No such thing as ascension in 2024

[disillusioned]

The concept of 'ascending' via looksmaxxing made more sense during the mid & mid-late 2010s. This was a time where a normie could theoretically elevate himself to a high-tier normie via good diet, sterioids, gymmaxxing, etc.

However, this is all irrelevant in 2024 and onward.

Foid standards are so insane now that being high-tier normie is no longer good enough. The point in time in which a 6/10 normie (already eliminates a large chunk of men) could've scored by becoming a 7/10 chadlite is a bygone era.

In 2024, being a 7/10 chadlite is just the bare minimum. And ideally, you'll want to be 8/10 (top 1-5%) for having a strong chance at all.

Looksmaxxing was only ever helpful to normies who wanted a chance to become Chadlites. This is no longer relevant because of crazy foid standards, so you might as well not bother at all.

 

[nathan]

The concept of 'ascending' via looksmaxxing made more sense during the mid & mid-late 2010s. This was a time where a normie could theoretically elevate himself to a high-tier normie via good diet, sterioids, gymmaxxing, etc.

However, this is all irrelevant in 2024 and onward.

Foid standards are so insane now that being high-tier normie is no longer good enough. The point in time in which a 6/10 normie (already eliminates a large chunk of men) could've scored by becoming a 7/10 chadlite is a bygone era.

In 2024, being a 7/10 chadlite is just the bare minimum. And ideally, you'll want to be 8/10 (top 1-5%) for having a strong chance at all.

Looksmaxxing was only ever helpful to normies to wanted a chance to become Chadlites. This is no longer relevant because of crazy foid standards, so you might as well not bother at all.

Mtn's have good tinder success if they use high quality photos

 

[Deleted member 70955]

OP writes like someone who never leaves his room. MTNs, HTNs, and even LTNs are dating and having sex, unless you live in an insanely competitive region. Sure, being more good-looking increases the quality and quantity of your options, but it's not be-all and end-all.

 

[Bomber517]

The concept of 'ascending' via looksmaxxing made more sense during the mid & mid-late 2010s. This was a time where a normie could theoretically elevate himself to a high-tier normie via good diet, sterioids, gymmaxxing, etc.

However, this is all irrelevant in 2024 and onward.

Foid standards are so insane now that being high-tier normie is no longer good enough. The point in time in which a 6/10 normie (already eliminates a large chunk of men) could've scored by becoming a 7/10 chadlite is a bygone era.

In 2024, being a 7/10 chadlite is just the bare minimum. And ideally, you'll want to be 8/10 (top 1-5%) for having a strong chance at all.

Looksmaxxing was only ever helpful to normies who wanted a chance to become Chadlites. This is no longer relevant because of crazy foid standards, so you might as well not bother at all.

 

[lowtiernormiechad]

where are u living where every 1/20 men is a 6 psl+ model tier chad

 

[Bomber517]

OP writes like someone who never leaves his room. MTNs, HTNs, and even LTNs are dating and having sex, unless you live in an insanely competitive region. Sure, being more good-looking increases the quality and quantity of your options, but it's not be-all and end-all.

IT'S TRUE BECAUSE I SAID SO, YOU FUCKING UTTER INCEL SUBHUMAN! GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD!!!

 

[WeiWei]

OP writes like someone who never leaves his room. MTNs, HTNs, and even LTNs are dating and having sex, unless you live in an insanely competitive region. Sure, being more good-looking increases the quality and quantity of your options, but it's not be-all and end-all.

This. I want OP to preach what he says and do a livestream of him roping. I wanna see the rope around his neck

 

[Bomber517]

Mtn's have good tinder success if they use high quality photos

where are u living where every 1/20 men is a 6 psl+ model tier chad

This. I want OP to preach what he says and do a livestream of him roping. I wanna see the rope around his neck

YOU FILTHY FUCKING INCELS!! GET OUT OF MY THREAD, YOU PIECES OF GARBAGE! I'M SQUIDWARD, SO DO WHAT I SAID!!!

