One important factor in the decline of looksmax.org.

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Prelude

I have already explained in great detail about my theory on the degradatory decline of looksmax.org. The theory has been holding very well so far.

Please refer to that thread if you are interested in learning about my theory. The summary of that thread is as follows.

Spoiler: Summary of thread (ChatGPT)
The text applies Oswald Spengler's theory of civilization cycles to the evolution of Looksmax culture on Looksmax.org, detailing its rise and potential decline through several stages:

  1. Ethnogenesis (Early 2010s): A diverse community forms around the shared goal of self-improvement in appearance, united by cultural, linguistic, and environmental commonalities. This identity emerges in response to societal pressures and a desire for aesthetic enhancement.
  2. Culturogenesis (Mid-2010s to 2017): The ideology solidifies, influenced by anti-PUA and redpill forums. Key beliefs are established, such as the notion that women prioritize looks in men and the importance of "aesthetic capital." A unique dialect develops, incorporating terms like "coloringmax" and "mogging."
  3. Innovation (2017-2021): This period is heralded as the "Golden Age" of Looksmax.org, characterized by a vibrant exchange of ideas and knowledge about self-improvement techniques. However, early signs of degeneration begin to manifest by 2021.
  4. Peak (2022-2023): Looksmax culture reaches its zenith, significantly influencing Western youth and gaining mainstream visibility. While innovation continues, the community begins to lose its dynamism and creative energy.
  5. Degeneracy & Corruption (2024-Present): The forum suffers a marked decline, with contributions becoming repetitive and low-effort. High-quality discussions are overshadowed by negativity and superficial content, leading to a culture that increasingly praises mediocrity.
The text forecasts three potential futures for Looksmax culture: a revival led by a transformative user and their threads, a chaotic internal conflict (cyberwar that emerges from a FUOTY competition) that will lead to a decay, or a gradual decay into irrelevance and dysfunction, that eventually leads to the death of the forum as Master won't have money to keep it going and it gets entirely colonized by turbomegarotters and the amount of active users and lurkers dwindle significantly.

Certainly! Here are the three potential futures for Looksmax culture, as outlined in the text:

  1. A True Revival: A charismatic user emerges as a leader, inspiring the community and revitalizing the forum. This individual introduces innovative ideas or techniques—either in genetics or psychic enhancement—that profoundly reshape the Looksmax worldview. This revival reignites creativity and encourages high-quality contributions, leading the forum back into a new era of cultural and intellectual flourishing.
  2. A Fake, Failed Revival: A coalition of users attempts to take control of the forum, but their efforts lead to factionalism and internal conflict. Two opposing groups—one advocating for high-quality content and the other promoting low-effort contributions—clash in a cyberwar. Ultimately, this struggle results in chaos, with neither side effectively improving the culture, leading to a superficial victory and continued degeneration of the community.
    1. It can definitely be argued that FUOTY 2024 was the year this happened. Click here for evidence
  3. Direct Transition to Decay: The forum continues on its current trajectory of decline without significant intervention. Users become increasingly disengaged, with the Looksmax section becoming nearly abandoned. As the community grows toxic and less appealing, many members leave to focus on their lives outside the forum. This leads to dwindling activity, and the site may eventually face operational issues, culminating in its demise as a vibrant cultural space.
Dead forums examples: https://www.longecity.org/forum/ (almost dead) or https://forum.biohack.me/ (died a few months ago)

Ultimately, it argues that Looksmax culture is at a serious, probable risk of dissolution, unable to reclaim its former vibrancy or adapt meaningfully.

I obviously refuse to go into a deep sociological analysis into all the processes underlying the rot of this forum (and the West in general) but I will definitely tell you the most important things to know.



Analysis
To begin, online forums share similar dynamics to nations and groups of people, they are not exempt.

All of the advanced nations and regions in the world such as Europe (particularly Germanic Europe), East Asia, and their derivative/descendant nations and regions are advanced due to a plethora of factors, but one of the most pertinent set of factors is that these societies actively punish behaviors that would lead to a tragedy of the commons situation and destroy their civilization (they used to in the West, but...)

One of the main factors we are witnessing on this website is a tragedy of the commons situation, where people behaving in their self-interest damage the forum for everyone.

