Next and Last Stack at 15

[Zagro]

So some people wanted to see my stack and i also wanted to see what others think about my next stack which I’ll hop on in around 2 weeks, so i have decided to make a short thread about it and also will leave out some things but i will share the gear and peptides for the most part.

These are low doses compared to what I’ve done in the past but I’m actually very health conscious at the moment, so i will run moderate doses for this blast and cruise.

I will continue this till I’m satisfied hopefully and might drop the tren after some time, so this is technically my last stack at 15.

HGH 8iu ED
Anavar 25mg ED
Testosterone Enanthate 300mg E3D
Trenbolone Enanthate 200mg E3D
Retatrutide 5mg Weekly
Gluthathione 300mg EOD
BPC-157 500mcg ED
GHK-Cu 2.5mg ED

Aromasin 15mg ED
Isotretinoin 30mg ED
Tadalafil 10mg ED
Caber 0.25mg EOD
T4 20mcg ED
+ More ancillaries and other shit (sartans, statins, supplements and other substances)

Bhais this is it, @Copercel @org3cel.RR @Jeremy Meeks @menas

 

[bp_1]

Care to explain why you think that?


Thanks man and i will also adjust my lifestyle for the stack too like you’ve told me before, so any possible damage this stack might cause is pretty minimal hopefully.

Yeah i will drop the tren or any orals after this one for a while probably, maybe 6 months or so of trt is good enough after this one.


Last stack at 15 because i will run this till next year and by then i would already be 16.

There is a reason for every single one, if you meant the peptides most of them are for my health.

you are 171 cm bro. and you are taking test, high dose anavar, high dose hgh which is all gonna accleerate plate closure. you might have good initial height velocity but you are gonna fuck your plates hard jfl.

ive reason to believe this thread is larp now tbh

 

[Zagro]

you are 171 cm bro. and you are taking test, high dose anavar, high dose hgh which is all gonna accleerate plate closure. you might have good initial height velocity but you are gonna fuck your plates hard jfl.

ive reason to believe this thread is larp now tbh

You do know that estrogen is the main and arguably the only way that it may close my plates right?

Last time i grew i was also on another stack, so it helps. I also don’t really care if you don’t believe me as i have proven myself to enough people.

 

[bp_1]

You do know that estrogen is the main and arguably the only way that it may close my plates right?

Last time i grew i was also on another stack, so it helps. I also don’t really care if you don’t believe me as i have proven myself to enough people.

you do know that testosterone also converts to estrogen? and no your 15 mg aromasin isnt enough. and im pretty sure your dose of anavar significantly advasnces bone age, througha. different mechanism.

and hgh at high doses when given to adolescents is so detrimental that they end up 8-10 cm shorter.

 

[Zagro]

you do know that testosterone also converts to estrogen? and no your 15 mg aromasin isnt enough. and im pretty sure your dose of anavar significantly advasnces bone age, througha. different mechanism.

and hgh at high doses when given to adolescents is so detrimental that they end up 8-10 cm shorter.

Yeah this the reason for aromasin in my stack and yes 15mg is enough lol i have done lower doses of aromasin with similar gear doses and my e2 was still 29pg, at 15mg ed i should be able to get it around 15pg which is my goal. Do you think that lowering e2 is an extremely hard thing? I possibly will nuke it rather than have high levels of it but i will make sure to not do that.

Back that statement up about anavar advancing bone age right quick and ill look into it. Also you do see the tren and test right? Lol those also age bone so that isn’t a worry.

“Hgh hater” i can see that you want to be different bro its okay, you’re so cool and shit for hating hgh cause of one random study. Cite all the studies right quick I’ll check them out.

 

[Zagro]

Brutal

 

[Brian Weber]

Mirin the stack, but I'm wondering how you cope with the reality of permanent testosterone suppression?
I'm not totally educated, but I'd assume that after running a stack like this, you will never be able to fully recover your testosterone levels, right?

 

[Zagro]

Mirin the stack, but I'm wondering how you cope with the reality of permanent testosterone suppression?
I'm not totally educated, but I'd assume that after running a stack like this, you will never be able to fully recover your testosterone levels, right?

