Nose TRANSFORMATION = EYE ASCENSION?? Need Expert Opinion [WIDESET EYE FIX]

[ltntomtn123]

NEED HELP THIS PROBLEM IS NOT DISCUSSED ON THIS FORUM!
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I ALREADY MADE A THREAD BUT LITERALLY NO ONE RESPONDED WHEN I AM SACCRAFICING MYSELF POSTING MY OWN FACE IN HERE
ICD > 1XPFL IS NOT MENTIONED WITH SOLUTIONS ON THIS FORUM. OBO + TRIPOD IS NOT A FIX IF YOU HAVE OTHERWISE GOOD RATIOS @RealSurgerymax
I BELIEVE THE NOSE HAS HIDDEN RATIONS READ BELOW
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Since the nose is literally the center of the face i believe there has to be missing ratios in relation to tthe nose to every part of the face - The nose to cheekbones, the nose to eyes, an attribute of the nose to the jaw, an attribute of the nose to the eyebrows.

Whatever it is i need help:

My situation:​

I have good ratios:

• on my face ideal esr,
• good midface ratio
• good fwhr
• good ipsilateral alar angle
• regular / normal ipd

THE F*CKING PROBLEM:

• 1.2-1.25X ICD TO PFL RATIO (F*CK)

I THOUGHT IT WAS OVER
CHANGING MY NOSE = CHAGING MY ENTIRE F*CKING FACE

SLIMMING THE NOSE MADE MY EYE AREA ASCEND AND ALSO JAW AND MASCULINITY LOOK MORE PRONOUCED AND I SUBCONCIOUSLY APPEAR TO BE HIGHER INTELLIGENCE WITH A SLIMMER NOSE I LOSE THAT DUMB LOOK. (Subconcious biases being activated point to a missing ratio)]

This morph obviously isnt the best so it could look even betterr i did it in gimp with ZERO expereidcne.
This was defintely hopeful for me because i thought my eye area was holding me back the most but its really jus my nose.

@RealSurgerymax I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO MENTION HIM AND ASK HIM FOR HIS OPINION BECAUSE EVERYONE SAYS MUH OBO BUT WHAT IF YOU HAVE GOOD RATIOS IF AND YOU DONT WANT TO CHANGE IPD BECAUSE THAT WOULD FUCK UP ESR, MIDFACE RATIO, IPSILATERAL ALAR ANGLE AND PROBABLY WAY MORE THAN I REALIZE!
TLDR 1: How do you fix an unideal icd without altering good ratios. Aka: changing an ideal ipd.
TLDR 2 / Solution: If you have a bad nose: Wide set eyes / unideal icd can be saved by having a good nose.
Bad nose with wideset eyes = 'Drakecel'.
Widset Eyes with good nose = Slightly uncanny not a major flaw / goatiscel: ( Although he probably has something else unideal his eye area looks worse tham mine but similar icds)

Solutuon 2: Lateral Canthoplasty to decrease eye height aswell and possibly increase pfl to decrease icd to pfl ratio.
Question: Why does squinting help withz wideset eyes so much if it doesnt increase the pfl? Because its not making them look closer together.
Also Canthal tilt doesnt really help that much i also morphed that too the results were underwheling. So if you have widset eyes canthal tilt is mid unless you have large pfl.
MY PREDICTION OF GIANT AND MY ROUTE OF SURGERY: I actually dont think he will tell me to get an obo + tripod because that would mean shaving the cheekbones after and possibly doing a double jaw surgery in a pefect way to get the perfect midface ratio again and jaw implants to get a good ipsilateral angle again.
Like thats way too much. A simple rhino offers way more in terms of risk and reward here. But prove me work i would love to see morphs of me with closer eyes being better than that.

 

[ltntomtn123]

BUMP YALL HELP TAG USERS MOST EXPERIECNED ON ASTETHICS LETS FIND THE MISSING RATIOS!

 

[lurking truecel]

How is your nose wider then mouth, crazy work. Over and done because you cant change that with surgery. Making nose to slim will impair breathing and also just make it look fucked. and mouth widening looks awful. At best you can go to 1 to 1 ratio. Holy moly pepperoni

 

[ltntomtn123]

How is your nose wider then mouth, crazy work. Over and done because you cant change that with surgery. Making nose to slim will impair breathing and also just make it look fucked. and mouth widening looks awful. At best you can go to 1 to 1 ratio. Holy moly pepperoni

you cant make nose slimmer? are you sure ive seen it plenty of times

 

[lurking truecel]

you cant make nose slimmer? are you sure ive seen it plenty of times

You can, but very slighlty if you want it done in a manner that wont make you breath worse. And also it mostly your mouth that tiny. What's the width

