Exactly, if you’re very recessed or have over-tier eye area you would be below normie-level anyways so my thread is still legit.
The Chad obsession in this site is actually pathetic, thousands in surgery when you could just get a good haircut, get stubble and hit the gym to be above average
i already knew what this guy posted when I saw the username on the front page. glad he didnt surprise me
You can be pretty good looking after all the mentioned above. I think a lot of people here larp anyway about surgeries
Surgeries are meme for most theyd never get them, people just larp about them here
“After reconstructing my entire face, I’ll take life by the throat bro, just watch
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Stubble is the ultimate cope for chinlets. It would still take me months to get a stubble though. It's brutal.
We talking about stubble, not beards that hide the lower third.
You forgot chewing/icehooding
This quote lives rent free in PSL autist brains
Yeah I can't even grow a proper stubble at 22. Stubble still great for chin height and width.
There’s loads of things you can sprinkle on but my advice is the main base.
Thats a shame tbf, takes longer for some.
The power of good haircuts and beards
Applies to western countries and most European countries.
Where you live is smart then
To be above average? You have no clue
I have a naturally high hairline and an abyssmal slavic eye area, browridge being the only decent part. I guess its over
. I'm still trying RTT.
This is such an underrated post, we need to spread this message to everyone. It will make everyone much happier and reduce all the depression here.
Agreed, these steps are the way to become above average if you’re normie.
I mean like you said: it'll put you in the game
Average in that specific community yes, but in places like U.K. and US you’d be above average with my steps.
Yeah but only like 10-20% of teens don't do all these 3 so being in the game means jack shit. I've seen a decent amount of subhumans that are lean, NT haircut etc and still get nothing. Also seeing 5,5 Abdul gymcel walking around like he has overdosed on laxatives with perfect beard and meticulously cared for fade get completely ignored despite jestermaxxing.I mean like you said: it'll put you in the game
Didn't think about that tbh. But I guess the majority in the USA is overweight so that would indeed put you above the competition.
Steroids and shoe lifts will take you way farther than the 3 you listed. Not just above average but they can take a normie to Chadlite.
I’m not talking about subhumans or try hard manlets, I’m talking about normies.Yeah but only like 10-20% of teens don't do all these 3 so being in the game means jack shit. I've seen a decent amount of subhumans that are lean, NT haircut etc and still get nothing. Also seeing 5,5 Abdul gymcel walking around like he has overdosed on laxatives with perfect beard and meticulously cared for fade get completely ignored despite jestermaxxing.
This will only ascend someone that has at least average height and average bones. And they won't be a slayer, but they'll probably be able to get a LTR tbh.
I guess it's good enough to live like a normie but why stop there? Why not go the extra step and fix whatever failos you can. The redpillers on this site shouldn't so strongly advocate against surgery.
Didn't think about that tbh. But I guess the majority in the USA is overweight so that would indeed put you above the competition.
All 5 together could take a normie to a chadlite sure.
Agree. What you listed would help with looking above average but it wouldn’t make you stand out. Steroids and shoe lifts can make an “above average” guy stand out which is important in bar/club type environments when going for ONS. A 5-6/10 normie can reach Chadlite by doing the 3 things you listed, steroids/shoe lifts, and other soft maxes like Retin-A/skincare and colored contacts.
does morrone have good zygos/cheekbones?
Bar the dispute we had yesterday, now I agree with you.
He is lean enough so they highlight nothing special though
All good dude. I think you would be a great candidate for steroids and you’re already using elevator shoes. There is a limit to how good you can look natty especially if you’re lean. It’s very difficult to look big in a shirt while being lean as a natty. You wouldn’t even need a crazy cycle - just 500 test for your first cycle and Test + Anavar for your second cycle. You may not even need a second cycle. I was never happy being natty because I felt like I had to choose between being big and being lean. Height and physique are very important for ONS and hookups which I why I am running SSL game along with other softmaxes (Retin-A, etc.)
Morrone looks good with facial hair because he is older also, if he was early 20s I think a short haircut and clean shaven would look better especially when going after younger girls.
Yeah I have the same issue, I'm 9% body fat and have an 8 pack but I'm not huge, my physique is only really impressive without a shirt, otherwise only moderately. The only way I can get bigger is to bulk put on fat. The only reason I'm hesitant to do roids because I'd actually be huge after using them and I feel like people would know, also the long-term health effects scare me a bit. I've been debating testosterone for about a year now.
Absolutely, face is more for LTRs and long term FWBs. Unless you have .00001% face, height and physique is huge in club/slaying environments, first hand have experienced that in frat parties where I have had some success because of my physique. If you're going for only ONS you're in the right investments, although fixing falios if you have any is also important.
All of that is so legit for slaying if you’re already normie, considering surgery without fully softmaxxing is retarded af
