Not getting surgeries is ABSURD.

[Deleted member 23472]

Some people can work fine off of softmaxxes alone but I cage really hard when people just completely write off surgeries. I think too many people are scared of becoming bogged or overestimate how far softmaxxing can take you. Heck a lot of people overestimate how far surgery can take you.

Only reason someone would write off surgeries is either ascending miraculously in puberty or some shit

 

[LooksOrDeath]

I've noticed that the people who say they don't want surgeries are the ones who need them the most.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

I've noticed that the people who say they don't want surgeries are the ones who need them the most.

Spot on, took me a while to accept reality.

 

[Deleted member 21735]

Without a good base, surgery is the only way to ascend to chadlite/chad

if u dojnt have a good base its over

 

[HarrierDuBois]

if u dojnt have a good base its over

God tier base or rot.
Outlier base or rot.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Spot on, took me a while to accept reality.

Always the shortfags who say LL is cope
Always the recessed guys who say bimax is cope

they just like the incel aesthetic

 

[DelonLover1999]

Always the shortfags who say LL is cope
Always the recessed guys who say bimax is cope

they just like the incel aesthetic

I’ve looked into LL and from what I’ve seen, it’s not a good bet. Way too much money, and you might not even be able to do some sports after. ffs, i’d rather be 5’8 than unable to play football.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

I’ve looked into LL and from what I’ve seen, it’s not a good bet. Way too much money, and you might not even be able to do some sports after. ffs, i’d rather still be 5’8 than being unable to play football.

The sports part is a legitimate concern. Most people won't live any different after the surgery though. As for money, though the cost is high, the return of being 3 inches taller is much more significant.

 

[DelonLover1999]

The sports part is a legitimate concern. Most people won't live any different after the surgery though. As for money, though the cost is high, the return of being 3 inches taller is much more significant.

we’ve all seen the +n inches height increase -> +x salary on average. But with ll it’s different because if you’re older than say 21, perceptive ppl will know what you did. You may have to switch jobs for the effects to take place, which would be unideal to some if they already have a good position.

At the end of day, it just doesn’t make sense, in my case. I could fraud 5’10 with lifts + sneakers and the field i’m going to pursue is not particularly lookist (academia, math), so in terms of salary it won’t make a difference.

bimax is law though, more oxygen means better thinking. Better sleep means better learning.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

we’ve all seen the +n inches height increase -> +x salary on average.

I was talking about life in general as well.

But with ll it’s different because if you’re older than say 21, perceptive ppl will know what you did. You may have to switch jobs for the effects to take place, which would be unideal to some if they already have a good position.

That is true. If you attempt the surgery your plan must compensate for this. You can't just say you lost weight like people do for facial surgeries.

At the end of day, it just doesn’t make sense, in my case. I could fraud 5’10 with lifts + sneakers and the field i’m going to pursue is not particularly lookist (academia, math), so in terms of salary it won’t make a difference.

Look at the full picture. Not just at salary studies. Going from 5'8 to 5'11 is huge. Not saying you should do the surgery though.

 

[PointOfNoReturn]

doesn’t fin have an effect on your children?

Increases chance of causing birth defects to male fetus sex organs
Guys on fin could potentially cuck their future son. It’s also why people on Finasteride are barred from donating blood, if used in blood transfusions for a pregnant women it will have the same effects.

 

[PointOfNoReturn]

Look at the full picture. Not just at salary studies. Going from 5'8 to 5'11 is huge. Not saying you should do the surgery though.

Just show up to your interview and workplace in lifts theory

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Just show up to your interview and workplace in lifts theory

@Amnesia max

think of the lifts as your real height

 

[DelonLover1999]

Look at the full picture. Not just at salary studies. Going from 5'8 to 5'11 is huge. Not saying you should do the surgery though.

it is pretty huge, I agree. But my itis has dated strictly short guys lmao, both shorter than me, so I can cope with that (she’s not a midget, btw).

And as I said earlier, I kinda have a philosophical problem with surgeries that go past what your genetic potential is.

