One of the best jaw surgery transformations ive ever seen

[bigseedy]

legit the equivalent to respawning

 

[Animepilled]

his chin looks so much bigger. like it's an implant

 

[GymcellingForLife]

SFS classic, but nah even in sfs territory this ascension is unique. Havent come across a better trimax ascension which sadly means thats its not the case for most

 

[bigseedy]

SFS classic, but nah even in sfs territory this ascension is unique. Havent come across a better trimax ascension which sadly means thats its not the case for most

i got SFS myself and surgery lined up at some point later this year. this guy is 60k EUR however

 

[MagicalWaves]

his chin looks so much bigger. like it's an implant

genio combined most likely

 

[Buddyboyo2]

He gained so much more confidence

 

[GymcellingForLife]

i got SFS myself and surgery lined up at some point later this year. this guy is 60k EUR however

Your SFS is most likely not as severe as his, i bet you are just missing a bit of lower third height. Not actual skeletal bite complications. But tell me how it is, if your bite is fine etc.

 

[bigseedy]

Your SFS is most likely not as severe as his, i bet you are just missing a bit of lower third height. Not actual skeletal bite complications. But tell me how it is, if your bite is fine etc.

not as bad nah but still bad. very minimal upper teeth show, class 3. believe my surgeon has stated the plan is a 5mm downgraft, 4mm upper maxilla movement and 12mm lower jaw

 

[bigseedy]

genio combined most likely

he did have a genio yeah

Short and receded face with class II & deep bite, managed with our “Face Push” concept.
It requires full cooperation with an expert orthodontist.
Maxillomandibular advancement plus maxilla downgrafting and genioplasty brought the face to the appropriate dimension
It is all about deciding where to 3D accurately position all facial bones in order to produce facial harmony
our minimally Invasive approaches allowed for a short surgery (95’) and recovery time
Perfect orthodontic management of the arches by @lorenteortodoncia, was essential to achieve this result.

 

[GymcellingForLife]

not as bad nah but still bad. very minimal upper teeth show, class 3. believe my surgeon has stated the plan is a 5mm downgraft, 4mm upper maxilla movement and 12mm lower jaw

holy 12mm is alot of mandibular movement. I would have an severe underbite if i had that much movement

 

[MagicalWaves]

he did have a genio yeah

Short and receded face with class II & deep bite, managed with our “Face Push” concept.
It requires full cooperation with an expert orthodontist.
Maxillomandibular advancement plus maxilla downgrafting and genioplasty brought the face to the appropriate dimension
It is all about deciding where to 3D accurately position all facial bones in order to produce facial harmony
our minimally Invasive approaches allowed for a short surgery (95’) and recovery time
Perfect orthodontic management of the arches by @lorenteortodoncia, was essential to achieve this result.

nigga is this an ad

 

[bigseedy]

nigga is this an ad

no LMAO i just copied it from the instagram post, i wish that surgeon sponsored me nigga he'd save my life

 

[tyler1234]

This surgeon writes fake reviews on his page Apperantly

 

[GymcellingForLife]

he did have a genio yeah

Short and receded face with class II & deep bite, managed with our “Face Push” concept.
It requires full cooperation with an expert orthodontist.
Maxillomandibular advancement plus maxilla downgrafting and genioplasty brought the face to the appropriate dimension
It is all about deciding where to 3D accurately position all facial bones in order to produce facial harmony
our minimally Invasive approaches allowed for a short surgery (95’) and recovery time
Perfect orthodontic management of the arches by @lorenteortodoncia, was essential to achieve this result.

Yeah ortho is very good when assessing a deep bite, but most people here dont really grasp that. Its often more dental than that its skeletal for most people. Im getting invisalign for my deep bite. Getting both my arches expanded aswell. Im happy more Oral Space coming soon

 

[bigseedy]

Yeah ortho is very good when assessing a deep bite, but most people here dont really grasp that. Its often more dental than that its skeletal for most people. Im getting invisalign for my deep bite. Getting both my arches expanded aswell. Im happy more Oral Space coming soon

you doing palate expansion or just dental expansion through invisalign?

 

[GymcellingForLife]

you doing palate expansion or just dental expansion through invisalign?

Dental expansion. My palate isnt that narrow, im already more of a brachy type skull. Also a pretty broad nose already. Expanding that would fuck me more than help my aesthetics

 

[bigseedy]

This surgeon writes fake reviews on his page Apperantly

hes botched alot of people now but probs still does the best downgrafts on earth. hes definitely washed though. was massive in the jaw surgery space years ago

 

[GymcellingForLife]

hes botched alot of people now but probs still does the best downgrafts on earth. hes definitely washed though. was massive in the jaw surgery space years ago

Why does every surgeon go to shit after having success? Im just hearing more and more horror stories from surgeons recommended here for the past years. Shit sucks for ascending

 

[bigseedy]

Why does every surgeon go to shit after having success? Im just hearing more and more horror stories from surgeons recommended here for the past years. Shit sucks for ascending

ive been in the jaw surgery space for years now. seen so many surgeons become highly regarded in lookism and sleep disordered breathing spaces, just to have 3-4 botches in a row. there's someone i knew years ago in the sleep space who raised so much money just to end up botched by the surgeon in this post actually.

at the moment i think the best move is to find the best surgeons in your country/immediate proximity, get their planning sheets showing specific movements and simulations - and go from there

literally some of the best results ive seen havent come from the italian trio, or the well regarded american surgeons. it's been local surgeons in facebook groups doing it for bite/sleep issues rather than aesthetics.

 

[GymcellingForLife]

ive been in the jaw surgery space for years now. seen so many surgeons become highly regarded in lookism and sleep disordered breathing spaces, just to have 3-4 botches in a row. there's someone i knew years ago in the sleep space who raised so much money just to end up botched by the surgeon in this post actually.

at the moment i think the best move is to find the best surgeons in your country/immediate proximity, get their planning sheets showing specific movements and simulations - and go from there

literally some of the best results ive seen havent come from the italian trio, or the well regarded american surgeons. it's been local surgeons in facebook groups doing it for bite/sleep issues rather than aesthetics.

You seem to have a very based view on the things. Im want to go the same route. Getting my teeth fixxed first, (btw i have the luck of not paying, my parents do) and than i look into other things.

 

[tyler1234]

Getting the teeth fixed is useless cause it have to do another round of braces before surgery

You seem to have a very based view on the things. Im want to go the same route. Getting my teeth fixxed first, (btw i have the luck of not paying, my parents do) and than i look into other thing

 

[Realism]

Doesn't Alfaro have a tendency to dogmax and botch a lot

 

[_Lucius]

Doesn't Alfaro have a tendency to dogmax and botch a lot

He probably has the most botches out of all the big surgeons.

 

[Animepilled]

Doesn't Alfaro have a tendency to dogmax and botch a lot

dogmaxxes are sleep apnea cases, this is not exclusive to alfaro