only non cope treatments for acne scarring

[piec]

rolling: subcision + ablative co2 or er:yag / phenol peel

boxcar: ablative co2 or er:yag + subcision / phenol peel

icepick: tca cross + co2 or er:yag / phenol peel

PIE - pulsed dye laser
if you have leftover PIE and want to do other treatments for athropic scarring do NOT use lasers or deep microneedling it will only make it worse

microneedling + tazarotene is good if you dont want to or have the options above, but dont expect insane results, overall dont even expect insane results from any of those

 

[piec]

Will this work for stretch marks?

yes but results wont be optimal most likely, try biodermogenesi

 

[Deleted member 71543]

rolling: subcision + ablative co2 or er:yag / phenol peel

boxcar: ablative co2 or er:yag + subcision / phenol peel

icepick: tca cross + co2 or er:yag / phenol peel

PIE - pulsed dye laser
if you have leftover PIE and want to do other treatments for athropic scarring do NOT use lasers or deep microneedling it will only make it worse

microneedling + tazarotene is good if you dont want to or have the options above, but dont expect insane results, overall dont even expect insane results from any of those

Cam you do pheno Peel or other strong Peels when you still have pie?

 

[piec]

Cam you do pheno Peel or other strong Peels when you still have pie?

yeah definitely, its only discoloration

 

[Deleted member 71543]

yeah definitely, its only discoloration

Will it helps for that too?

And what about being on low dose acutane while doing the Peel, will that affect wound healing?
Some people say it does other it doesnt.

 

[piec]

Will it helps for that too?

i think it might, personally i have no experience with peels since i dont suffer from icepicks. supposedly they help PIE

And what about being on low dose acutane while doing the Peel, will that affect wound healing?
Some people say it does other it doesnt.

with laser it has slightly positive to 0 effect

the accutane wound healing myth began with a failed extremely high concentration tca procedure, but it has never happened after with every later study showing positive results, you are most likely fine

 

[Deleted member 71543]

i think it might, personally i have no experience with peels since i dont suffer from icepicks. supposedly they help PIE

with laser it has slightly positive to 0 effect

the accutane wound healing myth began with a failed extremely high concentration tca procedure, but it has never happened after with every later study showing positive results, you are most likely fine

Thanks my nigga I love you

 

[Hey dont talk to me]

er yag is scam it wont work much once swelling is gone your scars will be back. It might only work when scar is fresh.

 

[piec]

er yag is scam it wont work much once swelling is gone your scars will be back. It might only work when scar is fresh.

did you do er:yag or co2?

 

[Hey dont talk to me]

did you do er:yag or co2?

er:yag is scam and it can melt your fatpads i wont do it even its free.
co2 only safe for white people i am brown.

 

[piec]

er:yag is scam and it can melt your fatpads i wont do it even its free.

co2 can melt your fat pads too, i dont think its the fault of the laser if such thing occurs, but of the doctor or unfortunate genetics. maybe co2 is more retardproof but idk

 

[Hey dont talk to me]

co2 can melt your fat pads too, i dont think its the fault of the laser if such thing occurs, but of the doctor or unfortunate genetics. maybe co2 is more retardproof but idk

yes every energy device can melt since it works with heat. actually co2 more dangerous for darker skin.

 

[moodless]

best one for shallow but wide boxcrs? and do u think cross is overemphasised for icepick? its defo the best but liner scars and aa few boxcaars respond very well to it. Davin lim seems to have used it for a lot of deep boxcars w the pain method but i think cross is just as good

 

[moodless]

er:yag is scam and it can melt your fatpads i wont do it even its free.

er yag goes less deeper thn co2 aand less therml damage. how can it melt fatpaads comp to co2? sorry my keyboaard is messing

energy based devices can be dangerous but i think most of the faat pad reports come from women who haave thinner skin

 

[piec]

best one for shallow but wide boxcrs?

laser + subcision

and do u think cross is overemphasised for icepick?

no considering its probably one of the few ways u can do something to them

 

[moodless]

laser + subcision

no considering its probably one of the few ways u can do something to them

i meant cross is said to exclusively work for icepicks when lim uses it for a whole lot more except deep rolling i think

why subcision if its shallow? isnt it just collagen loss? what about collagen stimulating filler or should one just get HA and caall it a day?

 

[piec]

why subcision if its shallow?

you could get a filler instead, i just dont consider it to be a permament solution

i meant cross is said to exclusively work for icepicks when lim uses it for a whole lot more except deep rolling i think

if he needs to smooth out the edges of a boxcar that would make sense, but lim is kind of a jew tbh

 

[moodless]

you could get a filler instead, i just dont consider it to be a permament solution

if he needs to smooth out the edges of a boxcar that would make sense, but lim is kind of a jew tbh

yeah i remeber in one vid he said he invented tcaa paaint i thought daamn but i reaalised he just swaapped toothpick for paaintbrush

i think i messed up by using cross on shallow but broaad boxcaar caan i dm the pic, tell me if i need aabltive laser or filler? i dont think i need subcision none of my scaars look tethered i just picked aat thaaat shit like methheada

 

[piec]

yeah i remeber in one vid he said he invented tcaa paaint i thought daamn but i reaalised he just swaapped toothpick for paaintbrush

i think i messed up by using cross on shallow but broaad boxcaar caan i dm the pic, tell me if i need aabltive laser or filler? i dont think i need subcision none of my scaars look tethered i just picked aat thaaat shit like methheada

you can, but i can tell u now chances are subcision is inevitable, unless u want to be doing filler for the rest of ur life

 

[piec]

honestly changed my mind on phenol, its not as effective as i thought for acne scars. its still very effective for microswelling and minor issues like skin texture

 

[therewillbeblud]

honestly changed my mind on phenol, its not as effective as i thought for acne scars. its still very effective for microswelling and minor issues like skin texture

What does she need

 

[piec]

What does she need

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ablative laser and some peels i think will be her best bet, subcision for some of them too

 

[therewillbeblud]

ablative laser and some peels i think will be her best bet, subcision for some of them too

HAve you seen janjua excision results? They are really good

 

[Sid_56]

Do pdl Or ipl work for very red acne scars and would they fade completely, secondly my fuckass pie gets super red when I am outdoors any fix?

rolling: subcision + ablative co2 or er:yag / phenol peel

boxcar: ablative co2 or er:yag + subcision / phenol peel

icepick: tca cross + co2 or er:yag / phenol peel

PIE - pulsed dye laser
if you have leftover PIE and want to do other treatments for athropic scarring do NOT use lasers or deep microneedling it will only make it worse

microneedling + tazarotene is good if you dont want to or have the options above, but dont expect insane results, overall dont even expect insane results from any of those

 

[Deleted member 165633]

Tretinoin .025% for 3 months then .05% for 6 and they will be gone. If there’s anything left then micro needling works very well

 

[piec]

Do pdl Or ipl work for very red acne scars

they are used to treat redness so yes they would work for the redness part, not the underlying scars

and would they fade completely

you will probably need a few sessions if they are very severe

secondly my fuckass pie gets super red when I am outdoors any fix?

if ur outdoors then its probably because of the sun, just use sunscreen