This is actually one of the primary shithole regions and countries in the world like Venezuela, Haiti, and most of the countries in the Middle East and Black Africa are the way they are... because people in these places behave purely in their own self-interest at the expense of everyone in the system, including them (self here includes anything they care about).
  • Cause: Median individual not minding to engage in deception/theft/poor conduct of all kinds
  • Long term effect on the system and is constituents: Destroys trust, makes it cooperation in that area harder, increases fear and stress, increases aggression, decreases the amount of people available for cooperation therefore making unification and large projects requiring large groups of people working together over space and time impossible, susceptible humiliation by other groups (if it persists + other groups are standards of deviations more advanced than you), makes it impossible to run companies, supermarkets, online marketplaces there since most people would not mind trying to deceive from you for their own benefit, (therefore makes having a techno-industial society fundamentally and utterly impossible, and therefore they have no choice but to either stay agricultural, or have underdeveloped cities infested with crime)
Of course, there are many more, and many of these traits do coincide with lower intelligence and/or lower prefrontal cortex and self-regulation capacity - or living in a society where the median person has those traits, therefore incentivizing outliers on the higher end of the distribution to do so.
Other things that can lead to tragedy of the commons socially are: constant use of insults, profanity, people not cleaning up after themselves, not saying hello to people when appropriate, not being honest and virtuous, not policing people who do these things, and other non-civil behavior. These things result in these toxins proliferating (since there is no immune system that can stop it) and result in loneliness, alienation, cultural degeneracy, disgusting public places, people just like each other less and other consequences that effect everyone in the system.

Now, how does this tie back into looksmax.org?
Among the active users... (I used to be guilty of some of these too)
  • Many find humor in insulting people who post high effort content or just do it for fun despite it not being necessary whatsoever.
  • Some post degenerate content (NSFW, etc.) that encourage men to be/continue to be porn-addicted degenerates.
  • Many posts useless brainrot that maximizes reputation.
  • Some post content that they know are not good to post, but that intuition is shoved down the back of their skull to satisfy their impulses.
  • and much more...
All of these things actively HURT the forum for everyone, and we're seeing the long-term effects of these toxic behaviors.
People here do not realize that the consequences of these behaviors are...
  • Good users flee (just like higher IQ, competent third worlders leave their shitholes behind)
  • Bad users multiply (no immune system to counteract toxic conduct, and they actually BUILD cultures around these kinds of conduct)
  • The forum becomes increasingly unwelcoming and unlikeable (so even sane normies flee)
  • Leaves the most disgusting users to blossom in numbers.
  • People commit suicide due to insults, suggestions and hyperbolized truths (ex. @Schery6 constantly being told to rope, for fun btw)
  • The cycle repeats until the entire system collapses (the trash users can't maintain the system the good users and founders built for them)
Please, there are nations and ethnic groups in the world where, due to the majority of people having these traits, create or degraded into cultures and institutions where this type of thing is rampant, and therefore can not civilize. Please, don't act like those people and bring it to looksmax.org.
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I hope this short thread grants you the perspicacity to peer into the social dynamics of degradation on this forum.

-@enchanted_elixir
 
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I was just thinking that everything that could possibly be talked about is already in botb so people just have fun these days. I'm new here though I probably don't know what I'm talking about
 
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Did you rise from your grave or I just didn't see your recent posts?
 
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Everything comes to an end
 
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Bros back
 
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@enchanted_elixir threads are the only ones i read all the way
 
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probably best to make the distinction between rotting and simply using the forum. a lot of the contributors that make the backbone of .org are rotters, who literally spend hours on here a day doing nothing truly productive. other users are much more moderate and take what info they need to go and slay.

a sad case of the most extreme ones being the most vocal.
 
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I've successfully inhaled all of the molecules and can conclude that this is a very accurate assessment of the current degeneracy occurring right now as we speak.
 
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Prelude

I have already explained in great detail about my theory on the degradatory decline of looksmax.org. The theory has been holding very well so far.

Please refer to that thread if you are interested in learning about my theory. The summary of that thread is as follows.

