Older man (mid 40's) Statts. On Tinder Dating lifestyle. In graph.

[eduardkoopman]

What is he trying to sell?

One of the few honest posts, one sees online.
The dude has nothing to sell, and sells nothing.
he just kept track of his statts.
Nice, how that man did that, and shared it. Obviously, on cuck-Reddit the post got deleted/flagged by the mods. WTF, can't even share statts.

 

[Deleted member 275]

500 matches / 100 dates is actually an insane match/date ratio wtf.

My match->date conversion is like 100 matches/ 1 date

 

[eduardkoopman]

500 matches / 100 dates is actually an insane match/date ratio wtf.

My match->date conversion is like 100 matches/ 1 date

That's the difference, with aging and the age bracket 35 - 50.

Like, most here are:
* late teens and 20's.
And in that age bracket. womens have like 100x more SMV and also LTR relationship value, than same aged men and any aged men.

But in 30's that shifts. EVEN if a man, ages normally.
The playing field among same aged peers, between men and women, become more even. FOR LTR relationship value.
Because she is basically an infertile person, and he is not. And a bunch of other reasons.

BUT. There is no/little good feeling about it. I notice. Because OMG, it's not a pretty landscape, at all.
I can only see it useing as a time-waist, meeting up for some sexual fun. BUT not more than that.

ALL, that matters imo, as an older single man in 30's or 40's. if you can still get with single 20-something year olds.

The landscape of 30-something year old women. is, BESIDES the faded looks and infertility, like this:
* single moms most of the time. Which is a massive risk for a dude, and for me a deal breaker for sure. Firstly she has limited tim, because kids take up alot of time and is has to be her nr. 1 priority. 2ndly, you will become attached to the child andwhen she breaks up with you or you with her that will be hard to lose all contact and invested time/energy with that child. And a bunch of other stuff, money related,and so on.

There's no joy or statisfaction for a single childless man in that landscape. Besides maybe some sexual reliefs.

It's the dumbest of copes. For dudes to feel proud for getting relationship(s) in that single mom crowd; asif it means something. It's mainly sad imo. Although I do give a free pass, for dudes in their 50's and beyond that age; to go there. because at that age that/most dudes look completly hideous, so at least you are dating/relationship up in looks plenty still.
But for a 30's year old single man without kids, to go in tthat age bracket with single moms. Not cool. Maybe only understandeable-ish; if she can (still) give you a child. Than it makes some snese. But plenty are in- or low fertile, and lesser quality eggs, so not ideal at all.

 

[Deleted member 275]

That's the difference, with aging and the age bracket 35 - 50.

Like, most here are:
* late teens and 20's.
And in that age bracket. womens have like 100x more SMV and also LTR relationship value, than same aged men and any aged men.

A shitton of young women don't even seem to want relationships and are fine with hooking up every once in a while or being one of many women of some chad fuckbuddy.

But in 30's that shifts. EVEN if a man, ages normally.
The playing field among same aged peers, between men and women, become more even. FOR LTR relationship value.
Because she is basically an infertile person, and he is not. And a bunch of other reasons.

BUT. There is no/little good feeling about it. I notice. Because OMG, it's not a pretty landscape, at all.
I can only see it useing as a time-waist, meeting up for some sexual fun. BUT not more than that.

ALL, that matters imo, as an older single man in 30's or 40's. if you can still get with single 20-something year olds.

Some women look really good into their 30s, 40s (rarely). But those women are most likely going to be in relationships and not on the dating market I am guessing.

The landscape of 30-something year old women. is, BESIDES the faded looks and infertility, like this:
* single moms most of the time. Which is a massive risk for a dude, and for me a deal breaker for sure. Firstly she has limited tim, because kids take up alot of time and is has to be her nr. 1 priority. 2ndly, you will become attached to the child andwhen she breaks up with you or you with her that will be hard to lose all contact and invested time/energy with that child. And a bunch of other stuff, money related,and so on.

There's no joy or statisfaction for a single childless man in that landscape. Besides maybe some sexual reliefs.

Yeah single moms are good for sex if they still look decent I guess. Stay away in the case of serious relationships.

It's the dumbest of copes. For dudes to feel proud for getting relationship(s) in that single mom crowd; asif it means something. It's mainly sad imo. Although I do give a free pass, for dudes in their 50's and beyond that age; to go there. because at that age that/most dudes look completly hideous, so at least you are dating/relationship up in looks plenty still.
But for a 30's year old single man without kids, to go in tthat age bracket with single moms. Not cool. Maybe only understandeable-ish; if she can (still) give you a child. Than it makes some snese. But plenty are in- or low fertile, and lesser quality eggs, so not ideal at all.