Thank you, and its a risk that you’d have to take it doesn’t mean that its guaranteed but the probability of endogenous testosterone production shutting down after this stack is higher than the average guy running just 500mg test. So dose and the length of the stack both matter.

I already have ran a harsher and short stack and fully recovered right after with zero PCT or anything. Also the thought of TRT for life doesn’t really bother me to be honest. It’s just an arguably small risk that comes with it.

 

[laworg]

So some people wanted to see my stack and i also wanted to see what others think about my next stack which I’ll hop on in around 2 weeks, so i have decided to make a short thread about it and also will leave out some things but i will share the gear and peptides for the most part.

These are low doses compared to what I’ve done in the past but I’m actually very health conscious at the moment, so i will run moderate doses for this blast and cruise.

I will continue this till I’m satisfied hopefully and might drop the tren after some time, so this is technically my last stack at 15.

HGH 8iu ED
Anavar 25mg ED
Testosterone Enanthate 300mg E3D
Trenbolone Enanthate 200mg E3D
Retatrutide 5mg Weekly
Gluthathione 300mg EOD
BPC-157 500mcg ED
GHK-Cu 2.5mg ED

Aromasin 15mg ED
Isotretinoin 30mg ED
Tadalafil 10mg ED
Caber 0.25mg EOD
T4 20mcg ED
+ More ancillaries and other shit (sartans, statins, supplements and other substances)

Bhais this is it, @Copercel @org3cel.RR @Jeremy Meeks @menas

Whered u get ur gh from

 

[CertifiedGoy]

It’ll be funny when you don’t grow a molecule of bone and instead end up in hospital. Fucking braindead kid

 

[rotation]

It’ll be funny when you don’t grow a molecule of bone and instead end up in hospital. Fucking braindead kid

 

[CertifiedGoy]

As you can clearly see in my bio I have stated I am not a grey and this is my new account. Stupid faggot can’t even read

 

[Zagro]

It’ll be funny when you don’t grow a molecule of bone and instead end up in hospital. Fucking braindead kid

I wont even bother and waste my time on you man

 

[Spieldren]

As you can clearly see in my bio I have stated I am not a grey and this is my new account. Stupid faggot can’t even read

its actually true cuz every single bodybuilder who used PEDs on this earth ended up in a hospital

 

[Zagro]

Whered u get ur gh from

Sharing it here would ensure something similar to what happened with SSA

 

[laworg]

Sharing it here would ensure something similar to what happened with SSA

Just pmo bro

 

[CertifiedGoy]

I wont even bother and waste my time on you man

Bro you’re 15 running a whole pharmaceutical company in your body. You will grow naturally

 

[CertifiedGoy]

its actually true cuz every single bodybuilder who used PEDs on this earth ended up in a hospital

The difference is this kids 15

 

[Zagro]

You will grow naturally

Do you think that i run all this because i don’t grow or some shit? Are you fucking retarded or ragebaiting.

I have ran a harsher stack too.

 

[CertifiedGoy]

Do you think that i run all this because i don’t grow or some shit? Are you fucking retarded or ragebaiting.

I have ran a harsher stack too.

No I assume your roiding for bone but you only have a certain number of chondrocytes so what’s the point in blasting this much and spending this much money when you can just reach your full genetic potential naturally

 

[VrillFatNoob24]

So some people wanted to see my stack and i also wanted to see what others think about my next stack which I’ll hop on in around 2 weeks, so i have decided to make a short thread about it and also will leave out some things but i will share the gear and peptides for the most part.

These are low doses compared to what I’ve done in the past but I’m actually very health conscious at the moment, so i will run moderate doses for this blast and cruise.

I will continue this till I’m satisfied hopefully and might drop the tren after some time, so this is technically my last stack at 15.

