Next Steps in My Ascension: How to reach CL?

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What's up brahs. Pretty much maxxed out my softmaxxes, now looking into non-invasive hardmaxxes like Botox and filler to keep ascending.

Main flaws:
  • No top lip
  • Nose hooks down when I smile
  • Recessed maxilla
I want to avoid rhino surgery for now since I'll need deviated septum surgery in a few years and can combo my rhino with that. So looking into a non-surgical rhino as a bridge.

Also feel like my maxilla/palate got recessed after Invisalign, bite is super tight now and you can see how recessed my teeth are in my smiling side profile. its so weird...

Current softmaxxes in progress:
  • Leaning down to 8% BF (sitting ~12% rn)
  • Growing lashes and brows thicker
  • Working on coloring/contrast — slightly tanner, darker brows, light highlights (lost my blonde from MT2)
  • Improving skin texture and under-eye color
  • (Need to trim the beard lol)
Quality of life is solid at my current level, so I'm looking for the least invasive methods to ascend to CL. Any recommendation or advice? Thanks.
 

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Not possible. You need surgery to get where you want. Fillers and botox would barely improve anything.
 
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What's up brahs. Pretty much maxxed out my softmaxxes, now looking into non-invasive hardmaxxes like Botox and filler to keep ascending.

Main flaws:
  • No top lip
  • Nose hooks down when I smile
  • Recessed maxilla
I want to avoid rhino surgery for now since I'll need deviated septum surgery in a few years and can combo my rhino with that. So looking into a non-surgical rhino as a bridge.

Also feel like my maxilla/palate got recessed after Invisalign, bite is super tight now and you can see how recessed my teeth are in my smiling side profile. its so weird...

Current softmaxxes in progress:
  • Leaning down to 8% BF (sitting ~12% rn)
  • Growing lashes and brows thicker
  • Working on coloring/contrast — slightly tanner, darker brows, light highlights (lost my blonde from MT2)
  • Improving skin texture and under-eye color
  • (Need to trim the beard lol)
Quality of life is solid at my current level, so I'm looking for the least invasive methods to ascend to CL. Any recommendation or advice? Thanks.
Liquid rhino would definitely help but rhino mogs it to death so pretty pointless depending on how long away your planning on rhino
 
Not possible. You need surgery to get where you want. Fillers and botox would barely improve anything.
I think you are right to an extent. Most likely, I'll be doing Botox and filler temporarily as my consultations for rhino and LeFort 1 will take years, especially since I have the chance of insurance covering some of my procedures. My Orthodontist screwed up my top palate really bad, I got straight teeth, but at the cost of my jaw...
 
Lefort with probably fix ur nose
 
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Liquid rhino would definitely help but rhino mogs it to death so pretty pointless depending on how long away your planning on rhino
Trust me I know... I'm really trying to stay patient with this whole thing. Right now, I am looking into these filler options as a temporary solution(not planning on doing all): Paranasal filler; Infraorbital/anterior cheek filler; Upper lip filler; liquid rhino.

I think the lip and rhino would give me the biggest boost in appeal right now. Robert Pattinson's appeal is what keeps me going.
 
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damn u fs need a liplift and idk if cl is possible tbh u gt understand its top 1% minimum
 
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Why do u think ur recessed? Whats ur sna?
 
What's up brahs. Pretty much maxxed out my softmaxxes, now looking into non-invasive hardmaxxes like Botox and filler to keep ascending.

Main flaws:
  • No top lip
  • Nose hooks down when I smile
  • Recessed maxilla
I want to avoid rhino surgery for now since I'll need deviated septum surgery in a few years and can combo my rhino with that. So looking into a non-surgical rhino as a bridge.

Also feel like my maxilla/palate got recessed after Invisalign, bite is super tight now and you can see how recessed my teeth are in my smiling side profile. its so weird...

