OLD is such dogshit tbh regardless if you're chad or not

[WishIwasChico]

Like you have to legit dumpster dive regardless of your PSL or SMV. The amount of LTN or MTN's i see daily with HTB's or MTB's IRL is insane. Being non-NT is one of the worst things ever. If NT, you can legit be MTN and still get MTB at least gf or even as someone posted a MTN slaying on here today and yesterday (see here: https://looksmax.org/threads/biggest-slayer-in-my-town-is-high-tier-normie.634529/#post-10272112 and https://looksmax.org/threads/chadlite-doesnt-even-have-to-try.641813/#post-10261333)
Fuck, it's insane...

I saw a post of Amnesia getting rejected by a MTB, JFL... (See: https://looksmax.org/threads/left-on-delivered-on-date-night.637480/page-2#post-10208664) I made a male model (i forgot his name) and had LTB's unmatch and give him shit if he asked for sex or they would just ghost.

OLD is not the same as IRL, and it's legit a waste of time tbh unless you are legit top 5% like Niko or Amnesia. Still even then you could argue it's a waste of time.

I also know a girl who I saw on tinder before who's a stacylite and she legit used to get fucked by chav MTN's, yet on tinder she will be chad only. When i was 18 i followed some girl on insta and Dm'd her and she ignored my message but accepted the follow but didn't follow back. Anyways, i went to the club like two weeks later and she said 'i was so hot' and approached me and i ended up fucking her outside JFL.

Fuck it's crazy as OLD and IRL can be so different... NT pill is one of the most underrated pills here if you are normie and not subhuman.

If Jack Denmo was not NT he'd be a KHHV and say it's over because he isn't chad, yet he has probs fucked more girls than chadlites on this forum even though he looks like shit (see here: https://looksmax.org/threads/jack-denmo-is-living-proof-of-nt.640448/#post-10244654)

Also, a prove of OLD and its bs. This guy and his gf both set up a tinder account in which his gf got 100 likes in an hour and he got 1 like which
autists here would fail to explain (see: https://looksmax.org/threads/left-on-delivered-on-date-night.637480/page-2#post-10208664)

Yet why is OLD so bad? I made a thread discussing my thoughts which you can find here ---> https://looksmax.org/threads/why-ti...-brutal-looking-at-the-bigger-picture.640011/

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Approach female in person

//Nick Wilde

 

[WishIwasChico]

Approach female in person

//Nick Wilde

No don't cold approach, did you not see what happened to 1stpersonapproacher JFL. I know he was awkward but cold approach doesn't work unless you're extremely attractive. Your best bet is to have a social circle and some status, then things usually just fall into place.

 

[New Poster]

1. Take advantage of school social groups when you're still young
2. Cold approach if you're older or isolated
3. OLD as supplemental at most to these other strategies

 

[WishIwasChico]

1. Take advantage of school social groups when you're still young
2. Cold approach if you're older or isolated
3. OLD as supplemental at most to these other strategies

Social circle is a must, tbh unless your chadlite plus there's literally no point using OLD, unless you're really good at taking photos and stuff.

 

[the BULL]

Cope have you not seen maherfish threads. High quality girls are there you Just Need to be chad. Even i got some High quality girl

 

[New Poster]

Social circle is a must, tbh unless your chadlite plus there's literally no point using OLD, unless you're really good at taking photos and stuff.

Wait until you hit 25 and everyone is consumed with work , relationships, etc. Social circles are hard to maintain as you get older. Cold approach becomes necessary part a certain point.

 

[Lawton88]

Like you have to legit dumpster dive regardless of your PSL or SMV. The amount of LTN or MTN's i see daily with HTB's or MTB's IRL is insane. Being non-NT is one of the worst things ever. If NT, you can legit be MTN and still get MTB at least gf or even as someone posted a MTN slaying on here today and yesterday (see here: https://looksmax.org/threads/biggest-slayer-in-my-town-is-high-tier-normie.634529/#post-10272112 and https://looksmax.org/threads/chadlite-doesnt-even-have-to-try.641813/#post-10261333)
Fuck, it's insane...

I saw a post of Amnesia getting rejected by a MTB, JFL... (See: https://looksmax.org/threads/left-on-delivered-on-date-night.637480/page-2#post-10208664) I made a male model (i forgot his name) and had LTB's unmatch and give him shit if he asked for sex or they would just ghost.

OLD is not the same as IRL, and it's legit a waste of time tbh unless you are legit top 5% like Niko or Amnesia. Still even then you could argue it's a waste of time.

I also know a girl who I saw on tinder before who's a stacylite and she legit used to get fucked by chav MTN's, yet on tinder she will be chad only. When i was 18 i followed some girl on insta and Dm'd her and she ignored my message but accepted the follow but didn't follow back. Anyways, i went to the club like two weeks later and she said 'i was so hot' and approached me and i ended up fucking her outside JFL.