 

[DelonLover1999]

Increases chance of causing birth defects to male fetus sex organs
Guys on fin could potentially cuck their future son. It’s also why people on Finasteride are barred from donating blood, if used in blood transfusions for a pregnant women it will have the same effects.

@HarrierDuBois

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

LL can get u decent height if u arent like 5'5 or shorter

5"5 dudes with solid face they can fuck some ltbs here and there

No doubt if they were 5"9 it'd help immensely.

Only those with literally no potential should give up due to height.

If ur like 5" tall with an average face yeah it's probably a waste of money

 

[LooksOrDeath]

it is pretty huge, I agree. But my itis has dated strictly short guys lmao, both shorter than me, so I can cope with that (she’s not a midget, btw).

if she's over 5'9 hmu

And as I said earlier, I kinda have a philosophical problem with surgeries that go past what your genetic potential is.

I get what you mean tbh.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

it is pretty huge, I agree. But my itis has dated strictly short guys lmao, both shorter than me, so I can cope with that (she’s not a midget, btw).

And as I said earlier, I kinda have a philosophical problem with surgeries that go past what your genetic potential is.

Why you don't owe shit to nobody. You ARE YOUR BRAIN. your body is simply connected with biologically circuitry. That's it.

Don't be held back by this nonsense. Obviously LL is brutal than and should be avoided though tbf

 

[DelonLover1999]

if she's over 5'9 hmu

jfl, she’s like 5’4

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

Only reason someone would write off surgeries is either ascending miraculously in puberty or some shit

Having a HTN or HTN+ face is an entirely different thing tbh. I just said for normies. Yah 5'5 was an overstatement. There was a thread about a guy who had an 8 inch LL that looked normal just 2 weeks ago. I am not saying someone should get that big of a LL, but it's still an option for turbomanelts (5'2 and below)

 

[DelonLover1999]

Why you don't owe shit to nobody. You ARE YOUR BRAIN.

there are two main philosophies on this: dualism and monism (I think those are the names in english). Most religions, including christianity, are dualist. But, I personally think there’s more to the body and face than just being an ‘enclosure’ for one’s mind and consciousness. You’re free to argue otherwise, though. It’s a contentious point anyway.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

there are two main philosophies on this: dualism and monism (I think those are the names in english). Most religions, including christianity, are dualist. But, I personally think there’s more to the body and face than just being an ‘enclosure’ for one’s mind and consciousness. You’re free to argue otherwise, though. It’s a contentious point anyway.

Do you think it'll damage your soul or something? I'm just trying to understand the ideological consequences for augmenting your body. Thats why i said "you dont owe anybody" I don't see what the drawback is, what are the repercussions?

I don't know about those beliefs so not sure exactly what you mean.

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

we’ve all seen the +n inches height increase -> +x salary on average. But with ll it’s different because if you’re older than say 21, perceptive ppl will know what you did. You may have to switch jobs for the effects to take place, which would be unideal to some if they already have a good position.

At the end of day, it just doesn’t make sense, in my case. I could fraud 5’10 with lifts + sneakers and the field i’m going to pursue is not particularly lookist (academia, math), so in terms of salary it won’t make a difference.

bimax is law though, more oxygen means better thinking. Better sleep means better learning.

Tbh u could always fraud ur height until u get LL. Just never get off ur shoes at work. U can easily fraud 3 inches maybe in 4. (Amnesia) and if u get a 5.5-6 inch LL, which is the maximum any decent surgeon in the 1st world would give u, normies would just think u were always that tall especially if they don't see u for like an year, as 1-1.5 inch height diff isn't that noticable in real life

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

Don't be held back by this nonsense. Obviously LL is brutal than and should be avoided though tbf

Why?

 

[Deleted member 20399]

I was born to be an ugly loser, no point dwelling on it

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Why?

Do you not know what it is?

Why is breaking your legs and pulling them apart with metal implants brutal? Figure it out brah

 

[12PSLsubhuman]

Do you not know what it is?

