NYC maxillofacial surgeons that will do lefort 2?

[entropy137]

I'm consulting with Dr.Neugarten in NYC right now for bimax. He says my insurance will cover the surgery since I have verified severe obstructive sleep apnea. The problem is I want a lefort 2 and he said the best he can do is a high lefort 1 for 10mm. Anyone know a doc that will do lefort 2 advancement or have tips to talk him into it? I also consulted with another doc in the area who said that lefort 2 surgery is rare because typically it's either a lefort 1 or 3 that's done and lefort 3 is only on Crouzon syndrome patients.

 

[sorrowfulsad]

im jealous

 

[Deleted member 3020]

keep consulting with surgeons bro

 

[entropy137]

keep consulting with surgeons bro

I guess I'll just have to keep playing the numbers game, just like with tinder.

 

[ChanceAtChad]

I guess I'll just have to keep playing the numbers game, just like with tinder.

I also need a Lefort 2 or 3. Let me know if you find a surgeon and I’ll do likewise.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Why do you want a LeFort II? This is the rarest of the LeForts and really no less risk than a LeFort III. It is also the least stable.

If you don’t have the central midfacial hypoplasia Which is rare this is not going to be an aesthetic improvement.

Better off with LeFort III and will be easier to find a surgeon for LeFort III.

 

[Deleted member 10185]

Can you have bad maxilla and good jaw at same times ?

 

[subhuman incel]

how much higher are the risks of high lefort 1 compared to a normal lefort 1? also do you have any before afters of hgih lefort 1?

 

[Deleted member 7725]

High Lefort 1 is great tbh.

NYC sucks for blackpilled surgeons. I can’t even find someone who does good fillers around here.

The cost of living is so high they have to rely on spamming the most common procedures just to get by. Only reason I can really think of.

 

[Carl-o]

Why do you want a LeFort II? This is the rarest of the LeForts and really no less risk than a LeFort III. It is also the least stable.

If you don’t have the central midfacial hypoplasia Which is rare this is not going to be an aesthetic improvement.

Better off with LeFort III and will be easier to find a surgeon for LeFort III.

So Lefort 3 can bring aesthetics improvments even withojt hypoplasia.
What are the benefits that a normal person could have from a L3? Why would a normal person consider it as aesthetic procedure?

Ty for your work @RealSurgerymax

 

[entropy137]

Why do you want a LeFort II? This is the rarest of the LeForts and really no less risk than a LeFort III. It is also the least stable.

If you don’t have the central midfacial hypoplasia Which is rare this is not going to be an aesthetic improvement.

Better off with LeFort III and will be easier to find a surgeon for LeFort III.

My understanding was that it's significant ly less risky than lefort 3. I have under eye hollowness and a recessed nose bridge. I suppose a high lefort 1 plus infraorbital implants and a rhino will give the same result, but since the insurance is covering the cost, I'd rather just get a lefort 2 if possible.

 

[entropy137]

Can you have bad maxilla and good jaw at same times ?

Yes, I believe that's called a class 3 malocclusion.

 

[entropy137]

Why do you want a LeFort II? This is the rarest of the LeForts and really no less risk than a LeFort III. It is also the least stable.

If you don’t have the central midfacial hypoplasia Which is rare this is not going to be an aesthetic improvement.

Better off with LeFort III and will be easier to find a surgeon for LeFort III.

Does this qualify as midfacial hypoplasia?

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Does this qualify as midfacial hypoplasia?

My understanding was that it's significant ly less risky than lefort 3. I have under eye hollowness and a recessed nose bridge. I suppose a high lefort 1 plus infraorbital implants and a rhino will give the same result, but since the insurance is covering the cost, I'd rather just get a lefort 2 if possible.

So Lefort 3 can bring aesthetics improvments even withojt hypoplasia.
What are the benefits that a normal person could have from a L3? Why would a normal person consider it as aesthetic procedure?

Ty for your work @RealSurgerymax

Please notice I said Central Midfacial Hypoplasia:

Why do you want a LeFort II? This is the rarest of the LeForts and really no less risk than a LeFort III. It is also the least stable.

If you don’t have the central midfacial hypoplasia Which is rare this is not going to be an aesthetic improvement.

Better off with LeFort III and will be easier to find a surgeon for LeFort III.

Meaning infraorbital-malar region of the maxilla is not so retruded but only the central midface, basically the area around the nose.

Does this qualify as midfacial hypoplasia?

Yes this is actually Central Midfacial Hypoplasia so you are a rare candidate for a LeFort II.

Central Midfacial Hypoplasia is more common in Asians.