Do you think at some point you should just escortmax? definitely in your 50s you should have enough money for that.

Singlemoms at that age.. their children will be out of the house already and not play a role in her daily life. Might even be able to LTR one for some more intimate relationship at that point I guess.


I think the biggest struggle for men is to find a decent women to have children with. Basically:
1)Good looks.
2)Good personality.
3)Young. (<30yo tbh)
4)No previous children.

This combination is extremely hard to get. If you forego your own wish to reproduce as a guy, or already have reproduced, it becomes easier tbh.

 

[Littleboy]

Just did some math.

He was dating 35-50 age range.

$75 average cost per date. He had 100 dates: $7500. And he had intemacy with probably 30-35 max..
That's a cost of 200-250 USD per person for sex (and not prime women, but 35-50 years old women). NOT accounting for time invested to arrange dates, even. Financially speaking if only after sex and not validation or a serious LTR, escortcelling makes sense.

By the looks of it. Yeah escortcelling does make sense. That depends on whether those women had
Bareback sex with him.

 

[eduardkoopman]

A shitton of young women don't even seem to want relationships and are fine with hooking up every once in a while or being one of many women of some chad fuckbuddy.

I know. But also. If they wanted an LTR, they could get one quit easily. No shortage of options for that.

Some women look really good into their 30s, 40s (rarely).

some yeah.

But those women are most likely going to be in relationships and not on the dating market I am guessing.

Seems also my obsercation. They are usually in relationship with a good looking dude and/or a guy that is going full betabuxxing.

Do you think at some point you should just escortmax? .

That's always an option, for a dude. It depends, on sex drive and what wants and stuff. It's very personal, can't say much general about I think.

Singlemoms at that age.. their children will be out of the house already and not play a role in her daily life. Might even be able to LTR one for some more intimate relationship at that point I guess.

True. Most old people I see pair up, like 50's 0r 60's. Are usually more companionship maxxing and someone to do something fun with maxxing. As well, as can't be alone or trying to prepare that someone is there for physical declines to help out.

I think the biggest struggle for men is to find a decent women to have children with. Basically:
1)Good looks.
2)Good personality.
3)Young. (<30yo tbh)
4)No previous children.

This combination is extremely hard to get. If you forego your own wish to reproduce as a guy, or already have reproduced, it becomes easier tbh.

Probably getting laid regularly for the regular dude at 18 , might be as equally hard to find.
The age window for all above 4 points is in the West kinda narrow in general. Women from 18-25 don't want LTR maybe most often. deffo no kids. So than for a dude, it all has to happen in the age bracket of 25-32 orso.

 

[ConspiracyTheory]

As a newly single, of course not by my choice, 34 y/o I can honestly say I have never been so hopeless in my life.
My ex and I met when we were both 33 and the way she talked we had the same goals of settling down together. I found her extremely attractive; tied for the most attractive woman I've ever been with. She has no kids, a good career, and we just meshed. Fast forward one year and suddenly she's having a midlife crisis and needs to go find herself or some shit. Now I want to kill myself everyday.
Be prepared that what you have planned will not work out because failure is far more frequent than success.
The only hope I have is that with a lip lift and ptosis correction and some laser skin resurfacing I can date early 30s women until I find one as beautiful and cool as my ex was, but I am very very aware the odds are slim to none.

TLDR prepare for worst case scenario because it is likely. The older you get, the worse if gets.

 

[eduardkoopman]

As a newly single, of course not by my choice, 34 y/o I can honestly say I have never been so hopeless in my life.
My ex and I met when we were both 33 and the way she talked we had the same goals of settling down together. I found her extremely attractive; tied for the most attractive woman I've ever been with. She has no kids, a good career, and we just meshed. Fast forward one year and suddenly she's having a midlife crisis and needs to go find herself or some shit. Now I want to kill myself everyday.
Be prepared that what you have planned will not work out because failure is far more frequent than success.
The only hope I have is that with a lip lift and ptosis correction and some laser skin resurfacing I can date early 30s women until I find one as beautiful and cool as my ex was, but I am very very aware the odds are slim to none.

TLDR prepare for worst case scenario because it is likely. The older you get, the worse if gets.

brutal.
I hope she finds herself in india.