Spoiler: Summary of thread (ChatGPT)
The text applies Oswald Spengler's theory of civilization cycles to the evolution of Looksmax culture on Looksmax.org, detailing its rise and potential decline through several stages:

  1. Ethnogenesis (Early 2010s): A diverse community forms around the shared goal of self-improvement in appearance, united by cultural, linguistic, and environmental commonalities. This identity emerges in response to societal pressures and a desire for aesthetic enhancement.
  2. Culturogenesis (Mid-2010s to 2017): The ideology solidifies, influenced by anti-PUA and redpill forums. Key beliefs are established, such as the notion that women prioritize looks in men and the importance of "aesthetic capital." A unique dialect develops, incorporating terms like "coloringmax" and "mogging."
  3. Innovation (2017-2021): This period is heralded as the "Golden Age" of Looksmax.org, characterized by a vibrant exchange of ideas and knowledge about self-improvement techniques. However, early signs of degeneration begin to manifest by 2021.
  4. Peak (2022-2023): Looksmax culture reaches its zenith, significantly influencing Western youth and gaining mainstream visibility. While innovation continues, the community begins to lose its dynamism and creative energy.
  5. Degeneracy & Corruption (2024-Present): The forum suffers a marked decline, with contributions becoming repetitive and low-effort. High-quality discussions are overshadowed by negativity and superficial content, leading to a culture that increasingly praises mediocrity.
The text forecasts three potential futures for Looksmax culture: a revival led by a transformative user and their threads, a chaotic internal conflict (cyberwar that emerges from a FUOTY competition) that will lead to a decay, or a gradual decay into irrelevance and dysfunction, that eventually leads to the death of the forum as Master won't have money to keep it going and it gets entirely colonized by turbomegarotters and the amount of active users and lurkers dwindle significantly.

Certainly! Here are the three potential futures for Looksmax culture, as outlined in the text:

  1. A True Revival: A charismatic user emerges as a leader, inspiring the community and revitalizing the forum. This individual introduces innovative ideas or techniques—either in genetics or psychic enhancement—that profoundly reshape the Looksmax worldview. This revival reignites creativity and encourages high-quality contributions, leading the forum back into a new era of cultural and intellectual flourishing.
  2. A Fake, Failed Revival: A coalition of users attempts to take control of the forum, but their efforts lead to factionalism and internal conflict. Two opposing groups—one advocating for high-quality content and the other promoting low-effort contributions—clash in a cyberwar. Ultimately, this struggle results in chaos, with neither side effectively improving the culture, leading to a superficial victory and continued degeneration of the community.
    1. It can definitely be argued that FUOTY 2024 was the year this happened. Click here for evidence
  3. Direct Transition to Decay: The forum continues on its current trajectory of decline without significant intervention. Users become increasingly disengaged, with the Looksmax section becoming nearly abandoned. As the community grows toxic and less appealing, many members leave to focus on their lives outside the forum. This leads to dwindling activity, and the site may eventually face operational issues, culminating in its demise as a vibrant cultural space.
Dead forums examples: https://www.longecity.org/forum/ (almost dead) or https://forum.biohack.me/ (died a few months ago)

Ultimately, it argues that Looksmax culture is at a serious, probable risk of dissolution, unable to reclaim its former vibrancy or adapt meaningfully.

I obviously refuse to go into a deep sociological analysis into all the processes underlying the rot of this forum (and the West in general) but I will definitely tell you the most important things to know.



Analysis
To begin, online forums share similar dynamics to nations and groups of people, they are not exempt.

All of the advanced nations and regions in the world such as Europe (particularly Germanic Europe), East Asia, and their derivative/descendant nations and regions are advanced due to a plethora of factors, but one of the most pertinent set of factors is that these societies actively punish behaviors that would lead to a tragedy of the commons situation and destroy their civilization (they used to in the West, but...)

One of the main factors we are witnessing on this website is a tragedy of the commons situation, where people behaving in their self-interest damage the forum for everyone.

