On Reddit, I've noticed this trend in highly educated curryfoids/sandfoids while attempting to date white men.

[Deleted member 9568]

it's the future in the west/north, i've noticed IRL more and more LTN-HTN whites with mid to htn foids(after 100ibs of make up) middle eastern foids(turkish,lebanese, iraq), white htn + with status can always get stacey tier middle eastern foids if they choose to. Actually it's the opposite many middle eastern dad's are ok with their daugthers having better and more white offpsring, but it's more about them worried about white guy's having more options and leaving behind "the family"

 

[Deleted member 9568]

Im half dutch/half turkish and I know quite a lot of turkish women. They are virgins(not cope) and highly educated and also refuse to have sex outside of a committed relationship. This might sound like cope but I have never seen a turkish woman in a LTR with a white guy here. They often have traditional values, parental control and will only date other turks. It usually goes like this: turkish women will stay virgin untill they find a good looking turk and both commit to a ltr, they lose their virginity to the guy and keep the relationship a secret from their fathers and some other members of the family, then 1 or 2 years will pass by and the guy will have to ask her fathers permission after which they engage. Most of these girls indeed want an alpha-beta, a good looking guy with good education and money, basically a good looking provider.

i've known similar turkish foids and middle eastern like this and they would chose a white HTN, but for the white guy it will be more strict since he won't be able to party as much and more focused on her and her family. Believe me i'm of middle eastern origin also.

 

[Deleted member 17542]

i've known similar turkish foids and middle eastern like this and they would chose a white HTN, but for the white guy it will be more strict since he won't be able to party as much and more focused on her and her family. Believe me i'm of middle eastern origin also.

Yea I believe you. I have not yet observed that yet here where I live but my turkish circle is small. And the truth is that majority of turkish women go for turkish guys who are "whiter" than average.

 

[Xangsane]

it's the future in the west/north, i've noticed IRL more and more LTN-HTN whites with mid to htn foids(after 100ibs of make up) middle eastern foids(turkish,lebanese, iraq), white htn + with status can always get stacey tier middle eastern foids if they choose to. Actually it's the opposite many middle eastern dad's are ok with their daugthers having better and more white offpsring, but it's more about them worried about white guy's having more options and leaving behind "the family"

Also in here they could get disowned or even killed if they lose their virginity.

That's true. Some ethnic parents are worried about their daughters being used as fuck toys by white men for a year, then marry a white woman. Since ethnic, especially brown, parents, want their daughters to date with the intention of marriage.

 

[Xangsane]

Yea I believe you. I have not yet observed that yet here where I live but my turkish circle is small. And the truth is that majority of turkish women go for turkish guys who are "whiter" than average.

But don't these whiter Turkish guys have more options, since they'd be in more demand?

 

[Xangsane]

i've known similar turkish foids and middle eastern like this and they would chose a white HTN, but for the white guy it will be more strict since he won't be able to party as much and more focused on her and her family. Believe me i'm of middle eastern origin also.

MENA here too.
If I went off with a white girl I'd think I'd have to assimilate into her culture, eat bland food and would be dragged out to parties a lot. No thanks.

Do you think what you said is why some white men don't want to commit to ethnic women?

 

[Xangsane]

Im half dutch/half turkish and I know quite a lot of turkish women. They are virgins(not cope) and highly educated and also refuse to have sex outside of a committed relationship. This might sound like cope but I have never seen a turkish woman in a LTR with a white guy here. They often have traditional values, parental control and will only date other turks. It usually goes like this: turkish women will stay virgin untill they find a good looking turk and both commit to a ltr, they lose their virginity to the guy and keep the relationship a secret from their fathers and some other members of the family, then 1 or 2 years will pass by and the guy will have to ask her fathers permission after which they engage. Most of these girls indeed want an alpha-beta, a good looking guy with good education and money, basically a good looking provider.

And because of this the Turkish girls don't go with white men because the white men would pressure them into sex, and the Turkish women would refuse to lose their virginity?

 

[Deleted member 17542]

But don't these whiter Turkish guys have more options, since they'd be in more demand?

Yes they have, but most of them want to settle down with a turkish girl.

 

[Deleted member 17542]

And because of this the Turkish girls don't go with white men because the white men would pressure them into sex, and the Turkish women would refuse to lose their virginity?