 

[Deleted member 7776]

By the looks of it. Yeah escortcelling does make sense. That depends on whether those women had
Bareback sex with him.

how does escortcelling make sense

 

[eduardkoopman]

how does escortcelling make sense

they leave the validation and ego factor out than

 

[Deleted member 7776]

they leave the validation and ego factor out than

exactly but that's why I fuck women in the first place, I don't need the sex, I need the validation

 

[eduardkoopman]

exactly but that's why I fuck women in the first place, I don't need the sex, I need the validation

not everyone is a clone from each other.
not everyone os the same.
btw, i never went escort/hooker either. because wanting the ego trip, that the female is hot for muh d. Life would be easier though, if don;t need the validation. one can be more rational than.

 

[Deleted member 7776]

not everyone is a clone from each other.
not everyone os the same.
btw, i never went escort/hooker either. because wanting the ego trip, that the female is hot for muh d.

Exactly, some guys just wanna fuck and fine without the validation. I personally want the validation for the most part

 

[eduardkoopman]

Exactly, some guys just wanna fuck and fine without the validation. I personally want the validation for the most part

#metoo. Validation keeps me mentally sane, and feel better.

 

[Deleted member 6512]

Tbh I don't disregard sex with single mothers that much, I fucked a single mother once and it was one of the best sex I had, but it's good only for hook-ups not for relationships.

 

[ConspiracyTheory]

Tbh I don't disregard sex with single mothers that much, I fucked a single mother once and it was one of the best sex I had, but it's good only for hook-ups not for relationships.

Is it true they have gaping vaginas?

 

[Deleted member 6512]

Is it true they have gaping vaginas?

No, this one I fucked for 2 weeks had 3 kids but her pussy was no different from other girls I fucked.

 

[Littleboy]

#metoo. Validation keeps me mentally sane, and feel better.

For an incel manlet I accept that I won't get sex freely. So for me just to get the sex rather than being ripped off financially is a win I'd say for me.

 

[RAITEIII]

500 matches / 100 dates is actually an insane match/date ratio wtf.

My match->date conversion is like 100 matches/ 1 date

1 out of 100?

 

[Deleted member 275]

1 out of 100?

Yeah. 1/3 of my matches i find too ugly. Other 1/3 never reply to my first measage. Then of the remaining convos like half die out in 3 messages.

So only 15/100 matches i have an actual convo with. Leading to 1 date

 

[Deleted member 756]

Just did some math.

He was dating 35-50 age range.

$75 average cost per date. He had 100 dates: $7500. And he had intemacy with probably 30-35 max..
That's a cost of 200-250 USD per person for sex (and not prime women, but 35-50 years old women). NOT accounting for time invested to arrange dates, even. Financially speaking if only after sex and not validation or a serious LTR, escortcelling makes sense.

So he’s a cuck

 

[eduardkoopman]

So he’s a cuck

Ain't every single dude, that is dating that! With exceptions of dudes, that get away with not being pro-active daters. Most men foot most of the time the bill on dates.

 

[Deleted member 756]

Ain't every single dude, that is dating that! With exceptions of dudes, that get away with not being pro-active daters. Most men foot most of the time the bill on dates.

I never pay fully for a bill. They either pay for me or we split

 

[AlexAP]

This dude made this post: " Over 2 years, I've had over 500 matches and gone on exactly 100 dates. Out of curiosity, I took notes. ALOT of notes. Thought I'd share all the numbers of what I experienced going on 100 dates. Enjoy! "

Dude looks like this
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this is his statts.
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This guy is repulsively ugly. He's fat, bald, seems to not take care of his skin. Of course he can only get unattractive, older women. If he would actually looksmax, he could definitely get attractive women in her 30s.

And he has the advantage of already having kids. He continued his lineage, so he may not feel a very strong urge to have kids again. He can take it easy instead of searching for "the one". That would give him an advantage against women who are in her early-mid 30s and want kids, they will probably be easier to pump and dump.

But instead of being a MILF slayer, he decided to be a roastie betabuxxer. Sad.

 

[one job away]

This dude made this post: " Over 2 years, I've had over 500 matches and gone on exactly 100 dates. Out of curiosity, I took notes. ALOT of notes. Thought I'd share all the numbers of what I experienced going on 100 dates. Enjoy! "

Dude looks like this
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this is his statts.
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I doubt he kept track of that from early on. He would have had to write down super random things like ok this date talked about her medical problems. He had much weirder ones in there but I forgot. Doubt he actually did that. That would require extensive planning. Overall probably larp

 

[eduardkoopman]

I doubt he kept track of that from early on.

