Ngl i don't believe that there's hope in ascending if u r 15+ it's over boyo just hardmax or ldar

[olyen]

It never began and even if we act there's hope it never was and never will
saw ts today and my mood got underground

 

[gandylite.]

improving your misc is always available via soft max and will genuinely ascend you

 

[arx]

If your maxilla isn’t properly developed by 12

Its over

 

[olyen]

improving your misc is always available via soft max and will genuinely ascend you

Won't get u from ltn hell btw
And most misc is genetics u can't change ur eye color and it's nearly impossible to get what u want from improving misc
Misc won't save a boneless nigger

 

[olyen]

If your maxilla isn’t properly developed by 12

Its over

Everything is law so if u r missing smth it's more likely to be over

 

[gandylite.]

Won't get u from ltn hell btw
And most misc is genetics u can't change ur eye color and it's nearly impossible to get what u want from improving misc
Misc won't save a boneless nigger

that’s true, if it’s over it’s over no matter what

 

[arx]

Everything is law so if u r missing smth it's more likely to be over

Your maxilla is the most important bone in your face

Good maxilla development, good under eye support, usually good zygos, more.

 

[olyen]

Your maxilla is the most important bone in your face

Good maxilla development, good under eye support, usually good zygos, more.

Everything is law ik maxxila is the best but if 1 is developed nearly everything is but if u r missing smth then u r missing on everything

 

[olyen]

that’s true, if it’s over it’s over no matter what

I mean u'r not wrong either misc can save sm1 but b4 he needs a hltn+ base mb even mtn+ base

 

[Jgns]

The skull still develops alot after 15, shit exploded for me personally at 16.5

 

[Gen1leman]

It never began and even if we act there's hope it never was and never will
saw ts today and my mood got underground

Always can improve

 

[dnr.niglet]

Tiktokcel, reels are law

 

[olyen]

Always can improve

With surgery ofc without it's nearly impossible

 

[zanenevalackbanks]

Everything is law ik maxxila is the best but if 1 is developed nearly everything is but if u r missing smth then u r missing on everything

"if ur missing smth then u r missing on everything"
even most models are missing something
mensa bottom quartile take

 

[olyen]

Tiktokcel, reels are law

Trash vs garbage

 

[olyen]

"if ur missing smth then u r missing on everything"
even most models are missing something
mensa bottom quartile take

Man u think that they r missing nuh they're not they just have an avg flaw but never missing

 

[olyen]

The skull still develops alot after 15, shit exploded for me personally at 16.5

Genetics man Genetics and u was lucky that's all

 

[zanenevalackbanks]

Man u think that they r missing nuh they're not they just have an avg flaw but never missing

Sean O' Pry, subhuman infraorbitals

 

[olyen]

Sean O' Pry, subhuman infraorbitals
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Subhuman orbitals nigger r u being deadass he literally have an avg orbitals stop coping mf

 

[olyen]

His orbitals r subhuman 4 a psl god yeh but 4 an avg person nigger i would kill to have his orbitals

Sean O' Pry, subhuman infraorbitals
View attachment 5474999

 

[zanenevalackbanks]

Subhuman orbitals nigger r u being deadass he literally have an avg orbitals stop coping mf

bro people have made threads on this
u can literally see how sunken in the area right below his eyes are, it goes just straight down and back
He has no infraorbitals, that's that. But still he looks good, because it takes more than one flaw to have "everything missing" like you said

 

[olyen]

View attachment 5475002
bro people have made threads on this
u can literally see how sunken in the area right below his eyes are, it goes just straight down and back

Let me do the analysis rq

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Depends on underlying baseline A LOT of course but you can definitely ascend in late teens or 20s, really depends how much you can get from softmaxxing and what milder hardmaxxes like braces can do for you and what you get from puberty. 15 is too young to still say it's definitely over though, your face can still develop somewhat extremely from 15 to late teens and 20s. Height growth can happen well into 20s too also for some.

 

[miserycel]

It never began and even if we act there's hope it never was and never will
saw ts today and my mood got underground

There’s always a ton of viable softmax options which can ascend you quite greatly

You gotta understand the bar is low, only a very very small % of men know the things we do

 

[olyen]

Depends on underlying baseline A LOT of course but you can definitely ascend in late teens or 20s, really depends how much you can get from softmaxxing and what milder hardmaxxes like braces can do for you and what you get from puberty. 15 is too young to still say it's definitely over though, your face can still develop somewhat extremely from 15 to late teens and 20s. Height growth can happen well into 20s too also for some.

