One of the most legit theories in PSL (Size Theory)

[Deleted member 2846]

SIZE THEORY

BIGGER= BETTER
WIDE SHOULDERS= INSTANT SEX APPEAL
TALL= INSTANT SEX APPEAL

Primitively speaking, women want a man who can physically dominate other men. The bigger and taller he is, the more “protective” he is seen as.

If you are above 5’10, you NEED to get big. I’m not talking about about getting this big:

But you’re going to want to put on some lean muscle and possibly wear lifted shoes. My favorite shoes that give me about an inch boost are Adidas Ultra Boost. They are kinda expensive but they look good and no one will ever question you about you looking “tall” in them.

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WIDE SHOULDERS (framlets, I’m so sorry)
Wide shoulders are very attractive to women and indicate masculinity and fighting ability
Shoulders are very important for sexual attraction and also gaining respect from other men. You don’t need to have a 25” (63cm) bideltoid, but having a narrow shoulders (short clavicles) is a death sentence.

If your clavicles are shorts like this guy (I circled the. clavicle):

you’re fucked. You can go to Eppley for shoulder widening but you can only get an inch per side (which is still a big improvement tbh).

—————
BEING TALL
This one is pretty self explanatory. As long as you’re 6’ (183cm) and up, you really shouldn’t be insecure about your height unless you have inferiority complex from your childhood. Hell, even if you’re 5’11 (181cm), you’re good.

I can tell you from first hand experience, women HATE SHORT MEN. It is the least masculine trait. If you’re below 5’5, I am sorry. There’s countless studies showing how women find taller= better.
If you’re short, have a small penis, or have narrow clavicles, DO NOT CLICK THIS STUDY
^^One of the most BRUTAL studies out there tbh.

Obviously, you should always strive to get an inch or two if you can. As I said above, Ultra Boosts are great for an inch of height and Doc Martens if you can pull them off. They can give you 2” and they are very trendy so no one will give you shit for trying to fraud your height.

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CONCLUSION: Height and frame make a man.
A 6’4, wide shouldered 4PSL man will be viewed as MORE MANLY than a 5’8, average/narrow shouldered, 6PSL man.

Paging: @cocainecowboy @Dope @SirGey

 

[Achathin]

Dn read but good thread

 

[FatJattMofo]

but calum von moger roidmaxxed and became huge

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Dn read but good thread

Ty, it’s only my second post I’ve actually put effort into lol.

 

[FatJattMofo]

Ty, it’s only my second post I’ve actually put effort into lol.

indeed. you look a bit like frankie tufano.
if thats you in your avi.
but way better

 

[janoycresva]

that model with the narrow shoulders has a thick neck, pretty sure he mogs 90% of guys, i wouldn't give a fuck about shoulders if i looked like that.

Im sure he'd look even better with wider shoulders tho

 

[Deleted member 2846]

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that model with the narrow shoulders has a thick neck, pretty sure he mogs 90% of guys, i wouldn't give a fuck about shoulders if i looked like that.

Im sure he'd look even better with wider shoulders tho

Neckmaxxing is legit. He would look much better with wider shoulders. He had a good inserts and has no trouble with women I’d imagine. He just has small clavicles.

 

[Deleted member 2275]

You can increase overall shoulder width by working out shoulders, probably not enough to mitigate short clavicles but still.

 

[BigBoy]

I agree but disagree with your conclusion. Face>all cope if you say otherwise

 

[Deleted member 2846]

You can increase overall shoulder width by working out shoulders, probably not enough to mitigate short clavicles but still.

Yes of course. One of the most common misconceptions I’ve seen here is people thinking they have shit frames just because they are skinny.

If you have long clavicles but are skinny, you just need to put on muscle and your frame will look bigger.

 

[Deleted member 2227]

BIGGER BONES? BETTER BRO

 

[Deleted member 2846]

I agree but disagree with your conclusion. Face>all cope if you say otherwise

I disagree. Height and frame are extremely dimorphic. You can instantly tell if someone is a man or woman from 200 feet away just by looking at their body. Yes, if a guy is 6’5, 26” bideltoid but 3PSL face, he will have little success with women. In the extremes, face matters, but if the face is average, it won’t matter.