Most turkish girls only lose their virginity to someone who they know will commit to a ltr and marriage. Most turkish girls cant just ltr a white dutch guy and then introduce him to her parents because her parents wouldnt allow it and wouldnt support it.

 

[Deleted member 9568]

MENA here too.
If I went off with a white girl I'd think I'd have to assimilate into her culture, eat bland food and would be dragged out to parties a lot. No thanks.

Do you think what you said is why some white men don't want to commit to ethnic women?

don't know, if she is submissive she would do the opposite to you that's what my brother's white wife have done. Their kids will 100% only interact with whites in the future though.

 

[Xangsane]

Most turkish girls only lose their virginity to someone who they know will commit to a ltr and marriage. Most turkish girls cant just ltr a white dutch guy and then introduce him to her parents because her parents wouldnt allow it and wouldnt support it.

don't know, if she is submissive she would do the opposite to you that's what my brother's white wife have done. Their kids will 100% only interact with whites in the future though.

What I find odd here in the UK is that many MENA and South Asian women also take this approach.

The difference? MENA women get what they want (a good looking guy that would commit to marriage with them.) Especially non-Gulf MENAs. South Asian women often don't. These often get used for sex for a year or two, then dumped in favour of a white women.

 

[Xangsane]

Most turkish girls only lose their virginity to someone who they know will commit to a ltr and marriage. Most turkish girls cant just ltr a white dutch guy and then introduce him to her parents because her parents wouldnt allow it and wouldnt support it.

That's true. Usually Muslim foids want them to marry within their own cultures because the parents are worried the white guy won't commit or would force her into his culture.

 

[Deleted member 9568]

Also in here they could get disowned or even killed if they lose their virginity.

That's true. Some ethnic parents are worried about their daughters being used as fuck toys by white men for a year, then marry a white woman. Since ethnic, especially brown, parents, want their daughters to date with the intention of marriage.

dude believe me if u are in the west/north u will see and know deep down that most of these would rather be in a LTR with a white normie/mid tier. Majority of ethnic guys(talking about middle eastern, curries and ricecels have -smv in western eu) work "lower tier" jobs, and at best some mid tier white collar position. And i'm talking about big cities that's what is funny, even harder in smaller place. Last time i tried clubbing i saw how an gook and ethnic foid tried to fight with an white girl, they clearly did that because they wanted the attention of her white mid tier normie boyfriend(technically he will be viewed as a fkn HTN+ for these whores that rarely get to interact with white ppl given how white ppl started avoiding ethnics and other group of ppl even more). Heck i know even struggling christian balkan struggling, why? because they have the ethnic treatment and lower class situation.

 

[Xangsane]

dude believe me if u are in the west/north u will see and know deep down that most of these would rather be in a LTR with a white normie/mid tier. Majority of ethnic guys(talking about middle eastern, curries and ricecels have -smv in western eu) work "lower tier" jobs, and at best some mid tier white collar position. And i'm talking about big cities that's what is funny, even harder in smaller place. Last time i tried clubbing i saw how an gook and ethnic foid tried to fight with an white girl, they clearly did that because they wanted the attention of her white mid tier normie boyfriend(technically he will be viewed as a fkn HTN+ for these whores that rarely get to interact with white ppl given how white ppl started avoiding ethnics and other group of ppl even more). Heck i know even struggling christian balkan struggling, why? because they have the ethnic treatment and lower class situation.

Northern Europe (UK) here - that's sad. I wonder why they don't go for HTN+ whites?

 

[Deleted member 17542]

dude believe me if u are in the west/north u will see and know deep down that most of these would rather be in a LTR with a white normie/mid tier. Majority of ethnic guys(talking about middle eastern, curries and ricecels have -smv in western eu) work "lower tier" jobs, and at best some mid tier white collar position. And i'm talking about big cities that's what is funny, even harder in smaller place. Last time i tried clubbing i saw how an gook and ethnic foid tried to fight with an white girl, they clearly did that because they wanted the attention of her white mid tier normie boyfriend(technically he will be viewed as a fkn HTN+ for these whores that rarely get to interact with white ppl given how white ppl started avoiding ethnics and other group of ppl even more). Heck i know even struggling christian balkan struggling, why? because they have the ethnic treatment and lower class situation.

