no carb diet is meta

[2 unknown slayer]

CARBS ARE NOT ESSENTIAL TO THE HUMAN BODY, AND CAN MAKE YOU LOOK WORSE
here’s why:


1. no types of carbs are essentially needed by the human body, no amino acids, no special proteins, nothing



2. “But saar it’s the body’s main source of fuel” yes bhai but that’s only in the circumstance that WE MAKE it our body’s main source of fuel, if everyone ate 0 carbs then people would say shit like “fat is the main source of fuel” so it’s entirely context driven


3. Carbs are meant to be a performance enhancer.

- As carbs have better affects calorie for calorie on energy,

- the insulin produced from the carbs go on to inhibit shbg short term making you feel and perform better,



4. Glucose can be made with protein through gluconeogenesis, not much glucose is actually essential so not too much Protein will be wasted


5. The high insulin levels with blunt gh release, cause insulin to be less sensitive for when it’s needed in certain situations, the insulin will go on to store more glucose in fat tissue making you look bloated

6. Ever wonder why males body fat percentage has been skyrocketing and is far out of the ideal range anymore? It’s because of processed carbs, signalling their body’s to look bloated and rely of carbs as main feul source


7. (Theory) ever wonder why the African tribes grow to be so tall? It’s because of their low-no carb diets not spiking their somatostatin so that their gh levels stay active


If you are genuinely consuming +50g of carbs daily it’s over, start low carb diet now or fall behind…

 

[gymcelld]

dnr I just know that u are stupid

 

[2 unknown slayer]

dnr I just know that u are stupid

dnr carbcel

 

[alphamale82]

7. (Theory) ever wonder why the African tribes grow to be so tall? It’s because of their low-no carb diets not spiking their somatostatin so that their gh levels stay active

to even propose this theory is genuinely fucking retarded
there are dozens of studies consistently showing carbohydrate consumption leads to increased igf-1 production

this is why high dairy consumption often leads to increased final height (disregarding lactoferrin and other bioactive peptides)

 

[2 unknown slayer]

@nocturnalnigga come debunk ts

 

[ybuyhgui]

None of this applies if you intend to build any muscle btw

 

[Bishoplol]

this is such a low iq thread i cant even fathom this. why are so many users trying to rediscover water but end up discovering piss

 

[gymcelld]

dnr carbcel

Fell for the goatis cope you fucking retard

 

[2 unknown slayer]

to even propose this theory is genuinely fucking retarded
there are dozens of studies consistently showing carbohydrate consumption leads to increased igf-1 production

this is why high dairy consumption often leads to increased final height (disregarding lactoferrin and other bioactive peptides)

first of all, this would’ve been an acute spike, eating high carbs for long periods of times blunt gh release, most dairy consumption arent too high in carbohydrates

 

[StellaFanboy]

Anti-carb morons when they see carbs after a month of not eating em

 

[RussianWarCriminal]

Based. No salt lion diet is god tier.

 

[2 unknown slayer]

Anyone trying to disprove the entire thread after 30s of me posting it obviously didn’t read

 

[alphamale82]

first of all, this would’ve been an acute spike, eating high carbs for long periods of times blunt gh release, most dairy consumption arent too high in carbohydrates

gh is released during sleep you fucking halfwit
i would agree with you if you said that you shouldnt consume carbohydrates before bed as that could blunt the gh releases
and there is still no denying that someone with the same genes would grow taller if they ate carbohydrates in conjunction with a high protein diet versus someone who only ate a high protein high fat diet

and no it is not an acute spike, people who consume carbohydrates literally have higher igf-1 levels versus people who don't

 

[2 unknown slayer]

None of this applies if you intend to build any muscle btw

no, carbs may make you look like you have higher muscle mass from glucose storage but instead it’s frauded, keep frauding muscles with carbs instead of actually building it if that’s easier for you jfl

 