 

[Outtakes]

The problem is your lips man

 

[ltntomtn123]

You can, but very slighlty if you want it done in a manner that wont make you breath worse. And also it mostly your mouth that tiny. What's the width

i know my mouth is tiny af but its all about porportions so i dont rly care and i looked it up you can definityl slim the nose. You saying itll make breathing worse i think is cope its just

You can, but very slighlty if you want it done in a manner that wont make you breath worse. And also it mostly your mouth that tiny. What's the width

They can reconstructe airways i mean MJ made his nose fucking tiny im sure it can be done

 

[lurking truecel]

i know my mouth is tiny af but its all about porportions so i dont rly care and i looked it up you can definityl slim the nose. You saying itll make breathing worse i think is cope its just

They can reconstructe airways i mean MJ made his nose fucking tiny im sure it can be done

Bocthed result

 

[ltntomtn123]

The problem is your lips man

yeah its a falio but tthe nose fucks with the eyes more so i need rhino although @lurking truecel kind is scaring me because hes saying rhinos cant be done that drastic whcih lowkey im looking them up and i cant find a lot of before and afters like my morph. Also i didnt change the lips in the after and i would be absolutely fine with myself if i looked like that i would no longer care ab the lips or anything i would be satisfed.

 

[ltntomtn123]

The problem is your lips man

also im recessed so i dont know if a djs would make my lips better because they dont have mouth corners if you can see which means that the lips are kinda being hidden. WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS RECCOMEND FOR LIPS IF I WEERE TO DO ANYTHING

 

[ltntomtn123]

Bocthed result

they can also get rid of the fat nose tip which i have like in this one
and in this second one and third one here look at their mouth to nose width ratio it changes drastically here and looks good

 

[Outtakes]

yeah its a falio but tthe nose fucks with the eyes more so i need rhino although @lurking truecel kind is scaring me because hes saying rhinos cant be done that drastic whcih lowkey im looking them up and i cant find a lot of before and afters like my morph. Also i didnt change the lips in the after and i would be absolutely fine with myself if i looked like that i would no longer care ab the lips or anything i would be satisfed.

Call it what it is, It’s your BIGGEST falio. It’s completely fucking up the features you were gifted.

 

[Outtakes]

Nose can be softmaxxed completely, I’m living proof. The lips on the other hand cannot.

 

[ltntomtn123]

Nose can be softmaxxed completely, I’m living proof. The lips on the other hand cannot.

JFL BRO ITS DEF THE NOSE WDYM LOOK AT THE FUCKING AFTER PHOTO I HAVE NO SMV IN THE BEFORE. MAYBE ILL JUST FAGMAX AND LIPLINER OR LIP GRAFT HAHA
Should i get lip filler to increase height too atleast? And what lip widening surgeries are there and why are they always botched

 

[alphamale82]

dnr

 

[ltntomtn123]

Nose can be softmaxxed completely, I’m living proof. The lips on the other hand cannot.

how did u softmax nose? help. plz dont tell me steriod cream no way show me before after

 

[maximuslaid]

NEED HELP THIS PROBLEM IS NOT DISCUSSED ON THIS FORUM!
PLEASE TAG ALL THE EXPERTS IN ASCETICS! ​

I ALREADY MADE A THREAD BUT LITERALLY NO ONE RESPONDED WHEN I AM SACCRAFICING MYSELF POSTING MY OWN FACE IN HERE
ICD > 1XPFL IS NOT MENTIONED WITH SOLUTIONS ON THIS FORUM. OBO + TRIPOD IS NOT A FIX IF YOU HAVE OTHERWISE GOOD RATIOS @RealSurgerymax
I BELIEVE THE NOSE HAS HIDDEN RATIONS READ BELOW
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Since the nose is literally the center of the face i believe there has to be missing ratios in relation to tthe nose to every part of the face - The nose to cheekbones, the nose to eyes, an attribute of the nose to the jaw, an attribute of the nose to the eyebrows.

Whatever it is i need help:

My situation:​

I have good ratios:

• on my face ideal esr,
• good midface ratio
• good fwhr
• good ipsilateral alar angle
• regular / normal ipd

THE F*CKING PROBLEM:

• 1.2-1.25X ICD TO PFL RATIO (F*CK)

I THOUGHT IT WAS OVER
CHANGING MY NOSE = CHAGING MY ENTIRE F*CKING FACE

SLIMMING THE NOSE MADE MY EYE AREA ASCEND AND ALSO JAW AND MASCULINITY LOOK MORE PRONOUCED AND I SUBCONCIOUSLY APPEAR TO BE HIGHER INTELLIGENCE WITH A SLIMMER NOSE I LOSE THAT DUMB LOOK. (Subconcious biases being activated point to a missing ratio)]

This morph obviously isnt the best so it could look even betterr i did it in gimp with ZERO expereidcne.
This was defintely hopeful for me because i thought my eye area was holding me back the most but its really jus my nose.