Yea majority of turks here in the Netherlands are low educated and work in lower tier jobs as well. The women I described are primarily well educated and are in university.

 

[Xangsane]

Yea majority of turks here in the Netherlands are low educated and work in lower tier jobs as well. The women I described are primarily well educated and are in university.

So the women marry down in status?

 

[Deleted member 9568]

Northern Europe (UK) here - that's sad. I wonder why they don't go for HTN+ whites?

HTN+whites when young 18-26 got so many god tier options, it will be around 25-30 they are more likely to given an gl ethnic foid commitment. Given that they have also started working. You have to understand that ethnic foids in the west also get their shitty degrees, they will get jobs at local public sector and companies as low tier white collar worker, but guess what? They will have access to all white guys and prob more economic stable than the ethnic guys they know IRL. Meanwhile the husband is working warehouse or owning his shitty construction company, they better be having their own company since you never hear about how they get treated like garbage here, but who can blame them since they act like fkn apes here.

 

[Deleted member 17542]

So the women marry down in status?

No definitely not. The well educated girls will go for well educated guys in high status jobs only.

 

[Deleted member 9568]

Yea majority of turks here in the Netherlands are low educated and work in lower tier jobs as well. The women I described are primarily well educated and are in university.

that's how they fuck with white guys now more than ever, any ethnic(middle eastern talking about EU noting north american ethnics) guy that denies this is in delusion. Trust me they cheat more than ever. I've meet croats, serbs most of them are white but some of them get ethnic treatment, they admit that life got easier when they started their own(construction often) and didn't have to take shit and garbage from their previous bosses. Ethnic guys do everything and it's pretty pathetic, buying shitty jewlery and designer cars just to have the same drought as white inkwells but they will buy a whore or two once a while.

 

[Deleted member 17542]

that's how they fuck with white guys now more than ever, any ethnic(middle eastern talking about EU noting north american ethnics) guy that denies this is in delusion. Trust me they cheat more than ever. I've meet croats, serbs most of them are white but some of them get ethnic treatment, they admit that life got easier when they started their own(construction often) and didn't have to take shit and garbage from their previous bosses. Ethnic guys do everything and it's pretty pathetic, buying shitty jewlery and designer cars just to have the same drought as white inkwells but they will buy a whore or two once a while.

It is over for many men. Most ethnic guys indeed cope by driving expensive cars and wearing designer clothes.

 

[Xangsane]

It is over for many men. Most ethnic guys indeed cope by driving expensive cars and wearing designer clothes.

This. Curries especially here.

 

[Deleted member 9568]

It is over for many men. Most ethnic guys indeed cope by driving expensive cars and wearing designer clothes.

there have been cases of white christians(italians, those arab christians, balkan) literally leaving EU due to ethnic treatment from their looks, and they have returned home or tried for northern america, but it's rarely reported and no one talks about it.

 

[Deleted member 17542]

there have been cases of white christians(italians, those arab christians, balkan) literally leaving EU due to ethnic treatment from their looks, and they have returned home or tried for northern america, but it's rarely reported and no one talks about it.

Brutal bro. I never got ethnic treatment in my university years or now in my career. I am a software engineer so I dont know whether it is because of my looks (i'm half dutch half turk and people never know where I am from) or the fact that I am highly educated. Lookswise I am nothing special, HTN max.

 

[Beetlejuice]

 

[Deleted member 6305]

Ethnic women are obsessed with white men

 

[Deleted member 9568]

Brutal bro. I never got ethnic treatment in my university years or now in my career. I am a software engineer so I dont know whether it is because of my looks (i'm half dutch half turk and people never know where I am from) or the fact that I am highly educated. Lookswise I am nothing special, HTN max.

you lucky, well there you have it HTN + you work in a field with less customer ineraction and dealing with finance and sales + acquisition regionally/smaller area, since those jobs will most likely have an white HTN and not any ethnic. Also you get paid for your performance and problem solving. How is your dating life then?

 

[Deleted member 17542]

you lucky, well there you have it HTN + you work in a field with less customer ineraction and dealing with finance and sales + acquisition regionally/smaller area, since those jobs will most likely have an white HTN and not any ethnic. Also you get paid for your performance and problem solving. How is your dating life then?