HGH 8iu ED
Anavar 25mg ED
Testosterone Enanthate 300mg E3D
Trenbolone Enanthate 200mg E3D
Retatrutide 5mg Weekly
Gluthathione 300mg EOD
BPC-157 500mcg ED
GHK-Cu 2.5mg ED

Aromasin 15mg ED
Isotretinoin 30mg ED
Tadalafil 10mg ED
Caber 0.25mg EOD
T4 20mcg ED
+ More ancillaries and other shit (sartans, statins, supplements and other substances)

Bhais this is it, @Copercel @org3cel.RR @Jeremy Meeks @menas

when done send leftovers

 

[Spieldren]

No I assume your roiding for bone but you only have a certain number of chondrocytes so what’s the point in blasting this much and spending this much money when you can just reach your full genetic potential naturally

JFL at natural genetics. These days almost everyone has below optimal testosterone and gh to develop optimally.

Why do you think these forums exist and the average for population is ltn? If everyone developed healthily without hormone distruption without stress without toxins and pollutans then yes in that scenario you develop exact same exogenous or endogenous but nobody on this earth have hormones that let puberty do its thing.

Avg guy is a hormonal victim just like zagro prolly. Im 17 years old every single growth plate on knee is closed but i am tanner stage 3 LOL.

I agree most 15 year olds dont need exogenous hormones but there are few ppl that benefit from PEDs when natural body fails. And it just so happens that all sub5 in this forum are exactly that

TL;DR - You dont need roids or hgh to become handsome/tall if you grow up optimally but almost nobody does, so exogenous hormones help

 

[CertifiedGoy]

JFL at natural genetics. These days almost everyone has below optimal testosterone and gh to develop optimally.

Why do you think these forums exist and the average for population is ltn? If everyone developed healthily without hormone distruption without stress without toxins and pollutans then yes in that scenario you develop exact same exogenous or endogenous but nobody on this earth have hormones that let puberty do its thing.

Avg guy is a hormonal victim just like zagro prolly. Im 17 years old every single growth plate on knee is closed but i am tanner stage 3 LOL.

I agree most 15 year olds dont need exogenous hormones but there are few ppl that benefit from PEDs when natural body fails. And it just so happens that all sub5 in this forum are exactly that

TL;DR - You dont need roids or hgh to become handsome/tall if you grow up optimally but almost nobody does, so exogenous hormones help

Yeah you’re right. Everyone should at least be mtn in an ideal world. Shit food and environment is the reason sub 5s exists. Unless you have genetic mutations from fucked sperm or egg. Still possible to get good hormones naturally if you put effort into diet etc

 

[Zagro]

No I assume your roiding for bone but you only have a certain number of chondrocytes so what’s the point in blasting this much and spending this much money when you can just reach your full genetic potential naturally

I mean partly yes but chondrocytes don't necessarily mean no extra bone growth, and you can even increase the amount of chondrocytes you have with different compound that synergise with my stack.

JFL at natural genetics. These days almost everyone has below optimal testosterone and gh to develop optimally.

Why do you think these forums exist and the average for population is ltn? If everyone developed healthily without hormone distruption without stress without toxins and pollutans then yes in that scenario you develop exact same exogenous or endogenous but nobody on this earth have hormones that let puberty do its thing.

Avg guy is a hormonal victim just like zagro prolly. Im 17 years old every single growth plate on knee is closed but i am tanner stage 3 LOL.

I agree most 15 year olds dont need exogenous hormones but there are few ppl that benefit from PEDs when natural body fails. And it just so happens that all sub5 in this forum are exactly that

TL;DR - You dont need roids or hgh to become handsome/tall if you grow up optimally but almost nobody does, so exogenous hormones help

Don't fall for having the perfect diet, exercise, raw primal lifestyle etc the results wont be that significant as i have done all of those shit and experienced zero difference.

If you meant low levels of test and shit with the hormonal victim part no i wasn't one, i actually had pretty high levels of testosterone but the thing is high T=high E2 which basically ensures premature fusion of the epiphyseal plates and a early-puberty essentially. This isn't what you should aim for (high testosterone, if you won't use an aromatase inhibitor). Doing it naturally is pretty shit imo.