@RealSurgerymax I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO MENTION HIM AND ASK HIM FOR HIS OPINION BECAUSE EVERYONE SAYS MUH OBO BUT WHAT IF YOU HAVE GOOD RATIOS IF AND YOU DONT WANT TO CHANGE IPD BECAUSE THAT WOULD FUCK UP ESR, MIDFACE RATIO, IPSILATERAL ALAR ANGLE AND PROBABLY WAY MORE THAN I REALIZE!
TLDR 1: How do you fix an unideal icd without altering good ratios. Aka: changing an ideal ipd.
TLDR 2 / Solution: If you have a bad nose: Wide set eyes / unideal icd can be saved by having a good nose.
Bad nose with wideset eyes = 'Drakecel'.
Widset Eyes with good nose = Slightly uncanny not a major flaw / goatiscel: ( Although he probably has something else unideal his eye area looks worse tham mine but similar icds)

Solutuon 2: Lateral Canthoplasty to decrease eye height aswell and possibly increase pfl to decrease icd to pfl ratio.
Question: Why does squinting help withz wideset eyes so much if it doesnt increase the pfl? Because its not making them look closer together.
Also Canthal tilt doesnt really help that much i also morphed that too the results were underwheling. So if you have widset eyes canthal tilt is mid unless you have large pfl.
MY PREDICTION OF GIANT AND MY ROUTE OF SURGERY: I actually dont think he will tell me to get an obo + tripod because that would mean shaving the cheekbones after and possibly doing a double jaw surgery in a pefect way to get the perfect midface ratio again and jaw implants to get a good ipsilateral angle again.
Like thats way too much. A simple rhino offers way more in terms of risk and reward here. But prove me work i would love to see morphs of me with closer eyes being better than that.

Mirin formating

 

[ltntomtn123]

Mirin formating

thx dawg plz tag the homies i need help fr im close to considering edgeofrooftopmaxxing or ropemaxxing or overdosemaxxing

 

[alphamale82]

literally everyone knows the nose has to be around the width of the intercanthal distance

just get a rhino dont know why you sperged out over something so simple

 

[ltntomtn123]

BUMP YALL HELP TAG USERS MOST EXPERIECNED ON ASTETHICS LETS FIND THE MISSING RATIOS!

I KNOW MY NARROW LIPS ARE A FALLIO ASF I WOULD ONLY DO THAT THOUGH IF I CANT REDCUCE THE WIDTH OF MY NOSE TO THAT EXTREME! IF ITS NOT POSSIBLE TO REDUCE MY NOSE LIKE THIS HOW CAN PPL LIKE ME POTENTIALLY WIDEN LIPS @RealSurgerymax THIS IS THE NEXT LEFORT 3 BRO WE NEED SURGERIES FOR SOFT TISSUES. LIP GRAFT? MAYBE FILLER BECAUSE IF YOU SEE THE CORNERS OF MY MOUTH ARE TUCKED IN BC IM RECESSED LIKE WHEN I PUSH THEM OUT WITH MY TOUGE MY LIPS INCREASE IN SIZE SO MAYBE SOMETHING TO PUSH OUT MY LIPS OF COURSE LEFORT WOULD FIX IT BUT COULD SOMETIHNG SIMPLER FIX IT TOO

 

[ltntomtn123]

literally everyone knows the nose has to be around the width of the intercanthal distance

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just get a rhino dont know why you sperged out over something so simple

im adderallmaxxing thats why lmfao and i thought i had to get an obo so i wanted to ropemax this gave me lifefuel thanks for the ratio i now some ratio was off that i needed to learn lol im a greycel kinda
So the nostrils have to be within those redlines? why are they angeld though like that i dont get it? also i think the bullbus tip is fucking it up a lot and just the nose bridge

 

[alphamale82]

why are they angeld though like that

because eyes arent perfectly horizontal and camera angle affects the slant of your eyes

 

[Outtakes]

how did u softmax nose? help. plz dont tell me steriod cream no way show me before after

Accutane, retinoids and you’re gonna love hearing this, topical steroids!

Freshman year of college

Pre-Junior

Obviously could’ve been due to enlarged pores, but it’s a night and day difference for my nose structurally.