[2 unknown slayer]

gh is released during sleep you fucking halfwit
i would agree with you if you said that you shouldnt consume carbohydrates before bed as that could blunt the gh releases
and there is still no denying that someone with the same genes would grow taller if they ate carbohydrates in conjunction with a high protein diet versus someone who only ate a high protein high fat diet

and no it is not an acute spike, people who consume carbohydrates literally have higher igf-1 levels versus people who don't

not all gh is released at night jfl, you may as well join nocturnal Kent if you say this shit, only words very short term

 

[alphamale82]

no, carbs may make you look like you have higher muscle mass from glucose storage but instead it’s frauded, keep frauding muscles with carbs instead of actually building it if that’s easier for you jfl

are you fucking stupid? carbohydrates are necessary for adequate motor unit recruitment during exercise

please kill yourself and make it an utmost priority to

 

[alphamale82]

not all gh is released at night jfl, you may as well join nocturnal Kent if you say this shit, only words very short term

"not all gh is released at night" are you acromegalic then? do you think the .01mgs of gh released during wake contribute to literally anything?

just off the way you type i can tell you're mentally deficient

 

[2 unknown slayer]

are you fucking stupid? carbohydrates are necessary for adequate motor unit recruitment during exercise

please kill yourself and make it an utmost priority to

YOU DIDNT FUCKING READ THE FUCKING THREAD, I SAID CARBS WERE A TOOL FOR USE IN SHORT TERM PERFORMATIVE ACTIVITES JFL AT THIS NIGGER

 

[tentatio]

no, carbs may make you look like you have higher muscle mass from glucose storage but instead it’s frauded, keep frauding muscles with carbs instead of actually building it if that’s easier for you jfl

Your ability to produce repeated high intensity muscle contractions and therefore stimulating reps is dependent on Glycogen storage which can only be maximized with carbs retard
And per Chris Beardsley, Low Carb diets have been shown to increase Excitation Contraction Coupling Failure during resistance training.

 

[2 unknown slayer]

"not all gh is released at night" are you acromegalic then? do you think the .01mgs of gh released during wake contribute to literally anything?

just off the way you type i can tell you're mentally deficient

search it up nigga

 

[alphamale82]

search it up nigga

thank you for disproving what i said you fucking retard

do you think the .01mgs of gh released during wake contribute to literally anything?

 

[molecule8]

holy cope

 

[2 unknown slayer]

thank you for disproving what i said you fucking retard

I told you to search up how much gh is produced during wake? Obviously rejecting your idea that only a tiny portion is made during wake??

Your ability to produce repeated high intensity muscle contractions and therefore stimulating reps is dependent on Glycogen storage which can only be maximized with carbs retard
And per Chris Beardsley, Low Carb diets have been shown to increase Excitation Contraction Coupling Failure during resistance training.

I already said carbs are best in use before active activites, I was responding to a guy saying carbs are needed to have big muscles, he was talking about having high carbs 24/7 which equates to high glycogen storage in muscle which is fraud

 

[alphamale82]

I told you to search up how much gh is produced during wake? Obviously rejecting your idea that only a tiny portion is made during wake??

it's not as simple as lowered gh pulses = bad

insulin literally stimulates the liver to produce igf-1
and it doesn't completely blunt gh from being released
and unless you're chronically overconsuming carbohydrates multiple times in the day, essentially having chronically elevated blood glucose, the net effect on igf-1 is still positive

you also forget to take into account the body does anything to achieve homeostasis
it would simply respond by releasing more gh during sleep/fasting states

so again, the net effect is still positive

 

[2 unknown slayer]

it's not as simple as lowered gh pulses = bad

insulin literally stimulates the liver to produce igf-1
and it doesn't completely blunt gh from being released
and unless you're chronically overconsuming carbohydrates multiple times in the day, essentially having chronically elevated blood glucose, the net effect on igf-1 is still positive

you also forget to take into account the body does anything to achieve homeostasis
it would simply respond by releasing more gh during sleep/fasting states

so again, the net effect is still positive

your right on some points here but, the insulin is not needed to produce more igf1, withiut the insulin there’s still enough conversion, and even without the conversion that would just mean more localised igf1 synthesis and other benefits gh has on chindrocytes, osteoblasts, mscs, etc
So even if you had no insulin the anabolic affects from gh/igf1 would be very very similar then if you did have the insulin but that’s withiut considering the amount of gh that will be blunted from the insulin.