 

[Deleted member 2933]

A 5,7 sex haver guy mogs a 6'5 non sex haver guy, therefore, theory denied.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

A 5,7 sex haver guy mogs a 6'5 non sex haver guy, therefore, theory denied.

Aren’t you like 3PSL? Looking at my comment above. Face matters in the extremes, and you are one of those cases where you need a better face.

Idk what your body looks like but it’s definitely not gymmaxxed. Get lean muscle then come back and disagree with me.

 

[Deleted member 2275]

Aren’t you like 3PSL?

 

[Deleted member 2486]

A 5,7 sex haver guy mogs a 6'5 non sex haver guy, therefore, theory denied.

i see literal ogres at my gym with 5-6 psl cute gf, occasioan 7 too. you would be baffled at their long bug eyes midfaces

 

[Deleted member 2275]

Doc Martens if you can pull them off. They can give you 2” and they are very trendy so no one will give you shit for trying to fraud your height.

Also people shit on PewDiePie hard for martenfrauding, granted he has way more public exposure, but still

 

[Deleted member 245]

Height and frame have diminishing returns tbh.

Assuming frame is normal, after 6'0" it's all about face.

 

[Deleted member 2933]

Aren’t you like 3PSL? Looking at my comment above. Face matters in the extremes, and you are one of those cases where you need a better face.

Idk what your body looks like but it’s definitely not gymmaxxed. Get lean muscle then come back and disagree with me.

Ive gained 15kg of muscles until June, then Face theory hit me up, i lost it all in 4 months and im skinny again.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Also people shit on PewDiePie hard for martenfrauding, granted he has way more public exposure, but still

Hes a celebrity. If I were to walk around in Doc Martens, no one would give me shit other than maybe my friends saying “HAHA nice Doc’s bro”

Height and frame have diminishing returns tbh.

Assuming frame is normal, after 6'0" it's all about face.

 

[Dogs]

manly != attractive

 

[Deleted member 2846]

manly != attractive

In the extremes, yes.

 

[Deleted member 245]

Hes a celebrity. If I were to walk around in Doc Martens, no one would give me shit other than maybe my friends saying “HAHA nice Doc’s bro”

Still matters little compared to face after the above average threshold. Just because they would prefer extremes doesn't mean that face improvement won't net you greater benefit.

Height and frame function more as bottlenecks/disqualifiers than anything.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Still matters little compared to face after the above average threshold.

Height and frame function more as bottlenecks/disqualifiers than anything.

If you’re 5PSL and are 6’4 with wide shoulders, you’ll be attractive to 95% of women.

 

[Deleted member 245]

If you’re 5PSL and are 6’4 with wide shoulders, you’ll be attractive to 95% of women.

What percentile do you consider 5PSL

 

[Darth Cialis]

WTF is this homoerotic fantasy, 6 PSL mogs to oblivion.

 

[Deleted member 2745]

Yes of course. One of the most common misconceptions I’ve seen here is people thinking they have shit frames just because they are skinny.

If you have long clavicles but are skinny, you just need to put on muscle and your frame will look bigger.

Exactly.
I've seen people think that a framecel became extremely big.
But what people fail to realise is that he wasn't really a framecel, be was just extremely skinny, but had a very good frame.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

What percentile do you consider 5PSL

Mathematically, isn’t it like ~68th percentile?

 

[Deleted member 245]

Mathematically, isn’t it like ~68th percentile?

I highly doubt it would halo a 68th percentile face that much tbh.

Maybe 80th.

 

[Deleted member 2745]

I highly doubt it would halo a 68th percentile face that much tbh.

Maybe 80th.

5 is closer to an 80.

 

[Deleted member 1553]

Aqueous fluid is aqueous.

 

[BigBoy]

Aqueous fluid is aqueous.

My dick is small

 

[Deleted member 2205]

WTF is this homoerotic fantasy, 6 PSL mogs to oblivion.