He never said, he started traing from the get go of doing online datings. Actually he said, that he started tracking it Siince februari 2018 till april 2020.

Doubt he actually did that. That would require extensive planning. Overall probably larp

It sounds pretty legit ti me, what that dude did.
He did the making of excel sheet and conciously tracking ti for that x amounts of months he mentioned.

****
That man his great post on Redit/Tinder. got deleted I see. Stupid cuck Reddit.

 

[Doober]

With 200$ i go to hookers 4 times.

Ngl sounds like heaven. Fuck validation. pussy for 50$ mogs

 

[carnage]

Spend 100 on a shitty date or save up and buy luxurious young Stacy escorts. Hmmm tough choice

 

[Deleted member 3679]

Spend 100 on a shitty date or save up and buy luxurious young Stacy escorts. Hmmm tough choice

Agreed, with a guy like that he's already let himself go waaaay too long ago... no plastic surgery, weight loss, or hair transplant will save him at that point. Might as well just escortmax...

 

[eduardkoopman]

Spend 100 on a shitty date or save up and buy luxurious young Stacy escorts. Hmmm tough choice

Agreed, with a guy like that he's already let himself go waaaay too long ago... no plastic surgery, weight loss, or hair transplant will save him at that point. Might as well just escortmax...

I dunno what this man was looking for.
But, excorts offer only sex.
There is no validation, or LTR, or GF experience with them as a potential option. Myabe that dude wants that.

If just sex, than yeah.

 

[Deleted member 3679]

I dunno what this man was looking for.
But, excorts offer only sex.
There is no validation, or LTR, or GF experience with them as a potential option. Myabe that dude wants that.

If just sex, than yeah.

It's funny but you see some actors/high value guys who have no problem paying for sex... they have lots of women after them but would rather just pay for a quick bang.

 

[eduardkoopman]

It's funny but you see some actors/high value guys who have no problem paying for sex... they have lots of women after them but would rather just pay for a quick bang.

because the validation aspect, and want. Is fulfilled already likely.
than it's just about sex.

 

[chessplayercoper23]

Just did some math.

He was dating 35-50 age range.

$75 average cost per date. He had 100 dates: $7500. And he had intemacy with probably 30-35 max..
That's a cost of 200-250 USD per person for sex (and not prime women, but 35-50 years old women). NOT accounting for time invested to arrange dates, even. Financially speaking if only after sex and not validation or a serious LTR, escortcelling makes sense.

I believe it most ethnic women in that age range in my state date those type of men

 

[chessplayercoper23]

He was dating bottom of the barrel women. It's easy to get dates online from ugly girls. I do it all the time. Jlol @ you idiots that think tinder is hard

Its probably believable since he was white

 

[Deleted member 3679]

because the validation aspect, and want. Is fulfilled already likely.
than it's just about sex.

Exactly... they just want quick guaranteed sex with a woman who won't stalk them

 

[eduardkoopman]

Exactly... they just want quick guaranteed sex with a woman who won't stalk them

A dude pays an escort not only for the sex. But also for her to leave after.

 

[tyronelite]

 

[Deleted member 5786]

Gianluca Vacchi too, he is 53
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I think if you wanna be a "daddy" type of man and look good when you get old you need to:
1) Beardmaxx, since probably you will start have nasolabial folds and your skin on the cheeks will start sag, plus when you age you will look more masculine so makes sense to add a beard to look even more masculine
2) Leanmaxx, since everyone is fat, if you can get on trt is even better
3) Retain hair, you can get away with being NW3 since it's expected
4) Skincaremaxxing, possibly retinoids in order to try to make your skin look better

shit example.
Dont you see this guy was born to be attractive ?
look at his facial structure

 

[Chinacurry]

With 200$ i go to hookers 4 times.

Which country ?

 

[Chinacurry]

Women over 30 are dried up and used goods, thinking about one of them makes my dick fall off. 25 year old women is the oldest you should aim for, else go for hookers if you feel the urge.

Women are still on the carousel aged 25 in cities like NYC or LA or London.

Plus what if u get a top, TOP tier 30yr old? With top 0.01% body and top 1% face and good collagen??

 

[Deleted member 5786]

@eduardkoopman which one mogs (only face)?

 

[eduardkoopman]

@eduardkoopman which one mogs (only face)?

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guy in read, has better face. If he painted his hair, he would look better even

 

[Deleted member 5786]

guy in read, has better face. If he painted his hair, he would look better even

brutals
muh wide skull and other bullshit