Nofap is stupid

[badromance]

I went 4 days on nofap,then last night got bored af and masturbated but without porn.I noticed my erection was weak af n took me around 5 min to get erection then 15 mins of jacking off to finally cum.Today masturbated again without porn and got peak erection and it was all normal.Also i haven't been to gym in 4 days so maybe my T has lowered.I will try noporn,im on day 5 jfl

 

[Deleted member 281]

I went 4 days on nofap,then last night got bored af and masturbated but without porn.I noticed my erection was weak af n took me around 5 min to get erection then 15 mins of jacking off to finally cum.Today masturbated again without porn and got peak erection and it was all normal.Also i haven't been to gym in 4 days so maybe my T has lowered.I will try noporn,im on day 5 jfl

No fap is good if you already look halfway decent, it will force you to interact with women, since you will be so horny, this will result in you getting laid, if you're ugly, you're just gonna approach, get rejected, relapse, feel even more shit than when you started.

 

[Deleted member 209]

and why is nofap stupid?

 

[SomethingOff]

Noporn is good. Nofap is good as well, but I think a lot of the benefits you get from nofap can be obtained from noporn, simply because you're cutting out a shitty drug coping mechanism. With porn, you can force yourself to get hard as many times as you'd like thanks to the coolidge effect and keep going for hours, frying your brain, whereas if you fap without it you can be done in 5-10 minutes and move on. Any kind of sexual exhaustion where you fap multiple times within a short period of time is bad for you though, with or without porn.

I'm doing noporn now, but still aiming for nofap. It's a lot easier to get a good nofap streak going if you do a bit of noporn first, at least for me. I've had enough of this trash habit anyway. It takes tons and gives nothing back.

 

[extreme-overthinker]

Noporn is good. Nofap is good as well, but I think a lot of the benefits you get from nofap can be obtained from noporn, simply because you're cutting out a shitty drug coping mechanism. With porn, you can force yourself to get hard as many times as you'd like thanks to the coolidge effect, whereas if you fap without it you can be done in 5-10 minutes and move on. Any kind of sexual exhaustion is bad for you though.

I'm still aiming for nofap though. I've had enough of this trash habit. The way I use it, it takes tons and gives nothing back.

for me, the only noticeable benefit of NoFap was increased penile sensitivity. it's all in your head.

 

[SomethingOff]

for me, the only noticeable benefit of NoFap was increased penile sensitivity. it's all in your head.

So are you just doing noporn now or neither? Either way, I agree that cutting down fapping to a few times a week and quitting porn is probably gonna have almost the exact same effect full on nofap has.

But I'm always going to argue against porn. That shit is poison. Higher test guys are just more resistant to it, they can use it their whole life and never get any problems. It's the low test guys that suffer and get hit with ED when they are addicted to porn. Obesity and a sedentary lifestyle is on the rise, and that's what's blamed by doctors 90% of the time. Of course those are huge factors, but I firmly believe these factors combined with the ridiculous amount of porn usage most people have nowadays is definitely the reason for the massive increase in ED globally. And even if you don't get ED, porn gradually makes your sexual desires more disgusting, or even pathetic. There's a reason most people into the seriously extreme fetishes are 40+. They just can't get a kick from the vanilla stuff anymore.

Nofap/noporn isn't that important when it comes to looksmaxing. Most people aren't going notice a huge difference anyway. It's the people that are the most addicted that benefit the most from it. Quitting drinking when you only do it responsibly twice a week isn't going to have much of an impact, but quitting drinking when you're an alcoholic that drinks every day will have a huge impact.

 

[extreme-overthinker]

So are you just doing noporn now or neither? Either way, I agree that cutting down fapping to a few times a week and quitting porn is probably gonna have almost the exact same effect full on nofap has.

But I'm always going to argue against porn. That shit is poison. Higher test guys are just more resistant to it, they can use it their whole life and never get any problems. It's the low test guys that suffer and get hit with ED when they are addicted to porn. Obesity and a sedentary lifestyle is on the rise, and that's what's blamed by doctors 90% of the time. Of course those are huge factors, but I firmly believe these factors combined with the ridiculous amount of porn usage most people have nowadays is definitely the reason for the massive increase in ED globally. And even if you don't get ED, porn gradually makes your sexual desires more disgusting, or even pathetic. There's a reason most people into the seriously extreme fetishes are 40+. They just can't get a kick from the vanilla stuff anymore.

Nofap/noporn isn't that important when it comes to looksmaxing. Most people aren't going notice a huge difference anyway. It's the people that are the most addicted that benefit the most from it. Quitting drinking when you only do it responsibly twice a week isn't going to have much of an impact, but quitting drinking when you're an alcoholic that drinks every day will have a huge impact.

I used to watch porn on a daily basis a couple of years ago and I didn't experience any downsides whatsoever- neither mental nor physical. It is only when I started browsing sites like NoFap, YourBrainOnPorn, Return of kings, etc. that I started to really worry about what all this porn consumption might be be doing to my brain. And that's when I started feeling like shit. In essence, I created a problem in my head that just wasn't there. But I agree that the real problem is porn. The reason I'm on NoFap and NoPorn is to restore penile sensitivity.