 

[Latinus]

IT'S TRUE BECAUSE I SAID SO, YOU FUCKING UTTER INCEL SUBHUMAN! GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD!!!
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[Bomber517]

He used to be a gigachad. It's sad that he's a truecel now. One of the worst descensions.

 

[theonewhocantascend]

OP writes like someone who never leaves his room. MTNs, HTNs, and even LTNs are dating and having sex, unless you live in an insanely competitive region. Sure, being more good-looking increases the quality and quantity of your options, but it's not be-all and end-all.

He lives in Iceland a place where there is more chads per Capita then average.
But tbh, skinny MTNs only slay obese ltbs in 2024.

If you are HTN and jacked then you might have a chance to fuck woman that are worth it.
Skinny, white and young.

 

[theonewhocantascend]

Looksmaxxing has always been irrelevant because most people are ugly beyond saving.

You need a good base to ascend to a relevant looks tier, I always say: life starts at millionaire HTN.

 

[disillusioned]

Mtn's have good tinder success if they use high quality photos

Jfl if you believe clickbait videos like this that are clearly designed to generate traffic and revenue.

 

[disillusioned]

OP writes like someone who never leaves his room. MTNs, HTNs, and even LTNs are dating and having sex, unless you live in an insanely competitive region. Sure, being more good-looking increases the quality and quantity of your options, but it's not be-all and end-all.

So fucking tired of this bullshit cope.

What normies actually have are BETABUCKS relationships where the foid keeps them around for fiscal security and to keep up appearances of normality. Meanwhile she's fucking Chad on the side and will probably divorce rape the normie once he's outlived his usefulness.

 

[disillusioned]

IT'S TRUE BECAUSE I SAID SO, YOU FUCKING UTTER INCEL SUBHUMAN! GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD!!!
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Nobody is going to debunk it.

 

[Deleted member 70955]

So fucking tired of this bullshit cope.

What normies actually have are BETABUCKS relationships where the foid keeps them around for fiscal security and to keep up appearances of normality. Meanwhile she's fucking Chad on the side and will probably divorce rape the normie once he's outlived his usefulness.

The normie couples I know are comprised of women and men of similar physical beauty that work to run the household. Nothing absurd like you described. And it's statistically impossible for every woman to have a Chad on the side when a Chad is so uncommon.

 

[disillusioned]

The normie couples I know are comprised of women and men of similar physical beauty that work to run the household. Nothing absurd like you described. And it's statistically impossible for every woman to have a Chad on the side when a Chad is so uncommon.

Women have no problem waiting months for the next Chad, the latter having no problem fucking a new woman every several days. It is absolutely possible.

 

[Latinus]

The normie couples I know are comprised of women and men of similar physical beauty that work to run the household. Nothing absurd like you described. And it's statistically impossible for every woman to have a Chad on the side when a Chad is so uncommon.

It's like when users say "your crush will never forget her first love/sex: the chad", when chads are rare, most women lost their virginity to a MTN at most.

 

[anthony111553]

Women have no problem waiting months for the next Chad, the latter having no problem fucking a new woman every several days. It is absolutely possible.

lmao complete delisuin, the mtn high schooler is def a betabuxx bro

 

[disillusioned]

lmao complete delisuin, the mtn high schooler is def a betabuxx bro

They are. They'll take them out to eat stuff, watch movies, buy them gifts, etc. It may be a lower tier of betabucksing, but it's still betabucksing.

 

[anthony111553]

They are. They'll take them out to eat stuff, watch movies, buy them gifts, etc. It may be a lower tier of betabucksing, but it's still betabucksing.

"lower tier" so basically you just decided that spending any amount of money on a foid is betabuxxing. Hell now the chads are betabuxing cause it costs money (gas) to get to a foid's house. It truly is over unless ur gigachad actor with a personal driver

 

[MoggerGaston]

@the BULL imagine being a 22yo lad on a Vespa in Rome in 1962.