80% of this forum will never reach 6psl even through extensive surgery.

 

[Deleted member 2788]

Good thread. Glad we have jelqs to increase pp size lol

 

[Amnesia]

girth is the only physical predictor of slaying

first result check out that thread, size is everything for actual slaying apparently, even more than looks.

 

[Deleted member 2486]

- muhh frame/muscles dont matter
- muhh don't go to the gym, it's cope
- muhh if you go to the gym, u must use steroids, otherwise its gigamegacope
- muhh you need 3 years to have any visible progress
- muhh you can only put on muscle if you're in significant caloric surplus

meanwhile this is 1 year progress, 0 steroids or any compound used, never lifted weights in my life before that, didnt have any prior knowledge about weightlifting, didn't even bulk whatsoever during the 1 year, i was always eating at maintenance or kcal deficit and lost bodyfat (i have more pure body-fat on my body on the before picture).

people would rather rot in this forum and not improve their shitty body (and make threads about how gymcelling is cope) and wagecuck on the side to save up for cyborg implants that isn't even guaranteed to make them better looking and even if it does it doesn't have that big of an effect on their perceived attractiveness compared to what they imagine in their head.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

- muhh frame/muscles dont matter
- muhh don't go to the gym, it's cope
- muhh if you go to the gym, u must use steroids, otherwise its gigamegacope
- muhh you need 3 years to have any visible progress

meanwhile this is 1 year progress, 0 steroids or any compound used, never lifted weights in my life before that, didnt have any prior knowledge about weightlifting, didn't even bulk whatsoever during the 1 year, i was always eating at maintenance or kcal deficit and lost bodyfat (i have more pure body-fat on my body on the before picture).

people would rather rot in this forum and not improve their shitty body (and make threads about how gymcelling is cope) and wagecuck on the side to save up for cyborg implants that isn't even guaranteed to make them better looking and even if it does it doesn't have that big of an effect on their perceived attractiveness compared to what they imagine in their head.

brootile

 

[Eduardo DOV]

an the water ? what about the water, man ??

 

[mattzdeb]

I have one of the most narrow frames out of all my friends in school. I am 6'2" and I was 130lb freshman year said fuck it and got to 180lb the same year using GOMAD. Now I am about 170 and I probably have one of the best aesthetic in my grade because I grinded shoulders and that v taper look. As long as your 5'11" + and your shoulder are wider than your hips you can frame maxx and you should be good.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

I have one of the most narrow frames out of all my friends in school. I am 6'2" and I was 130lb freshman year said fuck it and got to 180lb the same year using GOMAD. Now I am about 170 and I probably have one of the best aesthetic in my grade because I grinded shoulders and that v taper look. As long as your 5'11" + and your shoulder are wider than your hips you can frame maxx and you should be good.

Did you mainly focus on delts and ab area? What about arms?

 

[StuffedFrog]

SIZE THEORY

BIGGER= BETTER
WIDE SHOULDERS= INSTANT SEX APPEAL
TALL= INSTANT SEX APPEAL

Primitively speaking, women want a man who can physically dominate other men. The bigger and taller he is, the more “protective” he is seen as.

If you are above 5’10, you NEED to get big. I’m not talking about about getting this big: View attachment 124885

But you’re going to want to put on some lean muscle and possibly wear lifted shoes. My favorite shoes that give me about an inch boost are Adidas Ultra Boost. They are kinda expensive but they look good and no one will ever question you about you looking “tall” in them.

———————
WIDE SHOULDERS (framlets, I’m so sorry)
Wide shoulders are very attractive to women and indicate masculinity and fighting ability
Shoulders are very important for sexual attraction and also gaining respect from other men. You don’t need to have a 25” (63cm) bideltoid, but having a narrow shoulders (short clavicles) is a death sentence.

If your clavicles are shorts like this guy (I circled the. clavicle):
View attachment 124909
you’re fucked. You can go to Eppley for shoulder widening but you can only get an inch per side (which is still a big improvement tbh).