This is actually one of the primary shithole regions and countries in the world like Venezuela, Haiti, and most of the countries in the Middle East and Black Africa are the way they are... because people in these places behave purely in their own self-interest at the expense of everyone in the system, including them (self here includes anything they care about).
  • Cause: Median individual not minding to engage in deception/theft/poor conduct of all kinds
  • Long term effect on the system and is constituents: Destroys trust, makes it cooperation in that area harder, increases fear and stress, increases aggression, decreases the amount of people available for cooperation therefore making unification and large projects requiring large groups of people working together over space and time impossible, susceptible humiliation by other groups (if it persists + other groups are standards of deviations more advanced than you), makes it impossible to run companies, supermarkets, online marketplaces there since most people would not mind trying to deceive from you for their own benefit, (therefore makes having a techno-industial society fundamentally and utterly impossible, and therefore they have no choice but to either stay agricultural, or have underdeveloped cities infested with crime)
Of course, there are many more, and many of these traits do coincide with lower intelligence and/or lower prefrontal cortex and self-regulation capacity - or living in a society where the median person has those traits, therefore incentivizing outliers on the higher end of the distribution to do so.
Other things that can lead to tragedy of the commons socially are: constant use of insults, profanity, people not cleaning up after themselves, not saying hello to people when appropriate, not being honest and virtuous, not policing people who do these things, and other non-civil behavior. These things result in these toxins proliferating (since there is no immune system that can stop it) and result in loneliness, alienation, cultural degeneracy, disgusting public places, people just like each other less and other consequences that effect everyone in the system.

Now, how does this tie back into looksmax.org?
Among the active users... (I used to be guilty of some of these too)
  • Many find humor in insulting people who post high effort content or just do it for fun despite it not being necessary whatsoever.
  • Some post degenerate content (NSFW, etc.) that encourage men to be/continue to be porn-addicted degenerates.
  • Many posts useless brainrot that maximizes reputation.
  • Some post content that they know are not good to post, but that intuition is shoved down the back of their skull to satisfy their impulses.
  • and much more...
All of these things actively HURT the forum for everyone, and we're seeing the long-term effects of these toxic behaviors.
People here do not realize that the consequences of these behaviors are...
  • Good users flee (just like higher IQ, competent third worlders leave their shitholes behind)
  • Bad users multiply (no immune system to counteract toxic conduct, and they actually BUILD cultures around these kinds of conduct)
  • The forum becomes increasingly unwelcoming and unlikeable (so even sane normies flee)
  • Leaves the most disgusting users to blossom in numbers.
  • People commit suicide due to insults, suggestions and hyperbolized truths (ex. @Schery6 constantly being told to rope, for fun btw)
  • The cycle repeats until the entire system collapses (the trash users can't maintain the system the good users and founders built for them)
Please, there are nations and ethnic groups in the world where, due to the majority of people having these traits, create or degraded into cultures and institutions where this type of thing is rampant, and therefore can not civilize. Please, don't act like those people and bring it to looksmax.org.
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I hope this short thread grants you the perspicacity to peer into the social dynamics of degradation on this forum.

-@enchanted_elixir
Without me the forum would be boring 😅 (people barely remember me)
 
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Prelude

I have already explained in great detail about my theory on the degradatory decline of looksmax.org. The theory has been holding very well so far.

Please refer to that thread if you are interested in learning about my theory. The summary of that thread is as follows.

Spoiler: Summary of thread (ChatGPT)
The text applies Oswald Spengler's theory of civilization cycles to the evolution of Looksmax culture on Looksmax.org, detailing its rise and potential decline through several stages:

  1. Ethnogenesis (Early 2010s): A diverse community forms around the shared goal of self-improvement in appearance, united by cultural, linguistic, and environmental commonalities. This identity emerges in response to societal pressures and a desire for aesthetic enhancement.
  2. Culturogenesis (Mid-2010s to 2017): The ideology solidifies, influenced by anti-PUA and redpill forums. Key beliefs are established, such as the notion that women prioritize looks in men and the importance of "aesthetic capital." A unique dialect develops, incorporating terms like "coloringmax" and "mogging."
  3. Innovation (2017-2021): This period is heralded as the "Golden Age" of Looksmax.org, characterized by a vibrant exchange of ideas and knowledge about self-improvement techniques. However, early signs of degeneration begin to manifest by 2021.
  4. Peak (2022-2023): Looksmax culture reaches its zenith, significantly influencing Western youth and gaining mainstream visibility. While innovation continues, the community begins to lose its dynamism and creative energy.
  5. Degeneracy & Corruption (2024-Present): The forum suffers a marked decline, with contributions becoming repetitive and low-effort. High-quality discussions are overshadowed by negativity and superficial content, leading to a culture that increasingly praises mediocrity.
The text forecasts three potential futures for Looksmax culture: a revival led by a transformative user and their threads, a chaotic internal conflict (cyberwar that emerges from a FUOTY competition) that will lead to a decay, or a gradual decay into irrelevance and dysfunction, that eventually leads to the death of the forum as Master won't have money to keep it going and it gets entirely colonized by turbomegarotters and the amount of active users and lurkers dwindle significantly.