Yeah you’re right. Everyone should at least be mtn in an ideal world. Shit food and environment is the reason sub 5s exists. Unless you have genetic mutations from fucked sperm or egg. Still possible to get good hormones naturally if you put effort into diet etc

Do you know how bad it would be if everyone was mtn? Anyone who's in the HTN-CL range would be treated even better than how it is now. Epigenetic factors aren't the sole reason sub 5s exist and having good hormones (if not supraphysiological levels) won't cause any significant differences.

 

[CertifiedGoy]

I mean partly yes but chondrocytes don't necessarily mean no extra bone growth, and you can even increase the amount of chondrocytes you have with different compound that synergise with my stack

Fair enough

Don't fall for having the perfect diet, exercise, raw primal lifestyle etc the results wont be that significant as i have done all of those shit and experienced zero difference.

Yes of course it won’t yield as much results as supraphysiological hormone levels but for general health and mental they are good. Having said that fat soluble vitamins are very important for bone growth and development which raw primal provides good amounts of. K2 also keeps growth plates and sutures open longer. There’s studies on that.

Do you know how bad it would be if everyone was mtn? Anyone who's in the HTN-CL range would be treated even better than how it is now. Epigenetic factors aren't the sole reason sub 5s exist and having good hormones (if not supraphysiological levels) won't cause any significant differences.

I didn’t say everyone would be mtn I meant 90% of people should be at least mtn. Also you have good knowledge for being 15. I didn’t have a clue at your age jfl. Wouldn’t have the balls to run a cycle like yours either. Also I’m interested how you plan to hide everything from your parents

 

[laworg]

JFL at natural genetics. These days almost everyone has below optimal testosterone and gh to develop optimally.

Why do you think these forums exist and the average for population is ltn? If everyone developed healthily without hormone distruption without stress without toxins and pollutans then yes in that scenario you develop exact same exogenous or endogenous but nobody on this earth have hormones that let puberty do its thing.

Avg guy is a hormonal victim just like zagro prolly. Im 17 years old every single growth plate on knee is closed but i am tanner stage 3 LOL.

I agree most 15 year olds dont need exogenous hormones but there are few ppl that benefit from PEDs when natural body fails. And it just so happens that all sub5 in this forum are exactly that

TL;DR - You dont need roids or hgh to become handsome/tall if you grow up optimally but almost nobody does, so exogenous hormones help

Word lol look at a study from 2016 natural tesr levels in men gone down 25% in 16 years and people say every year it decreases 1,5%

So yes not a need but the avg is avg for a reasons do everything to be above average

 

[CertifiedGoy]

Btw bro why are you using gh and anabolics at the same time instead of just using gh while your sutures are still open to maximize sutural growth and then run androgens and anabolics later to promote appositional bone growth and thickening? This way you could get the same results and also less risk. Correct me if im wrong or retarded.

 

[Zagro]

Fair enough

Yes of course it won’t yield as much results as supraphysiological hormone levels but for general health and mental they are good. Having said that fat soluble vitamins are very important for bone growth and development which raw primal provides good amounts of. K2 also keeps growth plates and sutures open longer. There’s studies on that.

I didn’t say everyone would be mtn I meant 90% of people should be at least mtn. Also you have good knowledge for being 15. I didn’t have a clue at your age jfl. Wouldn’t have the balls to run a cycle like yours either. Also I’m interested how you plan to hide everything from your parents

Yeah i could agree that when i did a strict diet i did feel better mentally and just clean in a way, don't really know how to explain. Most things can be proven to be good for bone growth etc like even vitamin D, what matters is how much of a difference it really makes.

Also i have already failed once at hiding my gear (link to the thread) so i won't fail this time. Its a pretty high effort way but works perfectly, i basically hide and inject everything outside of the house. Also thank you man.

Btw bro why are you using gh and anabolics at the same time instead of just using gh while your sutures are still open to maximize sutural growth and then run androgens and anabolics later to promote appositional bone growth and thickening? This way you could get the same results and also less risk. Correct me if im wrong or retarded.