 

[m0ss26]

If you don’t lift weights or exercise whatsoever then sure, carbs aren’t very helpful

Otherwise it’s retarded not to eat high carb, it is a potent performance enhancer

 

[2 unknown slayer]

bro how can you say this withiut reading the thread, petition to ban all dnrcels? @chadisbeingmade

If you don’t lift weights or exercise whatsoever then sure, carbs aren’t very helpful

Otherwise it’s retarded not to eat high carb, it is a potent performance enhancer

 

[tentatio]

I told you to search up how much gh is produced during wake? Obviously rejecting your idea that only a tiny portion is made during wake??

I already said carbs are best in use before active activites, I was responding to a guy saying carbs are needed to have big muscles, he was talking about having high carbs 24/7 which equates to high glycogen storage in muscle which is fraud

It's not fraud.

Maximized muscle glycogen via dietary carbs is needed to maximize MUR as low muscle glycogen will cause an increase in Supraspinal CNS fatigue causing MUR to drop.
Low glycogen will also cause an increase in excitation contraction coupling failure, reducing mechanical tension.
Daily carb intake matters more for maximize glycogen than only consuming pre-activity.

Motor unit Recruitment and Mechanical Tension are what need maximization in order to optimize how much tissue you gain.

 

[m0ss26]

bro how can you say this withiut reading the thread, petition to ban all dnrcels? @chadisbeingmade

You didn’t even give a reason as to why eating no carb is better, you just spewed bullshit with 0 backing by saying carbs “signal body to look bloated”

 

[2 unknown slayer]

It's not fraud.

Maximized muscle glycogen via dietary carbs is needed to maximize MUR as low muscle glycogen will cause an increase in Supraspinal CNS fatigue causing MUR to drop.
Low glycogen will also cause an increase in excitation contraction coupling failure, reducing mechanical tension.
Daily carb intake matters more for maximize glycogen than only consuming pre-activity.

Motor unit Recruitment and Mechanical Tension are what need maximization in order to optimize how much tissue you gain.

okay so this is like the 5th time ive said it already so I’m not gonna respond to any other niggas who say shit like this, Carbs are very useful as a pre workout thing to consume to maximise mtor and help with muscle glycogen to work the muscles out well, like I said in the thread, I am not denying this

 

[alphamale82]

the insulin is not needed to produce more igf1

i never said it was, people who consume carbohydrates just simply have more igf-1 versus people who don't, this is consistently proven, someone whos always close to fasted blood glucose will not have the same igf-1 levels than someone who eats carbohydrates

So even if you had no insulin the anabolic affects from gh/igf1 would be very very similar then if you did have the insulin but that’s

no ones saying theres a massive difference but if you wanted to optimize your igf-1 levels and squeeze out any remaining growth you have during puberty then it makes 0 sense to not consume carbohydrates provided you're also consuming adequate amounts of protein & fat

but that’s withiut considering the amount of gh that will be blunted from the insulin.

like i said the body would simply respond by releasing more gh during night time provided you're not chronically elevating blood glucose or eating before bed
this would also depend on your insulin resistance

 

[2 unknown slayer]

i never said it was, people who consume carbohydrates just simply have more igf-1 versus people who don't, this is consistently proven, someone whos always close to fasted blood glucose will not have the same igf-1 levels than someone who eats carbohydrates


no ones saying theres a massive difference but if you wanted to optimize your igf-1 levels and squeeze out any remaining growth you have during puberty then it makes 0 sense to not consume carbohydrates provided you're also consuming adequate amounts of protein & fat


like i said the body would simply respond by releasing more gh during night time provided you're not chronically elevating blood glucose or eating before bed
this would also depend on your insulin resistance