I'm not saying u r wrong but the cases u r talking about r very rare to happen ur face and height ur whole body is nearly fully developed at 15 u might get lucky but it's just bc of ur genetic u literally can't change anything if u wasn't lucky except with surgeries it's most likely over 4 all underdeveloped 15 years old and manlets

 

[DownwardGrowthCel]

”I don’t believe”

Why would a niggs listen to your retarded theory’s?

 

[olyen]

There’s always a ton of viable softmax options which can ascend you quite greatly

You gotta understand the bar is low, only a very very small % of men know the things we do

Man if sm1 is underdeveloped he can't change it it's over and misc won't save an ltn or a boneless nigger except if u was lucky

 

[Gen1leman]

With surgery ofc without it's nearly impossible

Slim chance with proper diet mewing and posture but ye

 

[olyen]

”I don’t believe”

Why would a niggs listen to your retarded theory’s?

It's not smth u believe it or not it's a fact u can't change

 

[olyen]

”I don’t believe”

Why would a niggs listen to your retarded theory’s?

It's not a theory

 

[Sub5kang]

It never began and even if we act there's hope it never was and never will
saw ts today and my mood got underground

I did but it was just a late puberty
When I joined this site I was like 5"9? At 15 I was 5"7 but now I'm 18 and 6"1. My zygos have grown Hella and I went from obese to athletic. Though 90% of it was just going from fat to fit it was probably just masking my underlying bone structure and height is genetic. You should only LDAR if you're already lean but you're still a boneless chud

 

[olyen]

Slim chance with proper diet mewing and posture but ye

The 1 u mentioned give results b4 10 or mb 9 but at 15 it's just luck biased

 

[olyen]

I did but it was just a late puberty
When I joined this site I was like 5"9? At 15 I was 5"7 but now I'm 18 and 6"0. My zygos have grown Hella and I went from obese to athletic. Though 90% of it was just going from fat to fit it was probably just masking my underlying bone structure and height is genetic. You should only LDAR if you're already lean but you're still a boneless chud

That's what I'm really talking about anything else is just fake hope

 

[DownwardGrowthCel]

It's not smth u believe it or not it's a fact u can't change

So why did you quote ”I don’t believe”?. And where is the study that proves that it is ”over” after 15y?

You’re genuinely a stupid shitposter

 

[Gen1leman]

The 1 u mentioned give results b4 10 or mb 9 but at 15 it's just luck biased

See rep pls

 

[olyen]

U want me to mention them or send them in dms?

So why did you quote ”I don’t believe”?. And where is the study that proves that it is ”over” after 15y?

You’re genuinely a stupid shitposter

 

[kranerman23123]

It never began and even if we act there's hope it never was and never will
saw ts today and my mood got underground

What the fuck are you even talking about

 

[final boss]

u guys always give a random study or randoms stats from fucking tiktok or some garbage website , why u can't just prove it ? don't tell me because some random son of a bitch like k-shami or clav or fucking rehab room . and u said 15 are u iqlet? not 22 not 30 not 25 or 20 ..... 15!!
nah man bellliev it or not just LDAR if u think so....

 

[olyen]

u guys always give a random study or randoms stats from fucking tiktok or some garbage website , why u can't just prove it ? don't tell me because some random son of a bitch like k-shami or clav or fucking rehab room . and u said 15 are u iqlet? not 22 not 30 not 25 or 20 ..... 15!!
nah man bellliev it or not just LDAR if u think so....

Wtv floats on ur boat boyo and most humans stop developing at 16,5 mb b4 mb after it's luck biased u can't even defend it or show a proof

 

[DownwardGrowthCel]

U want me to mention them or send them in dms?

Pm me pls

 

[muhajudin21]

you can ascend lower third but thats about it

 

[silently_said]

niggas giving up at 15

 

[true juan]

It never began and even if we act there's hope it never was and never will
saw ts today and my mood got underground

watur

 

[UserE_7.random]

It never began and even if we act there's hope it never was and never will
saw ts today and my mood got underground

All about base if you’re gonna do softmaxxes. You could turn out Mtn or even higher if lucky. But if your base is subhuman yea no better way to put it unfortunately.

 

[olyen]

niggas giving up at 15

I'm not 15 lol I'm just saying it's over

 

[olyen]

All about base if you’re gonna do softmaxxes. You could turn out Mtn or even higher if lucky. But if your base is subhuman yea no better way to put it unfortunately.

Even ltn it's nearly over

 

[UserE_7.random]

Even ltn it's nearly over

Maybe

 

[olyen]

you can ascend lower third but thats about it

Lower third have bones so nuh

 

[olyen]

Pm me pls

Dm ?

 

[DownwardGrowthCel]

Dm ?

Pm is private message

You dm people on instagram