(OP) 30M. Rate me on 10? Chad or Incel?

@Holymanro Thanks for the reply bruh. How much would you rate me though? Be brutally honest.
 
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@Holymanro Thanks for the reply bruh. How much would you rate me though? Be brutally honest.
5/10 in real life, in the west.

If you are in India, 6+
 
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Because of your south asian look you will be unable to get to a 9. Overall though you will definitely be able to improve your looks quite a bit with surgeries. Like other users have said, implants would be good, as your face is a bit flat. Rhinoplasty would also help, and getting a more v shaped jaw would help, as your jaw now is wide but very square. That morph that @tiger88 did was very good.

You are healthy and you look younger than 30 for sure and skin is in fantastic condition so you are in a good place to start looksmaxing. I would start soon because after 30 most people begin to age very quickly and on top of that surgery gets more dangerous and less effective as you get older

Read up a lot before you get anything done, you dont want to get any surgery before you know for sure that its what you want. You can always ask questions on this forum. There are a lot of shitposters here but also a lot of people who know what they are talking about. Good luck.
 
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iirc someone else posted him here
 
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Chad my ass

Even the thought of you thinking anybody here would rate you Chad is an insult to the community

4/10 Giga curry
 
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1. Rate my looks on 10?
2. Point out my imperfections, facial asymmetries etc and possible plastic surgeries to help me be a chad/slayer
3. My premolars were extracted as a part of orthodontic treatment 10 years back. I have attached pre-extraction pics. Compare them with my current pics and asses the facial damage.
3. Morph my image to an ideal one post-surgery. (I'll be really thankful for this one).
4. Money no bar-Point out the best surgeon and surgeries for my case. The goal is to be at least a 9 (if at all that's possible)
5. I'm planning to get dermal fillers this week. Point out the areas where I should focus the most.

Current facial images


Current facial video for better understanding


Pre teeth extraction cephalometric x-ray and dental/facial pics- age:18.5


CBCT xrays-2018


Dr Larry Wolford jaw surgery consultation analysis in 2016


Note: Be as constructively critical as you want. I am thick-skinned and won't get offended:)

Thank you for taking out time and reading this. Your opinions and feedback will be highly appreciated.


You finally found out about this forum, OP?

The guys from jawsurgeryforum refused to rate you, jfl

 
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I give you 3 advice that you should do first:
- Go to taban and get whatever he offers you, to ascend your eyes.
- Most important: Get a Lip lift!!!
- Buy green contacts

This should be enough for the moment. Dont fantasize about to many surgeries. Get these 3 points done quick.
Jaw surgery is useless for you anyway. You will ascend by lowering bf%, filler for sharpness and angles and getting a more modern fuckboy haircut (shaved sides). And get your philtrum fixed!!
 
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Probably I'm not adding anything useful to the argument here but I can't help think what is your main objective of ascending to a 9. What is it that you hope to accomplish?
 
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1. Rate my looks on 10?
2. Point out my imperfections, facial asymmetries etc and possible plastic surgeries to help me be a chad/slayer
3. My premolars were extracted as a part of orthodontic treatment 10 years back. I have attached pre-extraction pics. Compare them with my current pics and asses the facial damage.
3. Morph my image to an ideal one post-surgery. (I'll be really thankful for this one).
4. Money no bar-Point out the best surgeon and surgeries for my case. The goal is to be at least a 9 (if at all that's possible)
5. I'm planning to get dermal fillers this week. Point out the areas where I should focus the most.

Current facial images


Current facial video for better understanding


Pre teeth extraction cephalometric x-ray and dental/facial pics- age:18.5


CBCT xrays-2018


Dr Larry Wolford jaw surgery consultation analysis in 2016


Note: Be as constructively critical as you want. I am thick-skinned and won't get offended:)

Thank you for taking out time and reading this. Your opinions and feedback will be highly appreciated.

JFL THIS IS THE GUY ON REDDIT WHO THINKS HE CAN BE A MODEL HA HA

HOW TF DID YOU FIND THIS SITE LOL?
 
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This is the nigga from reddit jfl
 
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Looks good for a curry / 10
 
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You sound like a typical normie. It’s be chad or die. This is a looksmaxxing incel forum not reddit.

U cant be chad if u were never meant to be. Period. So dont be delusional.. no amout of surgery can ascend u to 6+
 
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Rate my looks on 10?
 
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10 out of 10 autism. outstanding!
 