Why is breaking your legs and pulling them apart with metal implants brutal? Figure it out brah

Oh yah it's definitely brutal I didn't deny that. I asked why u said u should avoid them if u can go through the brutality

 

[DelonLover1999]

Do you think it'll damage your soul or something? I'm just trying to understand the ideological consequences for augmenting your body. Thats why i said "you dont owe anybody" I don't see what the drawback is, what are the repercussions?

I don't know about those beliefs so not sure exactly what you mean.

The dualist POV is that the body and the ‘soul’ (i.e. consciousness) are two separate entities. So, in that case, it doesn’t really matter what surgeries you do (but if you’re a christian you might be sinning through vanity).

On the other hand, a monist is someone who believes your consciousness sits physically somewhere in your brain, so there would be no ‘soul’. This opens a window to do any surgeries, too.

But I personally believe that part of our identity as humans is in how we look. Change too much and you’d be alienating yourself, in a way. This is just my opinion, btw. And in the future we might transcend our own physical bodies, too.

 

[Deleted member 1140]

i already had „plastic“ surcery before i was even blackpilled

had nose surgery for my deviated septum but only did it for aesthetic purposes and it ascended me slightly

normies think about this shit all the time meanwhile us blackpilled autists are scared for it

 

[DelonLover1999]

i already had „plastic“ surcery before i was even blackpilled

had nose surgery for my deviated septum but only did it for aesthetic purposes and it ascended me slightly

normies think about this shit all the time meanwhile us blackpilled autists are scared for it

the average adult male normie doesn’t really consider cosmetic surgeries. The avg woman, on the other hand, has at least thought about it.

 

[Deleted member 21898]

Unfortunately phenotype or harmony cannot be fixed with surgery
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No it's possible to fix phenotype. This nigger went from darkskin to lightskin with skinbleaching



If he wore contact lenses he can pass as mulatto

 

[DelonLover1999]

if she's over 5'9 hmu

how tall are you, btw?

 

[LooksOrDeath]

how tall are you, btw?

5'11.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

No it's possible to fix phenotype. This nigger went from darkskin to lightskin with skinbleaching

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If he wore contact lenses he can pass as mulatto

from high t to gay looking, descended ngl

In those certain pictures atleast

 

[DelonLover1999]

5'11.

good shit

 

[deadmanwalking]

No it's possible to fix phenotype. This nigger went from darkskin to lightskin with skinbleaching

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If he wore contact lenses he can pass as mulatto

Had more appeal when he was black, Over

 

[HarrierDuBois]

@HarrierDuBois

Gotta freeze my sperm beforehand then.

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

LL is too risky though

Cope. If I had the money and time, I'd get it as I am 184cm nighttime height. I am an ugly manlet.

 

[RandomGREY]

Good thread can’t believe niggas have all the info they need and won’t help themselves with it. It’s only a matter of time before this becomes widespread and more common than it already is.
Our time is running out and urgency to ascend is key

exactly. I think of this shit like entrepreneurship. Rn is the time to do it because normies discount/ don't know about maxfac surgery for men. This shit is already starting to spread on tiktok and before we know it well have a south korea situation on our hands. By the time it gets popular its too late. Good time to become a maxfac tbh.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Personally I’m not a fan of purely cosmetic surgeries. I don’t have any moral issues with them, It’s just that I would like to look as close to my genetic potential as possible, and not a hair better than that.

Obviously, you can’t know exactly how you would’ve turned out with ideal development: Maybe your cheekbones would’ve been more pronounced, which makes implants a rather natural option.

But as a rule of thumb for me personally, I’m only ever gonna do a surgery if I have a good reason to believe it’s gonna approximate what I could have looked like naturally.

I hope you grew out of this mindset and now want maximum handsomeness. Although I do agree I also feel a "tie" to my own face in a sense that I wouldn't trade looks with another person ever since it removes my identity from it. But as for what I can achieve with myself I will try to push that to its limit.