They synergise well together so many added benefits although as you've said added risks as well, but the risks aren't growth related and minimizable so it doesn't bother me much. I wouldn't say same results but a slightly lower risk yeah. Its better to use them together as they synergise well and increase the efficiency of other compounds.

 

[Jihadist Euro]

So some people wanted to see my stack and i also wanted to see what others think about my next stack which I’ll hop on in around 2 weeks, so i have decided to make a short thread about it and also will leave out some things but i will share the gear and peptides for the most part.

These are low doses compared to what I’ve done in the past but I’m actually very health conscious at the moment, so i will run moderate doses for this blast and cruise.

I will continue this till I’m satisfied hopefully and might drop the tren after some time, so this is technically my last stack at 15.

HGH 8iu ED
Anavar 25mg ED
Testosterone Enanthate 300mg E3D
Trenbolone Enanthate 200mg E3D
Retatrutide 5mg Weekly
Gluthathione 300mg EOD
BPC-157 500mcg ED
GHK-Cu 2.5mg ED

Aromasin 15mg ED
Isotretinoin 30mg ED
Tadalafil 10mg ED
Caber 0.25mg EOD
T4 20mcg ED
+ More ancillaries and other shit (sartans, statins, supplements and other substances)

Bhais this is it, @Copercel @org3cel.RR @Jeremy Meeks @menas

What will the use of glutathione be here? AFAIK isn’t it for skin lightening?

 

[Zagro]

What will the use of glutathione be here? AFAIK isn’t it for skin lightening?

Liver health as the oral steroids will rape it and tren may indirectly worsen it

 

[Jihadist Euro]

Liver health as the oral steroids will rape it and tren may indirectly worsen it

Ahh okay

 

[CertifiedGoy]

Also i have already failed once at hiding my gear

Bruh how do you still have access to the internet after that. I’ve got 3 vials of test and like 60 needles lying under my wardrobe that I never bothered to use and if my parents found that shit they’d kick me out of the house

 

[NoaA99]

You shouldn’t use Tren while still developing. It’s hands down the most neurotoxic steroid. It massively increases Amyloid Beta 42, a peptide associated with literally all neurodegenerative disorders.

Over a lifetime, intelligence is the most important attribute, and I personally wouldn’t consciously risk harming it.

 

[NoaA99]

JFL at natural genetics. These days almost everyone has below optimal testosterone and gh to develop optimally.

Why do you think these forums exist and the average for population is ltn? If everyone developed healthily without hormone distruption without stress without toxins and pollutans then yes in that scenario you develop exact same exogenous or endogenous but nobody on this earth have hormones that let puberty do its thing.

Avg guy is a hormonal victim just like zagro prolly. Im 17 years old every single growth plate on knee is closed but i am tanner stage 3 LOL.

I agree most 15 year olds dont need exogenous hormones but there are few ppl that benefit from PEDs when natural body fails. And it just so happens that all sub5 in this forum are exactly that

TL;DR - You dont need roids or hgh to become handsome/tall if you grow up optimally but almost nobody does, so exogenous hormones help

No, the average isn’t LTN. The average is consistently adjusted and standardised on a normal bell curve.
It’s like saying the average IQ suddenly dropped to 90, all of a sudden, which isn’t how standardisation works.
Per definition, it’s always at 100.
Similarly, the average person is MTN.

 

[NoaA99]

JFL at natural genetics. These days almost everyone has below optimal testosterone and gh to develop optimally.

Why do you think these forums exist and the average for population is ltn? If everyone developed healthily without hormone distruption without stress without toxins and pollutans then yes in that scenario you develop exact same exogenous or endogenous but nobody on this earth have hormones that let puberty do its thing.

Avg guy is a hormonal victim just like zagro prolly. Im 17 years old every single growth plate on knee is closed but i am tanner stage 3 LOL.