Current softmaxxes in progress:
  • Leaning down to 8% BF (sitting ~12% rn)
  • Growing lashes and brows thicker
  • Working on coloring/contrast — slightly tanner, darker brows, light highlights (lost my blonde from MT2)
  • Improving skin texture and under-eye color
  • (Need to trim the beard lol)
Quality of life is solid at my current level, so I'm looking for the least invasive methods to ascend to CL. Any recommendation or advice? Thanks.
Bimax is the next step. Bimax could also even help with your nose
 
damn u fs need a liplift and idk if cl is possible tbh u gt understand its top 1% minimum
What a stupid mindset. I started from an LTN base. Everything I do is in the top 1%, my income, physique, strength, everything. I don't think of this as unattainable. But thank you for the advice.
 
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You could consider filler for the tip of your nose to temporarily mask the droop until you can get rhinoplasty. Click between the two pictures back and forth to see the difference in your nose.

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Minor difference, but any major difference in your face would require surgery past this point.
 
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You could consider filler for the tip of your nose to temporarily mask the droop until you can get rhinoplasty. Click between the two pictures back and forth to see the difference in your nose.

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Minor difference, but any major difference in your face would require surgery past this point.
Honestly, I'll take any improvement I can temporarily. Nose already mogs so hard in there, and the Botox can help with the nose pointing downward when I smile. I had a surgeon offer maxillary implants, but I would rather go through with the LeFort 1 as it's more functional and safer long term, from what I know.
 
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Upper jaw surgery mate if you really want to do it. Consult with an OMFS they may suggest DJS if you really want it.
 
Upper jaw surgery mate if you really want to do it. Consult with an OMFS they may suggest DJS if you really want it.
Not sure if I need double, my mandible and chin projection is really good. Feel like my maxilla is my largest flaw. I’m gonna appeal max to oblivion like Robert Pattinson while I wait lol.
 
What's up brahs. Pretty much maxxed out my softmaxxes, now looking into non-invasive hardmaxxes like Botox and filler to keep ascending.

Main flaws:
  • No top lip
  • Nose hooks down when I smile
  • Recessed maxilla
I want to avoid rhino surgery for now since I'll need deviated septum surgery in a few years and can combo my rhino with that. So looking into a non-surgical rhino as a bridge.

Also feel like my maxilla/palate got recessed after Invisalign, bite is super tight now and you can see how recessed my teeth are in my smiling side profile. its so weird...

Current softmaxxes in progress:
  • Leaning down to 8% BF (sitting ~12% rn)
  • Growing lashes and brows thicker
  • Working on coloring/contrast — slightly tanner, darker brows, light highlights (lost my blonde from MT2)
  • Improving skin texture and under-eye color
  • (Need to trim the beard lol)
Quality of life is solid at my current level, so I'm looking for the least invasive methods to ascend to CL. Any recommendation or advice? Thanks.
try a goatee like michael b. jordan, he frauds chin projection with a goatee
 
yah my mandible and chin projection is already good, I'm definitely considering a Lefort 1
sybau, you have no need for bimax, i hate how bimax gets thrown around by low iq users.

Rhino has biggest ROI

jaw and lip filler would also be good

Youre high inhib anyway so just go experience life
 
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What's up brahs. Pretty much maxxed out my softmaxxes, now looking into non-invasive hardmaxxes like Botox and filler to keep ascending.

Main flaws:
  • No top lip
  • Nose hooks down when I smile
  • Recessed maxilla
I want to avoid rhino surgery for now since I'll need deviated septum surgery in a few years and can combo my rhino with that. So looking into a non-surgical rhino as a bridge.

Also feel like my maxilla/palate got recessed after Invisalign, bite is super tight now and you can see how recessed my teeth are in my smiling side profile. its so weird...

Current softmaxxes in progress:
  • Leaning down to 8% BF (sitting ~12% rn)
  • Growing lashes and brows thicker
  • Working on coloring/contrast — slightly tanner, darker brows, light highlights (lost my blonde from MT2)
  • Improving skin texture and under-eye color
  • (Need to trim the beard lol)
Quality of life is solid at my current level, so I'm looking for the least invasive methods to ascend to CL. Any recommendation or advice? Thanks.
Mirin bro you look great
 

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