Fuck it's crazy as OLD and IRL can be so different... NT pill is one of the most underrated pills here if you are normie and not subhuman.

If Jack Denmo was not NT he'd be a KHHV and say it's over because he isn't chad, yet he has probs fucked more girls than chadlites on this forum even though he looks like shit (see here: https://looksmax.org/threads/jack-denmo-is-living-proof-of-nt.640448/#post-10244654)

Not sure where you are at but here females in their 20s usually expect HTNs or better. Even 5/10 females that age look at 5/10 males as undesirable males and beneath them.

 

[MoggerGaston]

1. Take advantage of school social groups when you're still young
2. Cold approach if you're older or isolated
3. OLD as supplemental at most to these other strategies

cold approach simply doesnt work.

its social circle or death

 

[WishIwasChico]

Cope have you not seen maherfish threads. High quality girls are there you Just Need to be chad. Even i got some High quality girl

Bro you're literally talking about Maher get fucking real. He is literally top 0.0001% so his results are unrealistic. I'm talking about everyday people not PSL gods that are rarer than fucking diamonds. Due to their rarity they have literally zero ecological validity. It's like me conducting a psychology experiment with a person who is top 0.000001% in looks and then trying to generalise that to others, it make no sense.

 

[New Poster]

cold approach simply doesnt work.

its social circle or death

Tell that to my gf

 

[WishIwasChico]

Not sure where you are at but here females in their 20s usually expect HTNs or better. Even 5/10 females that age look at 5/10 males as undesirable males and beneath them.

Uk and I see it all the time, like literally all the time. I saw a LTN with a HTB on fb and he is true LTN as well, which inspired me to make this post. As if she was on tinder no way would she swipe on him and he isn't rich nor status maxxed.

 

[WishIwasChico]

Tell that to my gf

What's your psl? and elab on how you approached her

 

[the BULL]

Bro you're literally talking about Maher get fucking real. He is literally top 0.0001% so his results are unrealistic. I'm talking about everyday people not PSL gods that are rarer than fucking diamonds. Due to their rare they have literally zero ecological validity. It's like me conducting a psychology experiment with a person who top 0.000001% in looks and then trying to generalise that to others, it make no sense.

You said that it's a waste of time whether you're chad or not but it's clearly cope. Yes Maher Is the best but everyday chadlite get good amount of High quality girls with 0 effort too. Meanwhile cold approaching Is a pain in the ass. And i saw a lot of normies getting rejected irl too anyway

 

[St.TikTokcel]

cold approach simply doesnt work.

its social circle or death

Grannymaxxing

 

[WishIwasChico]

You said that it's a waste of time whether you're chad or not but it's clearly cope. Yes Maher Is the best but everyday chadlite get good amount of High quality girls with 0 effort too. Meanwhile cold approaching Is a pain in the ass. And i saw a lot of normies getting rejected irl too anyway

Yes chadlite does do well i will not deny that at all and i agree that it can argued as cope as the blackpill is indeed real and 1 rule for chad and 1 rule for another. I'm just saying in general unless you are true chadlite plus OLD is a massive waste of time. But the thing is, if you're chadlite, you probs wouldn't need to use OLD anyways, as you'd have a lot of girls IRL high quality...

 

[WishIwasChico]

You said that it's a waste of time whether you're chad or not but it's clearly cope. Yes Maher Is the best but everyday chadlite get good amount of High quality girls with 0 effort too. Meanwhile cold approaching Is a pain in the ass. And i saw a lot of normies getting rejected irl too anyway

Yes no way would I would recommend cold approach unless you chadlite + but then again, same argument, why on earth would a chadlite cold approach? Wouldn't need to...

 

[New Poster]

What's your psl? and elab on how you approached her

I'm exactly 92th percentile in attractiveness if you consider height, frame and face. Looks play a big role in your success in anything of course. I approached in line in a coffee shop. I basically stood really close to her and she moved back into me as we standing there and I grabbed her and then we started talking. Lines are great places to cold approach. You can gauge pretty easily if someone is interested by their body language.

 

[Deleted member 16501]

Women look at OLD the way men look at porn- a buffet of delights

Just like I get greedy when I coom to porn- I want the best pic the best vid, and I won't stop searching till I get it....women will not stop swiping guys out until they find exactly what they deem the ideal match

 

[Lawton88]

Uk and I see it all the time, like literally all the time. I saw a LTN with a HTB on fb and he is true LTN as well, which inspired me to make this post. As if she was on tinder no way would she swipe on him and he isn't rich nor status maxxed.

Not sure about UK but hear people here saying hypergamy is crazy there. I live in Florida and most looksmatched or couples you see the female is better looking if the guy isn't rich is usually people that hooked up in high school or early college days. The hypergamy is crazy with single females out of college here.

 

[WishIwasChico]

I'm exactly 92th percentile in attractiveness if you consider height, frame and face. Looks play a big role in your success in anything of course. I approached in line in a coffee shop. I basically stood really close to her and she moved back into me as we standing there and I grabbed her and then we started talking. Lines are great places to cold approach. You can gauge pretty easily if someone is interested by their body language.

