only solution to DYEL problem

[Matthias of Hungary]

there are two approaches.

1)leanmaxxing: properly lean down and have some prominent shoulders, chest, arms etc.
2)heavy bulk: bulk and ascend your frame. no matter how big your belly is if your frame is noticeably big, ppl will understand that you lift.

there are no middle ground, most DYELs are not bulked enough or leaned enough.

 

[Deleted member 17595]

heavy bulk only if you are not interested in getting women

 

[Matthias of Hungary]

heavy bulk only if you are not interested in getting women

bulking is still better than maintenance at most case. more intimidating.

 

[Deleted member 26699]

heavy bulk only if you are not interested in getting women

How to not get women full guide when ?

 

[Deleted member 27472]

heavy bulk only if you are not interested in getting women

Long term if you bulk and sacrifice a year you can put on a lot of muscle and then cut. But short term it’s better to cut straight up

 

[AppealMaxxing]

If you heavy bulk as a natty people will just think you are fat.
And when you eventually cut down you'll realise you build way more fat than muscle.