Yea I agree. Dating life is okay ish, nothing special. I am a rotter tho besides coping with gymcelling, making money and motorcycles. If I use dating apps, I can get MTBs and sometimes HTBs. Irl, I lack social status and social media presence.

 

[Deleted member 9568]

Yea I agree. Dating life is okay ish, nothing special. I am a rotter tho besides coping with gymcelling, making money and motorcycles. If I use dating apps, I can get MTBs and sometimes HTBs. Irl, I lack social status and social media presence.

could tell that by the fact that you are alrdy on this site and work in tech lol.

 

[Xangsane]

you lucky, well there you have it HTN + you work in a field with less customer ineraction and dealing with finance and sales + acquisition regionally/smaller area, since those jobs will most likely have an white HTN and not any ethnic. Also you get paid for your performance and problem solving. How is your dating life then?

He probably has gonzalo pheno but htn

 

[LooksOrDeath]

They're also using virginity and having a top university degree, and knowing how to cook, as reasons why a Chad should commit to them.

Doesn't matter if they aren't gl

 

[Xangsane]

Doesn't matter if they aren't gl

Yes, these curryfoids are often very average looking. Yet they use these traits to justify why they deserve a highly-educated white Chad. Curryfoids more than any other woman.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Yes, these curryfoids are often very average looking.

They should stick to M-HTNs of their race and MTN whites then.

 

[Xangsane]

They should stick to M-HTNs of their race and MTN whites then.

Some users here said their approach is better for the brown (curry) dating market, and some whites, especially the better-looking ones, won't care about all that. Only if the foid is GL to begin with, GL white men may consider.

Also, foids are also racetaxed just like guys.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Some users here said their approach is better for the brown (curry) dating market,

While it's true brown people care alot about chastity, the wife is selected mainly on looks and her family environment . Since brown males usually are expected to be the breadwinner, the husband's side usually has more choosing power, allowing them to discriminate on looks. Degree is even more useless for brown marriage, these women are usually put to work in the house unless the family has hyper-liberal values.

and some whites, especially the better-looking ones, won't care about all that.

Every man with his senses intact cares alot about chastitiy when it comes to marriage.

Only if the foid is GL to begin with, GL white men may consider.

However, looks matter more. Better a non-virgin PSL 5.5 than a virgin PSL 4.5.

 

[Xangsane]

While it's true brown people care alot about chastity, the wife is selected mainly on looks and her family environment . Since brown males usually are expected to be the breadwinner, the husband's side usually has more choosing power, allowing them to discriminate on looks. Degree is even more useless for brown marriage, these women are usually put to work in the house unless the family has hyper-liberal values.

Every man with his senses intact cares alot about chastitiy when it comes to marriage.

However, looks matter more. Better a non-virgin PSL 5.5 than a virgin PSL 4.5.

So if degree is useless why do brown families often push their daughters to do top degrees? I've noticed a lot of STEM and law classes have plenty of curryfoids in them.

 

[Chinacurry]

dude believe me if u are in the west/north u will see and know deep down that most of these would rather be in a LTR with a white normie/mid tier. Majority of ethnic guys(talking about middle eastern, curries and ricecels have -smv in western eu) work "lower tier" jobs, and at best some mid tier white collar position. And i'm talking about big cities that's what is funny, even harder in smaller place. Last time i tried clubbing i saw how an gook and ethnic foid tried to fight with an white girl, they clearly did that because they wanted the attention of her white mid tier normie boyfriend(technically he will be viewed as a fkn HTN+ for these whores that rarely get to interact with white ppl given how white ppl started avoiding ethnics and other group of ppl even more). Heck i know even struggling christian balkan struggling, why? because they have the ethnic treatment and lower class situation.

was this in.germany?

 

[LooksOrDeath]

So if degree is useless why do brown families often push their daughters to do top degrees? I've noticed a lot of STEM and law classes have plenty of curryfoids in them.