Insane mog

 

[alien]

"lower tier" so basically you just decided that spending any amount of money on a foid is betabuxxing. Hell now the chads are betabuxing cause it costs money (gas) to get to a foid's house. It truly is over unless ur gigachad actor with a personal driver

Most guys invest more than 50% into a relationship. Usually way more than 50%. But OP is projecting his desire for Chad penis onto women. Women are mostly asexual. At least as they get older. Sex is like a novel new experience for teen girls. But then gets old quick to them.

 

[anthony111553]

Most guys invest more than 50% into a relationship. Usually way more than 50%. But OP is projecting his desire for Chad penis onto women. Women are mostly asexual. At least as they get older. Sex is like a novel new experience for teen girls. But then gets old quick to them.

no they don't espically not nowadays. More women are working and they still get with Mtns, it's clearly not cause of betabuxing

 

[alien]

no they don't espically not nowadays. More women are working and they still get with Mtns, it's clearly not cause of betabuxing

Why is it still a social custom for men to pay for a woman on a date then? Even after women entered the workforce. Women are leveraging the fact that men like them more than they like men to their advantage.

 

[anthony111553]

Why is it still a social custom for men to pay for a woman on a date then? Even after women entered the workforce. Women are leveraging the fact that men like them more than they like men to their advantage.

you think chad doesn't get the same treatment? you're not paying for a women on a date cause she's not attracted but beacuse of the brainwashing that a man should always do it no matter what

 

[alien]

you think chad doesn't get the same treatment? you're not paying for a women on a date cause she's not attracted but beacuse of the brainwashing that a man should always do it no matter what

Yeah I'm aware Chad gets the same treatment (unlike OP). We live in a gynocentric society. Men have been brainwashed to believe they live to serve women. And women have been brainwashed to believe they are queens and princesses. Royalty.

 

[theonewhocantascend]

you think chad doesn't get the same treatment? you're not paying for a women on a date cause she's not attracted but beacuse of the brainwashing that a man should always do it no matter what

Chad pays for the date because he feels comfortable being a provider.
Normie sub 5 pays because he has to, he brings nothing else to the table.

 

[anthony111553]

Chad pays for the date because he feels comfortable being a provider.
Normie sub 5 pays because he has to, he brings nothing else to the table.

both have to

 

[ElTruecel]

Ok

 

[rand anon]

Mtn's have good tinder success if they use high quality photos

Agreed but tbf playing with fire is ltn and frauds hard on tinder with faceapp

 

[anthony111553]

Ok

iceland is down bad

 

[theonewhocantascend]

both have to

So....the woman has to betabux your ass, to "prove" she is truly attracted?

It seems as if some guys on here have just found out that m/f relationships have always had prostitution undertones. That's mostly because women don't really like men, or sex that much. Most of them can't even nut while fcking sub chad

 

[anthony111553]

So....the woman has to betabux your ass, to "prove" she is truly attracted?

It seems as if some guys on here have just found out that m/f relationships have always had prostitution undertones. That's mostly because women don't really like men, or sex that much. Most of them can't even nut while fcking sub chad

it's got nothing to do with attraction, it's just sociatial nature and it will never be changed

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

He used to be a gigachad. It's sad that he's a truecel now. One of the worst descensions.
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To think he achieved that through bonemashing

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

Agreed but tbf playing with fire is ltn and frauds hard on tinder with faceapp

How does that translate when he actually has to meet the girl lmao

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

Yeah I'm aware Chad gets the same treatment (unlike OP). We live in a gynocentric society. Men have been brainwashed to believe they live to serve women. And women have been brainwashed to believe they are queens and princesses. Royalty.

Disney fantasies

 

[rand anon]

How does that translate when he actually has to meet the girl lmao

He prob doesn’t meet them, just content for his channel. Pretty sure he geomaxxed for some noodlefoid jfl

 

[DarkLoner94]

I strongly disagree as myself will ascend to high heavens from a 2.5/10 to a 6.

