No Idea Why I’m Not Attractive

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nelts said:
Can you imagine being 16 on .org? I would’ve killed myself ngl
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nigga its literally worse being in college on .org:lul: just shows ur an incel and you cant even change anything about youre looks since ur too old unc
 
needlemax said:
nigga its literally worse being in college on .org:lul: just shows ur an incel and you cant even change anything about youre looks since ur too old unc
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Says the 16 year old who gets bullied. Yikes…
 
nelts said:
Today was the first day of college classes and I’m baffled by how few looks I receive from women— at least when I care to notice whether or not I receive them.

I’m 6’1, in shape, decent bone mass, above average PSL (HMTN average on this forum), good frame.

You might say my personality or accomplishments are lacking which contributes to my poor dating success?

Well, I’m top of my class with a 3.96 GPA, fluent in German, charity founder/director, Rugby player, and involved in every meaningful business club.

Im going insane not knowing what’s wrong with me and why im so undesirable. I feel like im a goblin or subhuman and it’s genuinely humiliating.

Please help or give advice.
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actually stay your hair you look bad with it like that and get it shorter and no one gives 2 fucks about how you can speak german and jerk off the teachers for good grades and how your in business class like that means anything
 
Look bro you said it yourself, it's the first day. Anything could happen. 1 day isn't enough of a sample size to determine what girls really think about you in the real world.

With that being said, you do have very harsh facial features (highly defined bone structure, but not in a prettyboy way) and your face shape overall is rather square due to your defined jaw and masseters (maybe hairstyle plays into this)

The lips look plastic-y and very Hollywood. Hard to describe but I'm sure other boyos can pick up what I'm putting down.
Probably not something you can change without filler, but they look like the lips of a man who's had a lot of plastic surgery in pursuit of keeping a "youthful" appearance, but it just ends up looking uncanny. They look very feminine on your masculine face.

Every photo also looks very serious. Cheer up bro, or don't act so serious. You look extremely unapproachable.
If your resting face is that serious and aggressive, people are going to think you're weird and they probably won't want anything to do with you.

Which is bad, obviously, if you want to potentially be approached by, or approach, girls.

You most likely have niche appeal to girls who like your sort of features. Your face is highly masculinised so you won't appeal to women who prefer a more feminine look. My advice would be to lean into this and play on your strengths.

This photo especially literally looks like a Botox "AFTER" photo

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It must be the way you're staring a hole into my screen. I don't know though.

Your rating is, I would say, accurate though. Definitely MTN+
Nothing glaringly terrible, sure facial thirds may be unbalanced and your features lack harmony but you have no "ugly" features, they just don't mesh as well as one may like. Definitely doesn't make you unattractive though and can be easily frauded or improved.
 
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Try to do small talk to any girl that you recognise here and there, in the hallways and shit.
 
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You literally said it yourself lol, you’re mtn maybe hmtn at best. Mtn level isnt enough to get stares from women, maybe once in a while you’ll receive IOIs and possibly approaches, but in general mtn level needs to put in some level of effort to get slays.

Htn and above is where you start getting a lot more IOIs and some approaches since you actually stand out from the crowd. Also 6’1 is a pretty good height you should definitely be gymmaxxing if you arent already, physique halo is 100% legit. Unfortunately no roids for you since you’re norwooding
 
jflsnowdzz said:
You literally said it yourself lol, you’re mtn maybe hmtn at best. Mtn level isnt enough to get stares from women, maybe once in a while you’ll receive IOIs and possibly approaches, but in general mtn level needs to put in some level of effort to get slays.

Htn and above is where you start getting a lot more IOIs and some approaches since you actually stand out from the crowd. Also 6’1 is a pretty good height you should definitely be gymmaxxing if you arent already, physique halo is 100% legit. Unfortunately no roids for you since you’re norwooding
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HMTN at PSL alone. I believe my height, frame, muscular build, and personality should heighten me to LHTN. I’m just looking for the one feature I can change to bring me to comfortable HTN.
 
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MogsMost said:
Look bro you said it yourself, it's the first day. Anything could happen. 1 day isn't enough of a sample size to determine what girls really think about you in the real world.

With that being said, you do have very harsh facial features (highly defined bone structure, but not in a prettyboy way) and your face shape overall is rather square due to your defined jaw and masseters (maybe hairstyle plays into this)

The lips look plastic-y and very Hollywood. Hard to describe but I'm sure other boyos can pick up what I'm putting down.
Probably not something you can change without filler, but they look like the lips of a man who's had a lot of plastic surgery in pursuit of keeping a "youthful" appearance, but it just ends up looking uncanny. They look very feminine on your masculine face.

Every photo also looks very serious. Cheer up bro, or don't act so serious. You look extremely unapproachable.
If your resting face is that serious and aggressive, people are going to think you're weird and they probably won't want anything to do with you.

Which is bad, obviously, if you want to potentially be approached by, or approach, girls.

You most likely have niche appeal to girls who like your sort of features. Your face is highly masculinised so you won't appeal to women who prefer a more feminine look. My advice would be to lean into this and play on your strengths.

This photo especially literally looks like a Botox "AFTER" photo

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It must be the way you're staring a hole into my screen. I don't know though.

Your rating is, I would say, accurate though. Definitely MTN+
Nothing glaringly terrible, sure facial thirds may be unbalanced and your features lack harmony but you have no "ugly" features, they just don't mesh as well as one may like. Definitely doesn't make you unattractive though and can be easily frauded or improved.
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I appreciate this. Solid advice. Lightening up on my state and resting face is definitely something I’m trying to work on in my pursuit to become more NT. What facial features can I change (preferably softmax)
 
Oliver12 said:
actually stay your hair you look bad with it like that and get it shorter and no one gives 2 fucks about how you can speak german and jerk off the teachers for good grades and how your in business class like that means anything
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Those attributes mean success which means money which ultimately in the end trumps looks
 
nelts said:
How are my genetics bad?
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You come from a lineage of low status slaves. You could have had better orbitals, maxilla, harmony etc. that would have increased your attractiveness. You got enough to reproduce, though.
 
IraniancelV2 said:
You come from a lineage of low status slaves. You could have had better orbitals, maxilla, harmony etc. that would have increased your attractiveness. You got enough to reproduce, though.
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Sooooo average genetics 💀
 
You look like a bit above average and wondering why women aren’t throwing themselves at your feet on the first day of college, are you autistic? That’s Chad shit buddy
 
htbslayeer said:
You look like a bit above average and wondering why women aren’t throwing themselves at your feet on the first day of college, are you autistic? That’s Chad shit buddy
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I’m just saying getting looks
 
nelts said:
I appreciate this. Solid advice. Lightening up on my state and resting face is definitely something I’m trying to work on in my pursuit to become more NT. What facial features can I change (preferably softmax)
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Demeanour.

If you were smiling in this photo, would be great for Hinge.
 
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No idea what your actual smile looks like, but this is what Grok came up with.

As you can see, quite warm and approachable.
 
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I will add a personal anecdote to this though.

6'3, white, blonde hair, average build, above average face.

Never got much in the way of female attention at uni.
 
nelts said:
How can I change my demeanor? Is there any tricks to not have a massive RBF?
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Have movement in your face, especially when focused or zoned out (basically, when not speaking or interacting with people)

Pout your lips sometimes, look around, do literally anything that involves deviating from a normal resting face.
I have to try to look serious because I'm so used to not keeping my face still. Might just be a hyperactive trait though, I don't know.
 
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