It's not to give them better-arranged marriage resumes, just to make sure their daughters are more self-reliant. These people are what I'd consider "hyper-liberals" (by brown standards) and they're also less likely to have their daughters in arranged marriages, since they're usually so westernized. However, if they are under the impression that their daughter's degree will have any benefit apart from looking good and cultured to the prospective husband's family, they are wrong.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

So if degree is useless why do brown families often push their daughters to do top degrees? I've noticed a lot of STEM and law classes have plenty of curryfoids in them.

Can you also comment on these brown girls. What are they like in attitude, family environment.

 

[Xangsane]

Can you also comment on these brown girls. What are they like in attitude, family environment.

They're submissive with their families and the guy they want to attract, and they're stuck up with everyone else.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

They're submissive with their families and the guy they want to attract, and they're stuck up with everyone else.

Dissapointed.. but as expected.

 

[Xangsane]

Dissapointed.. but as expected.

And when they date white Chads that push them to lose their virginity before commitment, they refuse outright to do so, unless they're in a committed relationship. They also become very stuck-up then.

These same Indian women become bitter FDS users in their 30s, coping with "muh cook and clean" and "muh engineering master's degree" with no nice, pleasant personality to offer the guy.

They aren't playing the game very well - they have to be GL and of a more "acceptable" phenotype to these white Chads if they want to keep him.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

They aren't playing the game very well - they have to be GL and of a more "acceptable" phenotype to these white Chads if they want to keep him.

just be born gl theory

 

[goat2x]

My brother fucked an ethnic like that she was 19 tho i guess thats still pretty rare in these times

he literally dumped her 3-4 weeks later i asked him why did he do it, he said it had that virgin factor

i would have said to him ok nigga but u ruined someone elses shit but she would have done the same w some other chad anyways

it doesnt really matter if these girls are virgin or not because they r 2022 sluts anyways

 

[LooksOrDeath]

My brother fucked an ethnic like that she was 19 tho i guess thats still pretty rare in these times

he literally dumped her 3-4 weeks later i asked him why did he do it, he said it had that virgin factor

i would have said to him ok nigga but u ruined someone elses shit but she would have done the same w some other chad anyways

it doesnt really matter if these girls are virgin or not because they r 2022 sluts anyways

The girl signed up for it, nothing to complain about here. 2022 sluts indeed.

 

[goat2x]

The girl signed up for it, nothing to complain about here. 2022 sluts indeed.

These girls dont wait for the perfect guy, the wait for the perfect looks


If u see a women who is virgin in 2022 its cuz no one met her standards not cuz muh trad. its over.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

@Xangsane imo the best possible scenario for a muslim and/or curry is to be gl and arrangemarriagemax with a conservative family. Sort of like what Salludon did. However we can add onto this prior sexual experiences with other girls and you will be practically invicible in a virgin girl's eyes. However the looks threshold for this will be high, though a good life is nigh guaranteed.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

These girls dont wait for the perfect guy, the wait for the perfect looks


If u see a women who is virgin in 2022 its cuz no one met her standards not cuz muh trad. its over.

true but water mate, water.

 

[goat2x]

true but water mate, water.

haha reading it IS water applying it is not.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

haha reading it IS water applying it is not.

Legit.

Though you are right, this isn't to say that a girl being a virgin trad is just the same as your run-off-the-mill slut. A trad girl will actually be committed entirely to the type of man she covets so much once she is in a relationship with him. A modern woman gassed up with hyper-liberal ideals is far more likely to cheat even if she is with her unicorn husband.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

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Legit
Though you are right, this isn't to say that a girl being a virgin trad is just the same as your run-off-the-mill slut. A trad girl will actually be committed entirely to the type of man she covets so much once she is in a relationship with him. A modern woman gassed up with hyper-liberal ideals is far more likely to cheat even if she is with her unicorn husband.

A depressing part of tradcon marriage fantasies however is that they always assume both partners are gl and have dimorphism between them. i.e the male is gl and dimorphic enough to be able to secure the female for pretty much the entire marriage. This is like less than 10% of such marriages and usually in today's world they end up with the tradwife not being as trad as previously thought to be and she cheats with a better-looking man. Then the marriage becomes a contract in the name of the integrity of their kids lives. Dead bedrooms and skittish wives galore.

90% of tradcon marriages are passionless contracts signed not in the name of love and desire but as a cope on the males part for a veneer of mate security. Cuckservatives ain't getting shit with their Christian wife fantasies.