regardless of the sector.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

The issue is that low wage workers are never an investment in the country. They are a net burden- at least in the context of the UK - post 40 years old - and that's without considering non working family members.

If they commit crimes, they should be deported.

I agree with this, regardless. Bespoke rules are always better than over-arching ones that don't take into account unique challenges and issues.
Still some over-arching lessons can be applied. Low wage workers that stay in the country are a net fiscal burden, regardless of the sector.

The issue is that low wage workers are never an investment in the country. They are a net burden- at least in the context of the UK - post 40 years old - and that's without considering non working family members.

If they commit crimes, they should be deported.

I agree with this, regardless. Bespoke rules are always better than over-arching ones that don't take into account unique challenges and issues.
Still some over-arching lessons can be applied. Low wage workers that stay in the country are a net fiscal burden, regardless of the sector.

I think it is unfair to label them as useless. The low-wage migrants are net fiscal burdens after-40s this is true but it also applies to British locals who become a net fiscal burdens after 60 but ppl don't frame native-born populations as "non-investments"

 

[Snicket]

The low-wage migrants are net fiscal burdens after-40s this is true but it also applies to British locals who become a net fiscal burdens after 60 but ppl don't frame native-born populations as "non-investments"

Yes but the British state is for British people by definition. We should apply a different standard for immigrants in my view.

Also, according to my graph, the average UK local becomes a fiscal burden after 80, which is around the average life expectancy anyway.

Immigration should be a framed as an investment for British people.

 

[SecularIslamist]

-People can't hire workers from abroad. Hospitals and nursing homes can't hire care workers anymore(most controversial)

I was going to say yeah this is the most retarded aspect of it all. I can see them u-turning this one easily. Every NHS hospital is literally full of immigrants working in jobs from kitchen porter to oncologist. Brits who got a 21st century education just don't want to do these jobs.