Your still negletcting the point that the overall anabolic output will be larger with lower carbs, I can see why you say people with high carbs consumption have higher serum igf1 levels but that’s only systemic igf1

Your neglecting localised igf1 which is the real hard hitter, so yes maybe slightly higher systemic, but because insulin inhibits growth hormone release, even tho low carb diet may not have that much overall systemic igf1 production, the amount of free gh that the low carb diet does have massively overpays for that by binding to localised gh receptors in important cells like osteoblasts, chondrocytes etc

 

[tentatio]

okay so this is like the 5th time ive said it already so I’m not gonna respond to any other niggas who say shit like this, Carbs are very useful as a pre workout thing to consume to maximise mtor and help with muscle glycogen to work the muscles out well, like I said in the thread, I am not denying this

Bro you have no fucking clue what youre talking about jfl Yes you need glycogen to have big muscles and what's the best way to maximize that? Daily fucking carb consumption.

 

[Fleisch]

The fact that you make something yourself ≠ U shouldn’t consume it exogenously

Keep coping retard

 

[alphamale82]

Your still negletcting the point that the overall anabolic output will be larger with lower carbs, I can see why you say people with high carbs consumption have higher serum igf1 levels but that’s only systemic igf1

no it won't because if you arent chronically elevating your blood glucose this effect on daytime gh pulses is irrelevant and like i've said before you would just end up releasing more gh during sleep essentially making up for the blunted gh pulses

Your neglecting localised igf1 which is the real hard hitter, so yes maybe slightly higher systemic, but because insulin inhibits growth hormone release, even tho low carb diet may not have that much overall systemic igf1 production, the amount of free gh that the low carb diet does have massively overpays for that by binding to localised gh receptors in important cells like osteoblasts, chondrocytes etc

if your glucose metabolism is normal insulin isnt a problem

also systemic igf-1 is still supportive for growth? it would still increase local igf-1 production??

 

[2 unknown slayer]

no it won't because if you arent chronically elevating your blood glucose this effect on daytime gh pulses is irrelevant and like i've said before you would just end up releasing more gh during sleep essentially making up for the blunted gh pulses


if your glucose metabolism is normal insulin isnt a problem

also systemic igf-1 is still supportive for growth? it would still increase local igf-1 production??

systemic igf1 along with insulin both stunt overall gh exposure and no not just during the day, however localised igf1 doesnt stunt shit

 

[100%nt]

CARBS ARE NOT ESSENTIAL TO THE HUMAN BODY, AND CAN MAKE YOU LOOK WORSE
here’s why:


1. no types of carbs are essentially needed by the human body, no amino acids, no special proteins, nothing



2. “But saar it’s the body’s main source of fuel” yes bhai but that’s only in the circumstance that WE MAKE it our body’s main source of fuel, if everyone ate 0 carbs then people would say shit like “fat is the main source of fuel” so it’s entirely context driven


3. Carbs are meant to be a performance enhancer.

- As carbs have better affects calorie for calorie on energy,

- the insulin produced from the carbs go on to inhibit shbg short term making you feel and perform better,



4. Glucose can be made with protein through gluconeogenesis, not much glucose is actually essential so not too much Protein will be wasted


5. The high insulin levels with blunt gh release, cause insulin to be less sensitive for when it’s needed in certain situations, the insulin will go on to store more glucose in fat tissue making you look bloated

6. Ever wonder why males body fat percentage has been skyrocketing and is far out of the ideal range anymore? It’s because of processed carbs, signalling their body’s to look bloated and rely of carbs as main feul source


7. (Theory) ever wonder why the African tribes grow to be so tall? It’s because of their low-no carb diets not spiking their somatostatin so that their gh levels stay active


If you are genuinely consuming +50g of carbs daily it’s over, start low carb diet now or fall behind…

you can still do primal or whatever,and do high carb

If you eat lots of fruits/honey,whatever u can get lots of healthy carbs

I personally feel better when I do,so why not try high carb?