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Dangerous advice here. Ethnicity isn't your main problem. It can't be changed. Bones make phenotypes, not the darkness of your skin.
What are the problematic areas and where can improvements be made in your opinion? @Bewusst
 
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assymetry and massive scleral show are ur main failos
 
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If you was white you'd be worth my rating. Being a shitskin is a death sentence by default
 
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try lip balm with spm and anything to make ur lips reddish/pink it is a halo as it creates contrast with brown skin
spf*
 
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Ugh that's really hard to be honest.

You look fine for being indian, the thing is even looking fine as an indian is still bad.
Regarding the eyes, sadly other than contacts you really can't do anything, yes there are surgeries and lasers which BRIGHTEN the eyes not actually changing the colour, so a person with hazel/dark green eyes can go lighter and obtain a new color but since your eyes are so dark it's most probably to don't get a good result without tens of laser sessions which costs tens of thousands and might not be worth it since your eyes will get more and more sensitive to the light, don't listen people who say Stroma can do it, no one knows when it will be available and their proves are shady and mostly on people who already had a lighter shade.

One option is also in Barcelona called Eyecos, I talked with the doctor there and mostly confirmed that for really dark eyes the results aren't as good and it fades with time.

So just invest in a good pair of contacts or just stick with your eyes.

Regarding surgeries, just do a rhinoplasty to slim your nose, and also lips reduction because they are kinda too big and look ethnic, also look into whitening your skin and lips.

Your jaw looks bulky and to be honest while it's a good jaw it just gives you a "dumb" appearance, try to look into Jaw-reduction getting a more V-shaped jaw.

Also your haircut, long hair looks great but usually are white MMs who get it right, on you it looks slightly ethnic so probably the best choice would be an undercut/fade with sides close to 0, basic and shitty but yeah it's what it works for Indians best imo.

Get fillers in your upper eyelid and also undereyes to improve your eye area, also start practicing squinting all the time it will start to feel natural, use Retin A undereye in case you worry about wrinkles tho I doubt you will get them.

You look great for 30 so you have a good start point it's just that you are starting kinda late so better focus on doing everything as soon as possible.

Thanks for the great advice. Do you think botox jaw reduction can give me the desired jaw reduction or should I go under the knife for v shaped jaw surgery like the one practised in south Korea?
Because of your south asian look you will be unable to get to a 9. Overall though you will definitely be able to improve your looks quite a bit with surgeries. Like other users have said, implants would be good, as your face is a bit flat. Rhinoplasty would also help, and getting a more v shaped jaw would help, as your jaw now is wide but very square. That morph that @tiger88 did was very good.

You are healthy and you look younger than 30 for sure and skin is in fantastic condition so you are in a good place to start looksmaxing. I would start soon because after 30 most people begin to age very quickly and on top of that surgery gets more dangerous and less effective as you get older

Read up a lot before you get anything done, you dont want to get any surgery before you know for sure that its what you want. You can always ask questions on this forum. There are a lot of shitposters here but also a lot of people who know what they are talking about. Good luck.
Thanks for your honest feedback.Its always said that squarish jaws are masculine and looks good on males whereas v shaped jaws are feminine. Why is it that you believe that v shaped jaw will look better?
Chad my ass

Even the thought of you thinking anybody here would rate you Chad is an insult to the community

4/10 Giga curry
Wait for my transformation in 6 months and copy paste this. You are gonna have an epic tongue in cheek moment.
 
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> "Chad or incel?"
> curry
PSL3 subhuman atm
 
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You finally found out about this forum, OP?

The guys from jawsurgeryforum refused to rate you, jfl

Where there is a will, there is a way bruh!:)
I give you 3 advice that you should do first:
- Go to taban and get whatever he offers you, to ascend your eyes.
- Most important: Get a Lip lift!!!
- Buy green contacts

This should be enough for the moment. Dont fantasize about to many surgeries. Get these 3 points done quick.
Jaw surgery is useless for you anyway. You will ascend by lowering bf%, filler for sharpness and angles and getting a more modern fuckboy haircut (shaved sides). And get your philtrum fixed!!
@Deusmaximus Thanks for investing your time for the honest feedback. I have an online appt with taban this week. What do you mean by lip lift? Can you please post a morphed or a sample image for my understanding. Also, philtrum fixed? What should exactly be done? Shortening of length? If yes then by how much mm?
 
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Wait for my transformation in 6 months and copy paste this. You are gonna have an epic tongue in cheek moment.
sorry dude but just being curry alone automatically takes literally 6 points away
 
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You look like a rapist but not in a bad way
 
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curry
it's over
Show your surgeon this gif and tell him that if he'll not give you these results you'll kill yourself. This should motivate him.
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Edit: I quoted the wrong guy
@tiger88
 
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Seems there are really high standards set in this forum. Even interesting ! I'm stunned. How much would you rate me then bro?
 
