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Quick overview, I’m on mk 2866 (ostarine), mk 677, and enclomiphene.

Mk 2866 - Ostarine is generally considered a beginner sarm as it has relatively lower side effects than other sarms. This doesn’t mean it’s not dangerous, everyone responds differently. I like to think that just as someone can hyper respond to muscle growth using peds, other people can hyper respond to the negative effects. Ostarine is hard on your liver and heart and has many other side effects like testosterone suppression(😱) don’t leave yet retard we have a way of combatting this.

Enclomiphene - enclomiphene is a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator) , similar to sarm, but essentially blocks estrogen receptors in the brain allowing much higher levels of testosterone to be produced (I know it does it in a more complex way but this is just boiled down)
There is a lot of conflicting anecdotal reasoning with enclomiphene. Some people say don’t take with sarms as your testosterone will recover quickly enough, some say to take it after you feel supressed on your cycle, some say take it the whole cycle. I decided to take it the whole cycle because I bought a lot of it, I do not want to be suppressed at all and plus, higher testosterone🤷‍♂️. There is also highly conflicting consensus on enclomiphene side effects but I concluded that it has negligible side effects compared to the other shit I’m taking in this cycle. It lowers growth hormone levels but my mk 677 is compensating for that.

Mk-677 - an igf 1secretagogue meaning it increases your growth hormone levels. Many debate on if this is beneficial for muscle growth at all, but as a side effect your hunger shoots through the roof. It’s insane for bulking. Mk 677 causes a lot of water retention which, as many of us know, is terrible. Furthermore, you can develop insulin resistance which essentially means diabetes. This is preventable by using certain supplements I’ll talk about.

This shit is not as expensive as I thought it would be, it was like $200 for all of it but there’s more.

Supplements/support - WE ALL want to be safe so there is a lot of supporting supplements you need to take. NAC and tudca and 2 supplements for your liver. I also take berberine to combat the insulin resistance from mk 677. I take fish oil for my heart. These also cost like $100 total.
For the insulin resistance you need to buy a glucose monitor and check your glucose levels. If it’s too high you need to lower your mk 677 or stop taking it. people say if you are in the pre diabetic range then stop.

Workout/results - my workout regimen is a typical PPL with bodybuilding principles.
My weight has gone from 155 to 175 in 4 weeks although it doesn’t look like it at all, I have gained a little bit of fat and a fair amount of muscle, maybe 10 pounds of mass if your being generous, but that’s still insane especially for 3 weeks. There is definitely significant weight gain from water retention.
All my exercises have been going up every week. I progress so quickly it’s ridiculous. In the first week I was only getting good pumps and added a couple reps on exercises, but it has RAMPED up recently. My bench pr goes up 5 pounds every push day and this push day it went up 10.
My bench pr has gone from 170 to 205. IN 3 WEEKS WTF. My friend has had even better results his bench going from 185 to 235, he has been on it a week longer and is also about 215 pounds (obese🤣) but still the strength gain is insane. He is also not of mk 677 just btw. I know I sound like I’m glorifying itc but also I have had VERY minimal side effects. I still jerk off to tentacle hentai everyday 😁 (no erectile disfunction). I have had a slight brain fog and small headaches both likely from lower quality sleep. This cycle can cause insomnia and sleep issues but after the first week I have gotten good sleep. My friend has had more side effects than I have had, after the 4th day of taking it he had unbearable stomach pain for a day. He stopped for a couple days and has been fine sense. (He has been making his own meal preps and probably fucked something up tbh now that I’m thinking of it). He has also been having various joint issues, mostly elbow pain. He ego lifts almost all his workouts so it’s probably a combination of that and the drugs. The first week he was on it he had some of the strangest anger issues too. If you said ANYTHING around this mf he would be annoyed and curse you out and if you made a joke about him he would get physical. It is not close to the first week but he still gets mad if you joke with him. I’m telling you all this just so sou can see how it effects people differently. So far I do not regret it for myself but highly regret it for my friend. He is not very intelligent and is talking about “doubling his cycle”, “extending the cycle” and “when’s the next cycle”. I believe he could get addicted as if he isn’t already. These drugs are addicting people, it’s all the gains you could wish for and more and they are not gonna last forever. The goal with my cycle is to get my peak natty physique quicker. I value my health. I am stopping at 1 cycle atleast for another 5 years. So in conclusion, sarms work, they are dangerous, maybe see how you respond to them lol, if you have body didmorphia you will 100% get addicted to PEDs. Ask me questions but I’m not really an expert
 
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You cannot take a sarm which is anabolic without injecting testosterone
 
You cannot take a sarm which is anabolic without injecting testosterone
What do you mean, your talking about a test base right? My test base is enclomiphene essentially
 
Quick overview, I’m on mk 2866 (ostarine), mk 677, and enclomiphene.

Mk 2866 - Ostarine is generally considered a beginner sarm as it has relatively lower side effects than other sarms. This doesn’t mean it’s not dangerous, everyone responds differently. I like to think that just as someone can hyper respond to muscle growth using peds, other people can hyper respond to the negative effects. Ostarine is hard on your liver and heart and has many other side effects like testosterone suppression(😱) don’t leave yet retard we have a way of combatting this.

Enclomiphene - enclomiphene is a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator) , similar to sarm, but essentially blocks estrogen receptors in the brain allowing much higher levels of testosterone to be produced (I know it does it in a more complex way but this is just boiled down)
There is a lot of conflicting anecdotal reasoning with enclomiphene. Some people say don’t take with sarms as your testosterone will recover quickly enough, some say to take it after you feel supressed on your cycle, some say take it the whole cycle. I decided to take it the whole cycle because I bought a lot of it, I do not want to be suppressed at all and plus, higher testosterone🤷‍♂️. There is also highly conflicting consensus on enclomiphene side effects but I concluded that it has negligible side effects compared to the other shit I’m taking in this cycle. It lowers growth hormone levels but my mk 677 is compensating for that.