 

[Greyascension]

Ts a lot of words icl

 

[tomahawk]

Mirin

 

[ltntomtn123]

i also dont have a wide jaw so a wider mouth would look retarded on me maybe lip fillers.
do you see how the corners of my mouth are reccessed and its like circular i think i need a corner lip lift to make lip corners more defined like this:

First photo got combined sub-nasal lip lift + lateral (corner) lip lift. The sub-nasal lip lift shortens the upper cutaneous lip (the skin-bearing portion and the lateal lift reavels more of the "red lip" at the sides and lift the lip corners
The seonc patient had a corner lip lift / vermillion advancement - to increasde red-lip show at mouth corners, improve lip shape, and make the lateral mouth area more visible/wider

so yall it can be done to make lips wider and better

 

[vermicel]

I ALREADY MADE A THREAD BUT LITERALLY NO ONE RESPONDED WHEN I AM SACCRAFICING MYSELF POSTING MY OWN FACE IN HERE

I replied in the other thread, you spastic nigger
go check it out (I hadn't seen this new thread, so my message will be redundant with some of the reactions you've gotten here, but at least it comes with a morph)

 

[ltntomtn123]

I replied in the other thread, you spastic nigger
go check it out (I hadn't seen this new thread, so my message will be redundant with some of the reactions you've gotten here, but at least it comes with a morph)

bet thank you man i tried checking the rules and stuff to to mkee sure i weasnt violating tos! thank you

 

[RealSurgerymax]

NEED HELP THIS PROBLEM IS NOT DISCUSSED ON THIS FORUM!
PLEASE TAG ALL THE EXPERTS IN ASCETICS! ​

I ALREADY MADE A THREAD BUT LITERALLY NO ONE RESPONDED WHEN I AM SACCRAFICING MYSELF POSTING MY OWN FACE IN HERE
ICD > 1XPFL IS NOT MENTIONED WITH SOLUTIONS ON THIS FORUM. OBO + TRIPOD IS NOT A FIX IF YOU HAVE OTHERWISE GOOD RATIOS @RealSurgerymax
I BELIEVE THE NOSE HAS HIDDEN RATIONS READ BELOW
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Since the nose is literally the center of the face i believe there has to be missing ratios in relation to tthe nose to every part of the face - The nose to cheekbones, the nose to eyes, an attribute of the nose to the jaw, an attribute of the nose to the eyebrows.

Whatever it is i need help:

My situation:​

I have good ratios:

• on my face ideal esr,
• good midface ratio
• good fwhr
• good ipsilateral alar angle
• regular / normal ipd

THE F*CKING PROBLEM:

• 1.2-1.25X ICD TO PFL RATIO (F*CK)

I THOUGHT IT WAS OVER
CHANGING MY NOSE = CHAGING MY ENTIRE F*CKING FACE

SLIMMING THE NOSE MADE MY EYE AREA ASCEND AND ALSO JAW AND MASCULINITY LOOK MORE PRONOUCED AND I SUBCONCIOUSLY APPEAR TO BE HIGHER INTELLIGENCE WITH A SLIMMER NOSE I LOSE THAT DUMB LOOK. (Subconcious biases being activated point to a missing ratio)]

This morph obviously isnt the best so it could look even betterr i did it in gimp with ZERO expereidcne.
This was defintely hopeful for me because i thought my eye area was holding me back the most but its really jus my nose.

@RealSurgerymax I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO MENTION HIM AND ASK HIM FOR HIS OPINION BECAUSE EVERYONE SAYS MUH OBO BUT WHAT IF YOU HAVE GOOD RATIOS IF AND YOU DONT WANT TO CHANGE IPD BECAUSE THAT WOULD FUCK UP ESR, MIDFACE RATIO, IPSILATERAL ALAR ANGLE AND PROBABLY WAY MORE THAN I REALIZE!
TLDR 1: How do you fix an unideal icd without altering good ratios. Aka: changing an ideal ipd.
TLDR 2 / Solution: If you have a bad nose: Wide set eyes / unideal icd can be saved by having a good nose.
Bad nose with wideset eyes = 'Drakecel'.
Widset Eyes with good nose = Slightly uncanny not a major flaw / goatiscel: ( Although he probably has something else unideal his eye area looks worse tham mine but similar icds)

Solutuon 2: Lateral Canthoplasty to decrease eye height aswell and possibly increase pfl to decrease icd to pfl ratio.
Question: Why does squinting help withz wideset eyes so much if it doesnt increase the pfl? Because its not making them look closer together.
Also Canthal tilt doesnt really help that much i also morphed that too the results were underwheling. So if you have widset eyes canthal tilt is mid unless you have large pfl.
MY PREDICTION OF GIANT AND MY ROUTE OF SURGERY: I actually dont think he will tell me to get an obo + tripod because that would mean shaving the cheekbones after and possibly doing a double jaw surgery in a pefect way to get the perfect midface ratio again and jaw implants to get a good ipsilateral angle again.
Like thats way too much. A simple rhino offers way more in terms of risk and reward here. But prove me work i would love to see morphs of me with closer eyes being better than that.