Top 8% so makes sense. But for the other 92% of people and the probs you reading this are one of them statistically - don't try this... JFL.

 

[the BULL]

Yes chadlite does do well i will not deny that at all and i agree that it can argued as cope as the blackpill is indeed real and 1 rule for chad and 1 rule for another. I'm just saying in general unless you are true chadlite plus OLD is a massive waste of time. But the thing is, if you're chadlite, you probs wouldn't need to use OLD anyways, as you'd have a lot of girls IRL high quality...

No there are many ways in which you can be chadlite and still 0 social circle. Like no one in my Town could meet a girl by "social circle" unless it's at work or at the Gym or club, that's It, there's literally no One outside. Most used dating app Is Instagram anyway. And most couples are looksmatched those normies were Just so much of an anomaly i still Remember them.

 

[WishIwasChico]

Not sure about UK but hear people here saying hypergamy is crazy there. I live in Florida and most looksmatched or comes you see the female is better looking if the guy isn't rich is usually people that hooked up in high school or early college days. The hypergamy is crazy with single females out of college here.

Yes hypergamy is crazy here, but you did see MTN's do well, most i've noticed are giga NT and socialcircle maxxed. If you're an aspie like me you have to just rot.

 

[the BULL]

Top 8% so makes sense. But for the other 92% of people and the probs you reading this are one of them statistically - don't try this... JFL.

He's not top 8% if he thinks old is a side way to meet girls
Probably coping with big size

 

[WishIwasChico]

No there are many ways in which you can be chadlite and still 0 social circle. Like no one in my Town could meet a girl by "social circle" unless it's at work or at the Gym or club, that's It, there's literally no One outside. Most used dating app Is Instagram anyway. And most couples are looksmatched those normies were Just so much of an anomaly i still Remember them.

Yes that is true to be fair and very naïve of me so good job on pointing that out.

 

[New Poster]

Top 8% so makes sense. But for the other 92% of people and the probs you reading this are one of them statistically - don't try this... JFL.

Yeah, part of it is looks obv, but there's more to it. Being assertive enough to force the issue and being nt enough to read signals also matter. If I were the average lookism user, I would never have stood close, held eye contact or done anything to force the issue, and I certainly wouldn't have been able to read her interest when she stepped back into me. Nor would I have had the confidence to hold her. And I definitely wouldn't have had anything to say. These things matter. It's not all looks and the looks threshold is much lower than you think.

 

[WishIwasChico]

Yeah, part of it is looks obv, but there's more to it. Being assertive enough to force the issue and being nt enough to read signals also matter. If I were the average lookism user, I would never have stood close, held eye contact or done anything to force the issue, and I certainly wouldn't have been able to read her interest when she stepped back into me. Nor would I have had the confidence to hold her. And I definitely wouldn't have had anything to say. These things matter. It's not all looks and the looks threshold is much lower than you think.

I agree, it doesn't matter if you are good looking to her, if you act weird she'll get creeped out and reject you. Being able to read the room etc... is such a big advantage in all aspects of life especially with dating.

 

[WishIwasChico]

I'm not trying to cope here, i want to make that clear. If you are very good looking to women you will DO WELL on OLD, but if you are in the normie range from LTN-HTN, you are not gonna get your looks match if you are HTN as a HTB can get a chadlite etc... and will have to deal with constant ghosting and getting swiped left on all while chad just says 'come over?'

Also, if you are a normie, which statistically you most likely are, the average woman will probably not find you attractive which is a bitter pill to swallow especially when she probably looks like shit herself.

From this graph it appears that only 7% percent of men are seen as somewhat attractive or more.

 

[WishIwasChico]

Literally just saw this post JFL https://looksmax.org/threads/brutally-rate-this-subhuman-from-my-school-who-has-a-gf.642662/

I'm not saying she looks good but i am saying i'd lay my life she would never swipe on him if on tinder as she easily get guys that mog him for a pump and dump. This is the shit i'm talking about. I see guys like him all the time with gfs who wouldn't even get a like off a tranny on OLD.

 

[nobodyspecial369]

this is very true. i’ve experienced this myself when chadfishing. i was confused why i was still having such a hard time. irl is way way easier

guys need to give up online dating. the ratio is 6 guys to every 1 girl. even chads have to struggle, not worth it

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Hasn’t reflected my life experience at all

I can slay online but am basically truecel irl


Haven’t even kissed a girl I didn’t meet online in years

 

[WishIwasChico]

this is very true. i’ve experienced this myself when chadfishing. i was confused why i was still having such a hard time. irl is way way easier

guys need to give up online dating. the ratio is 6 guys to every 1 girl. even chads have to struggle, not worth it

The ratio is 9 to 1 male/female ratio in the Uk, i'm not sure about other countries however.