Certainly! Here are the three potential futures for Looksmax culture, as outlined in the text:

  1. A True Revival: A charismatic user emerges as a leader, inspiring the community and revitalizing the forum. This individual introduces innovative ideas or techniques—either in genetics or psychic enhancement—that profoundly reshape the Looksmax worldview. This revival reignites creativity and encourages high-quality contributions, leading the forum back into a new era of cultural and intellectual flourishing.
  2. A Fake, Failed Revival: A coalition of users attempts to take control of the forum, but their efforts lead to factionalism and internal conflict. Two opposing groups—one advocating for high-quality content and the other promoting low-effort contributions—clash in a cyberwar. Ultimately, this struggle results in chaos, with neither side effectively improving the culture, leading to a superficial victory and continued degeneration of the community.
    1. It can definitely be argued that FUOTY 2024 was the year this happened. Click here for evidence
  3. Direct Transition to Decay: The forum continues on its current trajectory of decline without significant intervention. Users become increasingly disengaged, with the Looksmax section becoming nearly abandoned. As the community grows toxic and less appealing, many members leave to focus on their lives outside the forum. This leads to dwindling activity, and the site may eventually face operational issues, culminating in its demise as a vibrant cultural space.
Dead forums examples: https://www.longecity.org/forum/ (almost dead) or https://forum.biohack.me/ (died a few months ago)

Ultimately, it argues that Looksmax culture is at a serious, probable risk of dissolution, unable to reclaim its former vibrancy or adapt meaningfully.

I obviously refuse to go into a deep sociological analysis into all the processes underlying the rot of this forum (and the West in general) but I will definitely tell you the most important things to know.



Analysis
To begin, online forums share similar dynamics to nations and groups of people, they are not exempt.

All of the advanced nations and regions in the world such as Europe (particularly Germanic Europe), East Asia, and their derivative/descendant nations and regions are advanced due to a plethora of factors, but one of the most pertinent set of factors is that these societies actively punish behaviors that would lead to a tragedy of the commons situation and destroy their civilization (they used to in the West, but...)

One of the main factors we are witnessing on this website is a tragedy of the commons situation, where people behaving in their self-interest damage the forum for everyone.

This is actually one of the primary shithole regions and countries in the world like Venezuela, Haiti, and most of the countries in the Middle East and Black Africa are the way they are... because people in these places behave purely in their own self-interest at the expense of everyone in the system, including them (self here includes anything they care about).
  • Cause: Median individual not minding to engage in deception/theft/poor conduct of all kinds
  • Long term effect on the system and is constituents: Destroys trust, makes it cooperation in that area harder, increases fear and stress, increases aggression, decreases the amount of people available for cooperation therefore making unification and large projects requiring large groups of people working together over space and time impossible, susceptible humiliation by other groups (if it persists + other groups are standards of deviations more advanced than you), makes it impossible to run companies, supermarkets, online marketplaces there since most people would not mind trying to deceive from you for their own benefit, (therefore makes having a techno-industial society fundamentally and utterly impossible, and therefore they have no choice but to either stay agricultural, or have underdeveloped cities infested with crime)
Of course, there are many more, and many of these traits do coincide with lower intelligence and/or lower prefrontal cortex and self-regulation capacity - or living in a society where the median person has those traits, therefore incentivizing outliers on the higher end of the distribution to do so.
Other things that can lead to tragedy of the commons socially are: constant use of insults, profanity, people not cleaning up after themselves, not saying hello to people when appropriate, not being honest and virtuous, not policing people who do these things, and other non-civil behavior. These things result in these toxins proliferating (since there is no immune system that can stop it) and result in loneliness, alienation, cultural degeneracy, disgusting public places, people just like each other less and other consequences that effect everyone in the system.