This definitely doesnt need OBO.

Rhinoplasty with lateral wall osteotomies to thin the nose and sharpen the dorsal aesthetic lines is all thats needed.

 

[ltntomtn123]

This definitely doesnt need OBO.

Rhinoplasty with lateral wall osteotomies to thin the nose and sharpen the dorsal aesthetic lines is all thats needed.

IM YOUR BIGGEST FAN AND THANKS NO FUCKING MAN WANTS TO HEAR HE NEEDS OBO SOMEONE CREATED ME AN INSANE MORPH JUST NEED CORNER LIP LIFTS AND CENTER LIP LIFTS AND RHINO CAN YOU DO THOSE GIANT I TRUST YOU:
Look @vermicel actually made me hot i never thought it would be possible:
would i be mtn after? or what rating
@RealSurgerymax

​

 

[ltntomtn123]

This definitely doesnt need OBO.

Rhinoplasty with lateral wall osteotomies to thin the nose and sharpen the dorsal aesthetic lines is all thats needed.

youre really doing lefort 3 something that can changee a niggas entire face fkni goat

 

[RealSurgerymax]

IM YOUR BIGGEST FAN AND THANKS NO FUCKING MAN WANTS TO HEAR HE NEEDS OBO SOMEONE CREATED ME AN INSANE MORPH JUST NEED CORNER LIP LIFTS AND CENTER LIP LIFTS AND RHINO CAN YOU DO THOSE GIANT I TRUST YOU:
Look @vermicel actually made me hot i never thought it would be possible:
would i be mtn after? or what rating
@RealSurgerymax

​

You could get an extended rhino-glabella-plasty with our service.

Basically the glabella flap will get some ostoeotmies to thin it and look less ogreish.

 

[zaebalsya]

dnrd but yea
short nose make ur eyes look wider
long nose make ur eyes look closer
and whole nose structure affects how people see ur eyes as well cuz the brain perceives the nose and eyes together
many people say they started getting compliments on their eyes after rhinoplasty

 

[zaebalsya]

IM YOUR BIGGEST FAN AND THANKS NO FUCKING MAN WANTS TO HEAR HE NEEDS OBO SOMEONE CREATED ME AN INSANE MORPH JUST NEED CORNER LIP LIFTS AND CENTER LIP LIFTS AND RHINO CAN YOU DO THOSE GIANT I TRUST YOU:
Look @vermicel actually made me hot i never thought it would be possible:
would i be mtn after? or what rating
@RealSurgerymax

​

morph is crazy good actually lol

 

[ltntomtn123]

morph is crazy good actually lol

For fucking real i will kill someone to get that bro im gonna be researching mouth widening shit for the next few months

 

[cutecel1337]

all this to be mtn

 

[ltntomtn123]

all this to be mtn

That morph ain’t mtn ain’t no way atleast hmtn

all this to be mtn

and it’s way less than djs

 

[ltntomtn123]

all this to be mtn

I can ascend after these procedures too I’m 18 percent bf rn and I vape and an unhealthy and have shit hair as well ht would ascend me to htn maybe also a genio + jaw implants

 

[ltntomtn123]

I can ascend after these procedures too I’m 18 percent bf rn and I vape and an unhealthy and have shit hair as well ht would ascend me to htn maybe also a genio + jaw implants

my esr and midf

Accutane, retinoids and you’re gonna love hearing this, topical steroids!

Freshman year of college
View attachment 4375237

Pre-Junior
View attachment 4375236

Obviously could’ve been due to enlarged pores, but it’s a night and day difference for my nose structurally.

woah bro

Accutane, retinoids and you’re gonna love hearing this, topical steroids!

Freshman year of college
View attachment 4375237

Pre-Junior
View attachment 4375236

Obviously could’ve been due to enlarged pores, but it’s a night and day difference for my nose structurally.

woaj bro that looks insane hoseber I think it just looks like your nose bridge got more defined I need my alar base reduced but still that will still help my face I honestly should try it but I’m just worried that will damage the skin. I’m 23 don’t want to damage skin any more than I have to as getting the funds for this surgery will take time

 

[tweaqo]

How is your nose wider then mouth, crazy work

Brutal mouthpill

 

[vermicel]

I have shit hair as well ht would ascend me

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