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Seems there are really high standards set in this forum. Even interesting ! I'm stunned. How much would you rate me then bro?
women will see you as around a 4.5/10
a 9 which youre trying to achieve would look like this:
Chico2
 
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Show your surgeon this gif and tell him that if he'll not give you these results you'll kill yourself. This should motivate him.
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Edit: I quoted the wrong guy
@tiger88
@Slayerino Man ! Cant thank you enough for the morph. Now, this is why I joined this forum. Some mindboggling constructive feedback. I owe you bro. I was so desperately looking for it. Now I am getting a clearer picture where I lack. In one words- its projection of everything in sagittal plane . Thank you so very much. Would you be kind enough to also let me know the surgeries required to get to the final morph since you are more experienced and knowledgeable than me. I can point few- nose job , lip volume , fillers. Can you add some?
 
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google him and compare him to any of the psl gods or supermodels
unironically it never began for curries
I did, would rate him 5,5 for sure. Ofc his not Pitt tier
 
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@Slayerino Man ! Cant thank you enough for the morph. Now, this is why I joined this forum. Some mindboggling constructive feedback. I owe you bro. I was so desperately looking for it. Now I am getting a clearer picture where I lack. In one words- its projection of everything in sagittal plane . Thank you so very much. Would you be kind enough to also let me know the surgeries required to get to the final morph since you are more experienced and knowledgeable than me. I can point few- nose job , lip volume , fillers. Can you add some?
bimax+genio
rhinoplasty
fat grafts on upper/lower eyelids

The biggest difference(after the eyes became more hooded) is given from the decreasing of the vertical length of the eye. I have no idea if there's such surgery and what's its name.


Wtf bro how little changes can matter so much. What did u actually change. Lower eyelid, wider mouth, no dark circles
It's all about the ocular support (in my opinion more important than mid). The horizontal length of the eye. I straighten the nose and created the illusion of a more forward chin and midface.
 
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The goal is to be at least a 9 (if at all that's possible)
You need to get back on the planet Earth really fast. You cant go from PSL3-4 curry to PSL7 (a 9/10 irl). 9s and 10s and even 8s are born, not made.
 
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bimax+genio
rhinoplasty
fat grafts on upper/lower eyelids

The biggest difference(after the eyes became more hooded) is given from the decreasing of the vertical length of the eye. I have no idea if there's such surgery and what's its name.



It's all about the ocular support (in my opinion more important than mid). The horizontal length of the eye. I straighten the nose and created the illusion of a more forward chin and midface.

Damn bro. Remind me to hit you up in a month or two for an eye area morph.
 
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Here’s your morph playboi

Spoiler alert: you can only achieve 50% of that if all surgeries where successful
 

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Here’s your morph playboi

Spoiler alert: you can only achieve 50% of that if all surgeries where successful
Your efforts trying to be funny makes you a true incel. Cmon bro, add something constructive which could help me as well as someone reading this thread.
You need to get back on the planet Earth really fast. You cant go from PSL3-4 curry to PSL7 (a 9/10 irl). 9s and 10s and even 8s are born, not made.
Bro, what is the max I can reach with all the surgeries mentioned in the thread in your opinion
 
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Your efforts trying to be funny makes you a true incel. Cmon bro, add something constructive which could help me as well as someone reading this thread.
Fuks wrong with u am serious u can only achieve 50% of the morph I made + anything more than this is unrealistic

You have jaw assymetry from sleeping on one side. Common among ppl but still a flaw.

You have eye assymetry in which an entire eye socket is like 3-4 mm above th other. Unfixable

Your nose is too thick so doubt rhino can make it as slim as the morph without collapsing it

Your chin is round & u can only make it rectangular like that with filler or top tier implants.

If u get
Upper eyelid surgery
Lower eyelid surgery
Rhino
Bimax
Implants
& lose body fat
You’ll be almost at 50% of the morph I made for u

If u think those changes are too minor, newsflash Ramesh surgery has limitations welcome to the real would mfer
 
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Bro, what is the max I can reach with all the surgeries mentioned in the thread in your opinion
I don't know nobody can predict that. Just looksmax and dont think about it. Are you tall at least?
 
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I am asking myself what is your actual goal?

Obviously your are never going to be 9/10.

And you will never be really desired by western women simply because of your pheno(which not only consits of skin colour)

Why spend 50k on surgery to gain at max 0.5 psl?
If you are in India, the only thing you should be considering is whitemaxxing since you are too dark to be above average, anything else isnt really gonna help you tbh and if you live in the west, well ....
 
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