I agree most 15 year olds dont need exogenous hormones but there are few ppl that benefit from PEDs when natural body fails. And it just so happens that all sub5 in this forum are exactly that

TL;DR - You dont need roids or hgh to become handsome/tall if you grow up optimally but almost nobody does, so exogenous hormones help

No, the average isn’t LTN. The average is consistently adjusted and standardised on a normal bell curve.
It’s like saying the average IQ suddenly dropped to 90, all of a sudden, which isn’t how standardisation works.
Per definition, it’s always at 100.
Similarly, the average person is MTN.

 

[NoaA99]

JFL at natural genetics. These days almost everyone has below optimal testosterone and gh to develop optimally.

Why do you think these forums exist and the average for population is ltn? If everyone developed healthily without hormone distruption without stress without toxins and pollutans then yes in that scenario you develop exact same exogenous or endogenous but nobody on this earth have hormones that let puberty do its thing.

Avg guy is a hormonal victim just like zagro prolly. Im 17 years old every single growth plate on knee is closed but i am tanner stage 3 LOL.

I agree most 15 year olds dont need exogenous hormones but there are few ppl that benefit from PEDs when natural body fails. And it just so happens that all sub5 in this forum are exactly that

TL;DR - You dont need roids or hgh to become handsome/tall if you grow up optimally but almost nobody does, so exogenous hormones help

No, the average isn’t LTN. The average is consistently adjusted and standardised on a normal bell curve.
It’s like saying the average IQ suddenly dropped to 90, all of a sudden, which isn’t how standardisation works.
Per definition, it’s always at 100.
Similarly, the average person is MTN.

 

[NoaA99]

JFL at natural genetics. These days almost everyone has below optimal testosterone and gh to develop optimally.

Why do you think these forums exist and the average for population is ltn? If everyone developed healthily without hormone distruption without stress without toxins and pollutans then yes in that scenario you develop exact same exogenous or endogenous but nobody on this earth have hormones that let puberty do its thing.

Avg guy is a hormonal victim just like zagro prolly. Im 17 years old every single growth plate on knee is closed but i am tanner stage 3 LOL.

I agree most 15 year olds dont need exogenous hormones but there are few ppl that benefit from PEDs when natural body fails. And it just so happens that all sub5 in this forum are exactly that

TL;DR - You dont need roids or hgh to become handsome/tall if you grow up optimally but almost nobody does, so exogenous hormones help

No, the average isn’t LTN. The average is consistently adjusted and standardised on a normal bell curve.
It’s like saying the average IQ dropped to 90, all of a sudden, which isn’t how standardisation works.
Per definition, it’s always at 100.
Similarly, the average person is MTN.

 

[NoaA99]

JFL at natural genetics. These days almost everyone has below optimal testosterone and gh to develop optimally.

Why do you think these forums exist and the average for population is ltn? If everyone developed healthily without hormone distruption without stress without toxins and pollutans then yes in that scenario you develop exact same exogenous or endogenous but nobody on this earth have hormones that let puberty do its thing.

Avg guy is a hormonal victim just like zagro prolly. Im 17 years old every single growth plate on knee is closed but i am tanner stage 3 LOL.

I agree most 15 year olds dont need exogenous hormones but there are few ppl that benefit from PEDs when natural body fails. And it just so happens that all sub5 in this forum are exactly that

TL;DR - You dont need roids or hgh to become handsome/tall if you grow up optimally but almost nobody does, so exogenous hormones help

No, the average isn’t LTN. The average is consistently adjusted and standardised on a normal bell curve.
It’s like saying the average IQ dropped to 90, all of a sudden, which isn’t how standardisation works.
Per definition, it’s always at 100.
Similarly, the average person is MTN.

 

[NoaA99]

JFL at natural genetics. These days almost everyone has below optimal testosterone and gh to develop optimally.

Why do you think these forums exist and the average for population is ltn? If everyone developed healthily without hormone distruption without stress without toxins and pollutans then yes in that scenario you develop exact same exogenous or endogenous but nobody on this earth have hormones that let puberty do its thing.

Avg guy is a hormonal victim just like zagro prolly. Im 17 years old every single growth plate on knee is closed but i am tanner stage 3 LOL.