Now, how does this tie back into looksmax.org?
Among the active users... (I used to be guilty of some of these too)
  • Many find humor in insulting people who post high effort content or just do it for fun despite it not being necessary whatsoever.
  • Some post degenerate content (NSFW, etc.) that encourage men to be/continue to be porn-addicted degenerates.
  • Many posts useless brainrot that maximizes reputation.
  • Some post content that they know are not good to post, but that intuition is shoved down the back of their skull to satisfy their impulses.
  • and much more...
All of these things actively HURT the forum for everyone, and we're seeing the long-term effects of these toxic behaviors.
People here do not realize that the consequences of these behaviors are...
  • Good users flee (just like higher IQ, competent third worlders leave their shitholes behind)
  • Bad users multiply (no immune system to counteract toxic conduct, and they actually BUILD cultures around these kinds of conduct)
  • The forum becomes increasingly unwelcoming and unlikeable (so even sane normies flee)
  • Leaves the most disgusting users to blossom in numbers.
  • People commit suicide due to insults, suggestions and hyperbolized truths (ex. @Schery6 constantly being told to rope, for fun btw)
  • The cycle repeats until the entire system collapses (the trash users can't maintain the system the good users and founders built for them)
Please, there are nations and ethnic groups in the world where, due to the majority of people having these traits, create or degraded into cultures and institutions where this type of thing is rampant, and therefore can not civilize. Please, don't act like those people and bring it to looksmax.org.
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I hope this short thread grants you the perspicacity to peer into the social dynamics of degradation on this forum.

-@enchanted_elixir
Tbh all the TikTok fags and normies invaded the forum and ruined it.

Most truecels either ascended and moved on or roped
 
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dnr tbh bud
 
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dnr but they should make the forum mayo only, that would solve everything
 
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At the end of the day, ascensions still happens so that's the most important
 
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Prelude

I have already explained in great detail about my theory on the degradatory decline of looksmax.org. The theory has been holding very well so far.

Please refer to that thread if you are interested in learning about my theory. The summary of that thread is as follows.

Spoiler: Summary of thread (ChatGPT)
The text applies Oswald Spengler's theory of civilization cycles to the evolution of Looksmax culture on Looksmax.org, detailing its rise and potential decline through several stages:

  1. Ethnogenesis (Early 2010s): A diverse community forms around the shared goal of self-improvement in appearance, united by cultural, linguistic, and environmental commonalities. This identity emerges in response to societal pressures and a desire for aesthetic enhancement.
  2. Culturogenesis (Mid-2010s to 2017): The ideology solidifies, influenced by anti-PUA and redpill forums. Key beliefs are established, such as the notion that women prioritize looks in men and the importance of "aesthetic capital." A unique dialect develops, incorporating terms like "coloringmax" and "mogging."
  3. Innovation (2017-2021): This period is heralded as the "Golden Age" of Looksmax.org, characterized by a vibrant exchange of ideas and knowledge about self-improvement techniques. However, early signs of degeneration begin to manifest by 2021.
  4. Peak (2022-2023): Looksmax culture reaches its zenith, significantly influencing Western youth and gaining mainstream visibility. While innovation continues, the community begins to lose its dynamism and creative energy.
  5. Degeneracy & Corruption (2024-Present): The forum suffers a marked decline, with contributions becoming repetitive and low-effort. High-quality discussions are overshadowed by negativity and superficial content, leading to a culture that increasingly praises mediocrity.
The text forecasts three potential futures for Looksmax culture: a revival led by a transformative user and their threads, a chaotic internal conflict (cyberwar that emerges from a FUOTY competition) that will lead to a decay, or a gradual decay into irrelevance and dysfunction, that eventually leads to the death of the forum as Master won't have money to keep it going and it gets entirely colonized by turbomegarotters and the amount of active users and lurkers dwindle significantly.

Certainly! Here are the three potential futures for Looksmax culture, as outlined in the text:

  1. A True Revival: A charismatic user emerges as a leader, inspiring the community and revitalizing the forum. This individual introduces innovative ideas or techniques—either in genetics or psychic enhancement—that profoundly reshape the Looksmax worldview. This revival reignites creativity and encourages high-quality contributions, leading the forum back into a new era of cultural and intellectual flourishing.
  2. A Fake, Failed Revival: A coalition of users attempts to take control of the forum, but their efforts lead to factionalism and internal conflict. Two opposing groups—one advocating for high-quality content and the other promoting low-effort contributions—clash in a cyberwar. Ultimately, this struggle results in chaos, with neither side effectively improving the culture, leading to a superficial victory and continued degeneration of the community.
    1. It can definitely be argued that FUOTY 2024 was the year this happened. Click here for evidence
  3. Direct Transition to Decay: The forum continues on its current trajectory of decline without significant intervention. Users become increasingly disengaged, with the Looksmax section becoming nearly abandoned. As the community grows toxic and less appealing, many members leave to focus on their lives outside the forum. This leads to dwindling activity, and the site may eventually face operational issues, culminating in its demise as a vibrant cultural space.
Dead forums examples: https://www.longecity.org/forum/ (almost dead) or https://forum.biohack.me/ (died a few months ago)

Ultimately, it argues that Looksmax culture is at a serious, probable risk of dissolution, unable to reclaim its former vibrancy or adapt meaningfully.