 

[1010]

you can still do primal or whatever,and do high carb

If you eat lots of fruits/honey,whatever u can get lots of healthy carbs

I personally feel better when I do,so why not try high carb?

avg goatis fan

 

[100%nt]

avg goatis fan

What do you mean avg Goatis fan nigger

I said that cuz i assumed he is going it

You have 30 posts,what do you know?

If I’m feeling good it must be good.im not eating raw meat anyway

 

[1010]

What do you mean avg Goatis fan nigger

I said that cuz i assumed he is going it

You have 30 posts,what do you know?

If I’m feeling good it must be good.im not eating raw meat anyway

i think i know more than you if you think carbs aren't essential

 

[100%nt]

i think i know more than you if you think carbs aren't essential

I said they are essential?

 

[1010]

I said they are essential?

"CARBS ARE NOT ESSENTIAL TO THE HUMAN BODY, AND CAN MAKE YOU LOOK WORSE" is this you saying carbs are essential? Think before you speak

 

[100%nt]

"CARBS ARE NOT ESSENTIAL TO THE HUMAN BODY, AND CAN MAKE YOU LOOK WORSE" is this you saying carbs are essential? Think before you speak

???

You’re thinking about the wrong person

I’m not the op

Rep me
So I don’t lost rep and post ratio
I wil rep you too

Because this is a misunderstanding

 

[atra]

CARBS ARE NOT ESSENTIAL TO THE HUMAN BODY, AND CAN MAKE YOU LOOK WORSE
here’s why:


1. no types of carbs are essentially needed by the human body, no amino acids, no special proteins, nothing



2. “But saar it’s the body’s main source of fuel” yes bhai but that’s only in the circumstance that WE MAKE it our body’s main source of fuel, if everyone ate 0 carbs then people would say shit like “fat is the main source of fuel” so it’s entirely context driven


3. Carbs are meant to be a performance enhancer.

- As carbs have better affects calorie for calorie on energy,

- the insulin produced from the carbs go on to inhibit shbg short term making you feel and perform better,



4. Glucose can be made with protein through gluconeogenesis, not much glucose is actually essential so not too much Protein will be wasted


5. The high insulin levels with blunt gh release, cause insulin to be less sensitive for when it’s needed in certain situations, the insulin will go on to store more glucose in fat tissue making you look bloated

6. Ever wonder why males body fat percentage has been skyrocketing and is far out of the ideal range anymore? It’s because of processed carbs, signalling their body’s to look bloated and rely of carbs as main feul source


7. (Theory) ever wonder why the African tribes grow to be so tall? It’s because of their low-no carb diets not spiking their somatostatin so that their gh levels stay active


If you are genuinely consuming +50g of carbs daily it’s over, start low carb diet now or fall behind…

retard

 

[alphamale82]

systemic igf1 along with insulin both stunt overall gh exposure and no not just during the day, however localised igf1 doesnt stunt shit

you're proposing the idea gh would have a higher anabolic effect than higher systemic igf-1, yeah sure

theres no studies comparing igf gene expression between high protein high fat diets and high protein moderate fat high carbohydrate diets that i could find unfortunately

but the net effect would depend on so much more stuff such as how much protein you're consuming, energy availability, insulin resistance, quality of sleep, these things matter way more than just whether you consume low or high carbohydrates

but we know that carbohydrates increase systemic igf, why not be smart about it and have everything else in check to get the best of both

anyhow you should be injecting hgh if you care this much to begin with

 

[chadisbeingmade]

bro how can you say this withiut reading the thread, petition to ban all dnrcels? @chadisbeingmade

Denied.

No need to read further than the title to know the thread is shit.

 

[moggin]

you're supposed to provide data to support your claims, why would anyone just believe this bullshit

 

[2 unknown slayer]

Denied.

No need to read further than the title to know the thread is shit.

jfl should have never invited this nigga to my amazing thread

 

[frostyjax]

Low carb is great for cutting and getting lean. High carb is great for bulking and building muscle. If you’re a skinny twink like me and want to put on some mass, low carb is not the move.