I agree most 15 year olds dont need exogenous hormones but there are few ppl that benefit from PEDs when natural body fails. And it just so happens that all sub5 in this forum are exactly that

TL;DR - You dont need roids or hgh to become handsome/tall if you grow up optimally but almost nobody does, so exogenous hormones help

No, the average isn’t LTN. The average is consistently adjusted and standardised on a normal bell curve.
It’s like saying the average IQ dropped to 90, all of a sudden, which isn’t how standardisation works.
Per definition, it’s always at 100.
Similarly, the average person is MTN.

 

[NoaA99]

JFL at natural genetics. These days almost everyone has below optimal testosterone and gh to develop optimally.

Why do you think these forums exist and the average for population is ltn? If everyone developed healthily without hormone distruption without stress without toxins and pollutans then yes in that scenario you develop exact same exogenous or endogenous but nobody on this earth have hormones that let puberty do its thing.

Avg guy is a hormonal victim just like zagro prolly. Im 17 years old every single growth plate on knee is closed but i am tanner stage 3 LOL.

I agree most 15 year olds dont need exogenous hormones but there are few ppl that benefit from PEDs when natural body fails. And it just so happens that all sub5 in this forum are exactly that

TL;DR - You dont need roids or hgh to become handsome/tall if you grow up optimally but almost nobody does, so exogenous hormones help

No, the average isn’t LTN. The average is consistently adjusted and standardised on a normal bell curve.
It’s like saying the average IQ dropped to 90, all of a sudden, which isn’t how standardisation works.
Per definition, it’s always at 100.
Similarly, the average person is MTN.

 

[Spieldren]

No, the average isn’t LTN. The average is consistently adjusted and standardised on a normal bell curve.
It’s like saying the average IQ suddenly dropped to 90, all of a sudden, which isn’t how standardisation works.
Per definition, it’s always at 100.
Similarly, the average person is MTN.

what the fuck i heard you the first time why would you send me 7 fucking notifies on same fucking shit.

im a tiktokcel so i tought ltn is avg but looked up mtn is average so yeah ur right avg is mtn not ltn but the whole point still stands.

also your example doesnt make any sense. You are saying max IQ is 100? Or are you saying that average iq is 100 and it will never change? in that case you are contradicting yourself since if average iq dropped to 90 than the new avg would just be 90, meaning not always 100

 

[NoaA99]

JFL at natural genetics. These days almost everyone has below optimal testosterone and gh to develop optimally.

Why do you think these forums exist and the average for population is ltn? If everyone developed healthily without hormone distruption without stress without toxins and pollutans then yes in that scenario you develop exact same exogenous or endogenous but nobody on this earth have hormones that let puberty do its thing.

Avg guy is a hormonal victim just like zagro prolly. Im 17 years old every single growth plate on knee is closed but i am tanner stage 3 LOL.

I agree most 15 year olds dont need exogenous hormones but there are few ppl that benefit from PEDs when natural body fails. And it just so happens that all sub5 in this forum are exactly that

TL;DR - You dont need roids or hgh to become handsome/tall if you grow up optimally but almost nobody does, so exogenous hormones help

what the fuck i heard you the first time why would you send me 7 fucking notifies on same fucking shit.

im a tiktokcel so i tought ltn is avg but looked up mtn is average so yeah ur right avg is mtn not ltn but the whole point still stands.

also your example doesnt make any sense. You are saying max IQ is 100? Or are you saying that average iq is 100 and it will never change? in that case you are contradicting yourself since if average iq dropped to 90 than the new avg would just be 90, meaning not always 100

I obviously just wanted to spam you and make my point as clear as possible.

No, of course not, my internet wasn’t working, and I clicked send a few times without anything going through. Apparently, it decided to catch up all at once now.

The average IQ of 100 is defined by design, it’s always adjusted so that 100 represents the exact average for any given population.
That’s why MTN should always represent the average.
It doesn’t make sense to basically state: „the new average, is below average now“. That’s a contradiction in of itself.

 

[CertifiedGoy]

You shouldn’t use Tren while still developing. It’s hands down the most neurotoxic steroid. It massively increases Amyloid Beta 42, a peptide associated with literally all neurodegenerative disorders.

