Opinions on First Cycle. 21 yr Old. Comprehensive Cycle Review

[mrnasty]

Been reading through all the threads and pulling info to build out, what I think, is a pretty solid cycle. I hear people constantly say I'll want to just cruise after this so I'm not taking that off the table. But I left the PCT protocol in there just for sake if discussion. The norwood reaper is trying come for my shit. Thankfully I've held my hairline pretty good by starting young with RU + Oral minox. I imagine though when the exogenous hormones start, I'll have to start using DUT to not lose any ground. Thats also why I haven't added any DHT or 19Nors stuff. Would probably rape my hair and I'm thinking to keep the first go around with this fairly simple.

I'm pretty lean rn, 12%-15% BF so this would be a bulking cycle. I hadn't considered it before, but the synergy of GH and Test seemed promising enough to add. + It could help maintain relative leanness combined with the lose dose reta while trying to pack on size.

Any suggestions for dosing or changing of the plan?

Things I had slight questions on.
1. I know the test produced from the HCG use will aromatize more than the exogenous test. I heard maybe dosing the HCG every day at a smaller dose vs 3 times a week could help with the aromatization?
2. Do you think it's worth it for peace of mind's sake to get raloxifene also for potential gyno flair? Or would the aromasin cover that?

Core Hormones
21 yr old
18-20 Wk Cycle - Possibly into Cruise

Testosterone Enanthate - 500 mg per wk

• Dosed 72mg ED subq / im (still deciding whether big difference between subq and IM)
  

HGH - 2IU ED (for QOL, hair/skin & lipolysis during slow bulk)

Aromatase Inhibitor (Standby)
Exemestane (Aromasin) -

Level	Dose	Frequency	Weekly Total
1	6.25mg	e3.5d	12.5mg/week
2	6.25mg	eod	~21.9mg/week
3	12.5mg	e3.5d	25mg/week
4	12.5mg	eod	~43.75mg/week
5	12.5mg	ed	87.5mg/week

Peptides / Ancillaries
HCG - 250mcg 3x per week (Mon,Wed,Fri) (Ball function, make pct easier assuming I pct)

Retatrutide - 2mg per wk (metabolism, lipids, nutrient partitioning, GIP)

Eplerenone - 25mg ED (counter HGH & Test Bloat)

GHK-CU - 2.5mg ED (hair, skin etc)

Dutasteride - 1-2mg ED (hairloss)

RU-58841 - 5% solution ED (residual DHT in scalp)

Tadalafil (Cialis) - 10/20mg ED

Minoxidil - Oral 2.5mg ED

PCT Plan (If/When Needed)

Week	Enclomiphene	Nolvadex
1-2	25mg/day	40mg/day
3-4	12.5mg/day	20mg/day
5-6	6.25mg/day	10mg/day

Support

Fish Oil - 4g ED (lipid management, reduces triglycerides)

Berberine - 500mg ED (with heavy carb meals) (insulin sensitivity)

Citrus Bergamot - 500-1000mg ED (LDL reduction, HDL support)

TUDCA - 500mg ED (hepatoprotective)

NAC - 600mg ED (glutathione precursor, liver and kidney support)

 

[DNR_]

dnr
edit: did this nigga just say he is using ru58841 without dutasteride?
its not a replacement for dht blockers its only an extra helper

 

[Vrowding]

dnr

 

[mrnasty]

dnr
edit: did this nigga just say he is using ru58841 without dutasteride?
its not a replacement for dht blockers its only an extra helper

yeah yeah ik but if its holding my hairline in place rn whats the point in using something stronger.

 

[amit526]

Been reading through all the threads and pulling info to build out, what I think, is a pretty solid cycle. I hear people constantly say I'll want to just cruise after this so I'm not taking that off the table. But I left the PCT protocol in there just for sake if discussion. The norwood reaper is trying come for my shit. Thankfully I've held my hairline pretty good by starting young with RU + Oral minox. I imagine though when the exogenous hormones start, I'll have to start using DUT to not lose any ground. Thats also why I haven't added any DHT or 19Nors stuff. Would probably rape my hair and I'm thinking to keep the first go around with this fairly simple.

I'm pretty lean rn, 12%-15% BF so this would be a bulking cycle. I hadn't considered it before, but the synergy of GH and Test seemed promising enough to add. + It could help maintain relative leanness combined with the lose dose reta while trying to pack on size.

Any suggestions for dosing or changing of the plan?

Things I had slight questions on.
1. I know the test produced from the HCG use will aromatize more than the exogenous test. I heard maybe dosing the HCG every day at a smaller dose vs 3 times a week could help with the aromatization?
2. Do you think it's worth it for peace of mind's sake to get raloxifene also for potential gyno flair? Or would the aromasin cover that?

Core Hormones
21 yr old
18-20 Wk Cycle - Possibly into Cruise

Testosterone Enanthate - 500 mg per wk

• Dosed 72mg ED subq / im (still deciding whether big difference between subq and IM)

HGH - 2IU ED (for QOL, hair/skin & lipolysis during slow bulk)

Aromatase Inhibitor (Standby)
Exemestane (Aromasin) -

Level	Dose	Frequency	Weekly Total
1	6.25mg	e3.5d	12.5mg/week
2	6.25mg	eod	~21.9mg/week
3	12.5mg	e3.5d	25mg/week
4	12.5mg	eod	~43.75mg/week
5	12.5mg	ed	87.5mg/week

Peptides / Ancillaries
HCG - 250mcg 3x per week (Mon,Wed,Fri) (Ball function, make pct easier assuming I pct)

Retatrutide - 2mg per wk (metabolism, lipids, nutrient partitioning, GIP)

Eplerenone - 25mg ED (counter HGH & Test Bloat)

GHK-CU - 2.5mg ED (hair, skin etc)

Dutasteride - 1-2mg ED (hairloss)

RU-58841 - 5% solution ED (residual DHT in scalp)

Tadalafil (Cialis) - 10/20mg ED

Minoxidil - Oral 2.5mg ED

PCT Plan (If/When Needed)

Week	Enclomiphene	Nolvadex
1-2	25mg/day	40mg/day
3-4	12.5mg/day	20mg/day
5-6	6.25mg/day	10mg/day

Support

Fish Oil - 4g ED (lipid management, reduces triglycerides)

Berberine - 500mg ED (with heavy carb meals) (insulin sensitivity)

Citrus Bergamot - 500-1000mg ED (LDL reduction, HDL support)

TUDCA - 500mg ED (hepatoprotective)

NAC - 600mg ED (glutathione precursor, liver and kidney support)

hope you’re using leterzole

 

[DNR_]

yeah yeah ik but if its holding my hairline in place rn whats the point in using something stronger.

its called redundancy, just because its working does NOT mean it will continue to work in the future.

 

[mrnasty]

its called redundancy, just because its working does NOT mean it will continue to work in the future.

Yeah no I agree. I figured I would move to dut when I saw it wasn’t working effectively anymore

 

[mrnasty]

bump