Mk-677 - an igf 1secretagogue meaning it increases your growth hormone levels. Many debate on if this is beneficial for muscle growth at all, but as a side effect your hunger shoots through the roof. It’s insane for bulking. Mk 677 causes a lot of water retention which, as many of us know, is terrible. Furthermore, you can develop insulin resistance which essentially means diabetes. This is preventable by using certain supplements I’ll talk about.

This shit is not as expensive as I thought it would be, it was like $200 for all of it but there’s more.

Supplements/support - WE ALL want to be safe so there is a lot of supporting supplements you need to take. NAC and tudca and 2 supplements for your liver. I also take berberine to combat the insulin resistance from mk 677. I take fish oil for my heart. These also cost like $100 total.
For the insulin resistance you need to buy a glucose monitor and check your glucose levels. If it’s too high you need to lower your mk 677 or stop taking it. people say if you are in the pre diabetic range then stop.

Workout/results - my workout regimen is a typical PPL with bodybuilding principles.
My weight has gone from 155 to 175 in 4 weeks although it doesn’t look like it at all, I have gained a little bit of fat and a fair amount of muscle, maybe 10 pounds of mass if your being generous, but that’s still insane especially for 3 weeks. There is definitely significant weight gain from water retention.
All my exercises have been going up every week. I progress so quickly it’s ridiculous. In the first week I was only getting good pumps and added a couple reps on exercises, but it has RAMPED up recently. My bench pr goes up 5 pounds every push day and this push day it went up 10.
My bench pr has gone from 170 to 205. IN 3 WEEKS WTF. My friend has had even better results his bench going from 185 to 235, he has been on it a week longer and is also about 215 pounds (obese🤣) but still the strength gain is insane. He is also not of mk 677 just btw. I know I sound like I’m glorifying itc but also I have had VERY minimal side effects. I still jerk off to tentacle hentai everyday 😁 (no erectile disfunction). I have had a slight brain fog and small headaches both likely from lower quality sleep. This cycle can cause insomnia and sleep issues but after the first week I have gotten good sleep. My friend has had more side effects than I have had, after the 4th day of taking it he had unbearable stomach pain for a day. He stopped for a couple days and has been fine sense. (He has been making his own meal preps and probably fucked something up tbh now that I’m thinking of it). He has also been having various joint issues, mostly elbow pain. He ego lifts almost all his workouts so it’s probably a combination of that and the drugs. The first week he was on it he had some of the strangest anger issues too. If you said ANYTHING around this mf he would be annoyed and curse you out and if you made a joke about him he would get physical. It is not close to the first week but he still gets mad if you joke with him. I’m telling you all this just so sou can see how it effects people differently. So far I do not regret it for myself but highly regret it for my friend. He is not very intelligent and is talking about “doubling his cycle”, “extending the cycle” and “when’s the next cycle”. I believe he could get addicted as if he isn’t already. These drugs are addicting people, it’s all the gains you could wish for and more and they are not gonna last forever. The goal with my cycle is to get my peak natty physique quicker. I value my health. I am stopping at 1 cycle atleast for another 5 years. So in conclusion, sarms work, they are dangerous, maybe see how you respond to them lol, if you have body didmorphia you will 100% get addicted to PEDs. Ask me questions but I’m not really an expert
Natty+ Pioneer
 
Natty+ Pioneer
Natty+ was an inspiration, probably follow it when I’m older plus more research on the long term effects of the supplements used.
Update on the cycle, had to stop mk 677 for a few days on week 4 because I believe I was developing insulin resistance, I had some minor diabetic symptoms and did not want to risk anything. I’ve started it again with a lower dose of 6.25 mg and have not noticed any sides so far, on week 5.
 
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Natty+ was an inspiration, probably follow it when I’m older plus more research on the long term effects of the supplements used.
Update on the cycle, had to stop mk 677 for a few days on week 4 because I believe I was developing insulin resistance, I had some minor diabetic symptoms and did not want to risk anything. I’ve started it again with a lower dose of 6.25 mg and have not noticed any sides so far, on week 5.
If you listen to natty+ know 10 mg of mk677 is the maximum effective dose so I occasionally take 5 mg but I think my growth plates r closed at 16. Im scared to run it consistently bc of widening my waist and bloat
 
If you listen to natty+ know 10 mg of mk677 is the maximum effective dose so I occasionally take 5 mg but I think my growth plates r closed at 16. Im scared to run it consistently bc of widening my waist and bloat
Yeah bloat is inevitable but I’ve been able to minimize it with the typical methods for my face. Before the cycle I wasn’t doing them so they kinda of evened out but yeah def causes bloat cause of the sodium retention
 
Yeah bloat is inevitable but I’ve been able to minimize it with the typical methods for my face. Before the cycle I wasn’t doing them so they kinda of evened out but yeah def causes bloat cause of the sodium retention
Ive stayed 5'5 for like 2 years and im 16 rn. Is it worth taking or are my growth plates mostlikely closed?
 
Ive stayed 5'5 for like 2 years and im 16 rn. Is it worth taking or are my growth plates mostlikely closed?
From what I understand in theory it would help. I’m not saying it would work or that you should do it. It’s hard to find any anecdotal evidence of anyone saying that mk 677 made them grow. Literally 0 evidence. Don’t take mk 677 for height growth also yeah ur plates are probably closed but you never know
 

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