I obviously refuse to go into a deep sociological analysis into all the processes underlying the rot of this forum (and the West in general) but I will definitely tell you the most important things to know.



Analysis
To begin, online forums share similar dynamics to nations and groups of people, they are not exempt.

All of the advanced nations and regions in the world such as Europe (particularly Germanic Europe), East Asia, and their derivative/descendant nations and regions are advanced due to a plethora of factors, but one of the most pertinent set of factors is that these societies actively punish behaviors that would lead to a tragedy of the commons situation and destroy their civilization (they used to in the West, but...)

One of the main factors we are witnessing on this website is a tragedy of the commons situation, where people behaving in their self-interest damage the forum for everyone.

This is actually one of the primary shithole regions and countries in the world like Venezuela, Haiti, and most of the countries in the Middle East and Black Africa are the way they are... because people in these places behave purely in their own self-interest at the expense of everyone in the system, including them (self here includes anything they care about).
  • Cause: Median individual not minding to engage in deception/theft/poor conduct of all kinds
  • Long term effect on the system and is constituents: Destroys trust, makes it cooperation in that area harder, increases fear and stress, increases aggression, decreases the amount of people available for cooperation therefore making unification and large projects requiring large groups of people working together over space and time impossible, susceptible humiliation by other groups (if it persists + other groups are standards of deviations more advanced than you), makes it impossible to run companies, supermarkets, online marketplaces there since most people would not mind trying to deceive from you for their own benefit, (therefore makes having a techno-industial society fundamentally and utterly impossible, and therefore they have no choice but to either stay agricultural, or have underdeveloped cities infested with crime)
Of course, there are many more, and many of these traits do coincide with lower intelligence and/or lower prefrontal cortex and self-regulation capacity - or living in a society where the median person has those traits, therefore incentivizing outliers on the higher end of the distribution to do so.
Other things that can lead to tragedy of the commons socially are: constant use of insults, profanity, people not cleaning up after themselves, not saying hello to people when appropriate, not being honest and virtuous, not policing people who do these things, and other non-civil behavior. These things result in these toxins proliferating (since there is no immune system that can stop it) and result in loneliness, alienation, cultural degeneracy, disgusting public places, people just like each other less and other consequences that effect everyone in the system.

Now, how does this tie back into looksmax.org?
Among the active users... (I used to be guilty of some of these too)
  • Many find humor in insulting people who post high effort content or just do it for fun despite it not being necessary whatsoever.
  • Some post degenerate content (NSFW, etc.) that encourage men to be/continue to be porn-addicted degenerates.
  • Many posts useless brainrot that maximizes reputation.
  • Some post content that they know are not good to post, but that intuition is shoved down the back of their skull to satisfy their impulses.
  • and much more...
All of these things actively HURT the forum for everyone, and we're seeing the long-term effects of these toxic behaviors.
People here do not realize that the consequences of these behaviors are...
  • Good users flee (just like higher IQ, competent third worlders leave their shitholes behind)
  • Bad users multiply (no immune system to counteract toxic conduct, and they actually BUILD cultures around these kinds of conduct)
  • The forum becomes increasingly unwelcoming and unlikeable (so even sane normies flee)
  • Leaves the most disgusting users to blossom in numbers.
  • People commit suicide due to insults, suggestions and hyperbolized truths (ex. @Schery6 constantly being told to rope, for fun btw)
  • The cycle repeats until the entire system collapses (the trash users can't maintain the system the good users and founders built for them)
Please, there are nations and ethnic groups in the world where, due to the majority of people having these traits, create or degraded into cultures and institutions where this type of thing is rampant, and therefore can not civilize. Please, don't act like those people and bring it to looksmax.org.
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I hope this short thread grants you the perspicacity to peer into the social dynamics of degradation on this forum.

-@enchanted_elixir
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