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

He prob doesn’t meet them, just content for his channel. Pretty sure he geomaxxed for some noodlefoid jfl

I remember his dog pill cold approach vid, he got brutally ignored by 90% of foids. Was kinda funny watching them leave mid comvo and him going “w-w-wait m’lady”

 

[pentamogged9000]

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

im gonna debunk your theory and show ascension is possible by becoming strong LTN

 

[Saint Casanova]

OP writes like someone who never leaves his room. MTNs, HTNs, and even LTNs are dating and having sex, unless you live in an insanely competitive region. Sure, being more good-looking increases the quality and quantity of your options, but it's not be-all and end-all.

MTNs and LTNs have sex with horrific abominations with no ass or tits whatsoever. Imagine wanting to reproduce with some Femcel jfl

 

[Deleted member 70955]

MTNs and LTNs have sex with horrific abominations with no ass or tits whatsoever. Imagine wanting to reproduce with some Femcel jfl

Indeed, but pussy is pussy. Just don't cream inside and you should be good.

 

[Darkeningstar]

I wish there was chad around to fuck them all. Instead I get to see couples where the male is not even average, sure maybe the treatment he gets is not as privileged, but I don't think they can complain

 

[flippasav]

I’m not in Amerimutland

 

[try2beme]

OP writes like someone who never leaves his room. MTNs, HTNs, and even LTNs are dating and having sex, unless you live in an insanely competitive region. Sure, being more good-looking increases the quality and quantity of your options, but it's not be-all and end-all.

They are getting play in competitive regions even

The mtn-ltn with top tier personality, life of the party is the real competition, money doesnt buy that and pretty girls arent absorbed in mens looks as much as incels pretend. Cant stand OP and his out of touch takes

 

[Veganist]

Ppl said the same back then, that hypergamy is out of control and sub 8 is incel these days.

 

[6ft4]

The concept of 'ascending' via looksmaxxing made more sense during the mid & mid-late 2010s. This was a time where a normie could theoretically elevate himself to a high-tier normie via good diet, sterioids, gymmaxxing, etc.

However, this is all irrelevant in 2024 and onward.

Foid standards are so insane now that being high-tier normie is no longer good enough. The point in time in which a 6/10 normie (already eliminates a large chunk of men) could've scored by becoming a 7/10 chadlite is a bygone era.

In 2024, being a 7/10 chadlite is just the bare minimum. And ideally, you'll want to be 8/10 (top 1-5%) for having a strong chance at all.

Looksmaxxing was only ever helpful to normies who wanted a chance to become Chadlites. This is no longer relevant because of crazy foid standards, so you might as well not bother at all.

This is a pretty legit take
The first mainstream incarnation of looksmaxxers which I would put as popping up between 2012-2015 actually could become slayers with roids, tats and tans and a MTN face with the right pheno.
2016-2019 was an extension of the same trend but it was more like HTN face was required now

I remember on the misc in 2014, people would show pics of guys cleaning up on tinder, either experiments or guys using their actual pics and the standards for what was considered a Chad were considerably lower than they are today

This would've been a full blown Chad profile, multiple tinder slays per week from 2012-2014 whereas nowadays it seems like only Maherfishes could get those results (if even)
Ffoids require status/social proof now and fuck through instagram more than tinder

2020 where foids began looking at Chads on tiktok all day completely shifted what was now seen as a goodlooking face and what was no longer anything special.

This new necessity for even more extreme face rarity just to be seen as attractive basically rendered gymcelling ineffective because the guys who met the new face threshold could get huge amounts of without any gymcelling, while the guys who failed to meet this face threshold could never get on par via gymcelling

Also most NTs are softmaxxed now so guys going from MTN to HTN is actually the norm and moreso a necessity to keep up rather than giving any real advantage

With that all being said, "non self improving, just exist game" MTNs still make up the bulk of males creampieing their girlfriends on a weekly basis

 

[descension]

OP writes like someone who never leaves his room. MTNs, HTNs, and even LTNs are dating and having sex, unless you live in an insanely competitive region. Sure, being more good-looking increases the quality and quantity of your options, but it's not be-all and end-all.

Finally a nigga with brain