—————
BEING TALL
This one is pretty self explanatory. As long as you’re 6’ (183cm) and up, you really shouldn’t be insecure about your height unless you have inferiority complex from your childhood. Hell, even if you’re 5’11 (181cm), you’re good.

I can tell you from first hand experience, women HATE SHORT MEN. It is the least masculine trait. If you’re below 5’5, I am sorry. There’s countless studies showing how women find taller= better.
If you’re short, have a small penis, or have narrow clavicles, DO NOT CLICK THIS STUDY
^^One of the most BRUTAL studies out there tbh.

Obviously, you should always strive to get an inch or two if you can. As I said above, Ultra Boosts are great for an inch of height and Doc Martens if you can pull them off. They can give you 2” and they are very trendy so no one will give you shit for trying to fraud your height.

————
CONCLUSION: Height and frame make a man.
A 6’4, wide shouldered 4PSL man will be viewed as MORE MANLY than a 5’8, average/narrow shouldered, 6PSL man.

Paging: @cocainecowboy @Dope @SirGey

• rate measurements
• Chest – 47 inches
• Waist – 33 inches
• Arms / Biceps – 17 inches

 

[Deleted member 2846]

• rate measurements
• Chest – 47 inches
• Waist – 33 inches
• Arms / Biceps – 17 inches

Idk but those arms numbers look good so I’d say good. Idk my numbers but I’ll measure mine in a bit.

 

[rockndogs]

This is obvious bro

 

[StuffedFrog]

Idk but those arms numbers look good so I’d say good. Idk my numbers but I’ll measure mine in a bit.

trying to get this

 

[Deleted member 2846]

trying to get this
View attachment 125110

That’s a good aesthetic. That looks really achievable for me tbh. Do think that’s natty?

 

[mattzdeb]

Did you mainly focus on delts and ab area? What about arms?

yes I focus mainly on delts, delt raises being my favorite exercise for shoulders, I also shoulder press for girth. I have a whole day in the gym set for the back where I focus on lats which are important for v shape, and yes I used to blast the fuck out of arms at one point I was curling 45s and would have middle ages dudes pause their workouts just to stare, but I don't feel that arms add too much to the aesthetic as long as they are defined/toned, and I also purposely don't work obliques to keep my waist area looking thin. Abs might be the most important besides shoulders and I can only get them at low body fat, some of my friends are so skinny but defined and of course these dumb ass women think they are ripped asf. I have pictures of transformation for proof if anyone thinks I'm capping. If you are a skinny tallish fuck like I was I can give you tips on bulking and what natty supplements I use, never thought id be where I am now. Used to have my mom telling me I needed to be fed by IV tubes because I was so skinny, to benching 220lb in two years. Def helps with looks in summer If you are average looking at least, and if you are god-tier and gym Maxx as hard as I did then I wouldn't want to be seen next to you lol.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

yes I focus mainly on delts, delt raises being my favorite exercise for shoulders, I also shoulder press for girth. I have a whole day in the gym set for the back where I focus on lats which are important for v shape, and yes I used to blast the fuck out of arms at one point I was curling 45s and would have middle ages dudes pause their workouts just to stare, but I don't feel that arms add too much to the aesthetic as long as they are defined/toned, and I also purposely don't work obliques to keep my waist area looking thin. Abs might be the most important besides shoulders and I can only get them at low body fat, some of my friends are so skinny but defined and of course these dumb ass women think they are ripped asf. I have pictures of transformation for proof if anyone thinks I'm capping. If you are a skinny tallish fuck like I was I can give you tips on bulking and what natty supplements I use, never thought id be where I am now. Used to have my mom telling me I needed to be fed by IV tubes because I was so skinny, to benching 220lb in two years. Def helps with looks in summer If you are average looking at least, and if you are god-tier and gym Maxx as hard as I did then I wouldn't want to be seen next to you lol.

PM me pics and advice

 

[StuffedFrog]

That’s a good aesthetic. That looks really achievable for me tbh. Do think that’s natty?

going for a body like that with long legs and a chico like face while doing fashion like tom Holland and its natty

 

[Deleted member 1560]

K

 

[Deleted member 2756]

good thread op