Over a lifetime, intelligence is the most important attribute, and I personally wouldn’t consciously risk harming it.

Was also thinking this but this kid is actually quite high iq. Thought he was a retarded TikTok kid larping at first jfl. So he knows the risks. Could also argue bone matters more than a couple points of iq. Austistic chad will pull more than ltn Einstein

 

[NoaA99]

Was also thinking this but this kid is actually quite high iq. Thought he was a retarded TikTok kid larping at first jfl. So he knows the risks. Also at the end of day bone matters more than iq. Autistic chad will pull more than ltn Einstein

Probably, he definitely comes off as smart, for his age.

Though, I wouldn’t call it particularly high IQ to be recklessly playing with fire like this.
But maybe that’s more a sign of immaturity. When I was 15, I didn’t care about long-term consequences either, I just chased instant gratification.

 

[Healthmax01]

So some people wanted to see my stack and i also wanted to see what others think about my next stack which I’ll hop on in around 2 weeks, so i have decided to make a short thread about it and also will leave out some things but i will share the gear and peptides for the most part.

These are low doses compared to what I’ve done in the past but I’m actually very health conscious at the moment, so i will run moderate doses for this blast and cruise.

I will continue this till I’m satisfied hopefully and might drop the tren after some time, so this is technically my last stack at 15.

HGH 8iu ED
Anavar 25mg ED
Testosterone Enanthate 300mg E3D
Trenbolone Enanthate 200mg E3D
Retatrutide 5mg Weekly
Gluthathione 300mg EOD
BPC-157 500mcg ED
GHK-Cu 2.5mg ED

Aromasin 15mg ED
Isotretinoin 30mg ED
Tadalafil 10mg ED
Caber 0.25mg EOD
T4 20mcg ED
+ More ancillaries and other shit (sartans, statins, supplements and other substances)

Bhais this is it, @Copercel @org3cel.RR @Jeremy Meeks @menas

Are you not worried about fertility at 15 and HpTA axis

 

[rare.zgvvvv]

So some people wanted to see my stack and i also wanted to see what others think about my next stack which I’ll hop on in around 2 weeks, so i have decided to make a short thread about it and also will leave out some things but i will share the gear and peptides for the most part.

These are low doses compared to what I’ve done in the past but I’m actually very health conscious at the moment, so i will run moderate doses for this blast and cruise.

I will continue this till I’m satisfied hopefully and might drop the tren after some time, so this is technically my last stack at 15.

HGH 8iu ED
Anavar 25mg ED
Testosterone Enanthate 300mg E3D
Trenbolone Enanthate 200mg E3D
Retatrutide 5mg Weekly
Gluthathione 300mg EOD
BPC-157 500mcg ED
GHK-Cu 2.5mg ED

Aromasin 15mg ED
Isotretinoin 30mg ED
Tadalafil 10mg ED
Caber 0.25mg EOD
T4 20mcg ED
+ More ancillaries and other shit (sartans, statins, supplements and other substances)

Bhais this is it, @Copercel @org3cel.RR @Jeremy Meeks @menas

 

[Zagro]

Are you not worried about fertility at 15 and HpTA axis

Not really as i don't have much to lose

 

[Zagro]

You shouldn’t use Tren while still developing. It’s hands down the most neurotoxic steroid. It massively increases Amyloid Beta 42, a peptide associated with literally all neurodegenerative disorders.

Over a lifetime, intelligence is the most important attribute, and I personally wouldn’t consciously risk harming it.

Yeah i know and its very noticeable as last time i used it my friends literally noticed how much more retarded i acted and my grades went to shit but i don't mind it.

Bruh how do you still have access to the internet after that. I’ve got 3 vials of test and like 60 needles lying under my wardrobe that I never bothered to use and if my parents found that shit they’d kick me out of the house

Well they did threaten to send me to a whole other country outside EU which would have literally fucked my life up.

 

[vision_n]

It feels so sad when I read your comments and I haven't understand a word.