Oral Only stack

[Ariiio]

First off, I know pure test would be better than the stack that I will explain soon, however I cant store anything injectable without parents finding it so I have to keep it oral based.


I thought this might be an okay stack for primarily muscle growth, through just lifting up test:

- Enclomiphene: to lift test levels without shutting natural production down
- Proviron: Keep shbg low so theres more free test available to bind to ar receptors
- Ai: keep elevated free test from converting to estrogen


My main concern is, that enclomiphene will close my growth plates. I am mainly worried about the clavicles since they're one of the last bones to fuse. I still hope to get some clavicle growth. My bidelt currently is like 21in so its fine and I dont have a lot of muscle mass, however I was cursed with wide hips so more muscle mass + clavicle length would ascend me.

I've already ran 12,5mg ed of enclo already for around 50 days so maybe I've already fucked my growth plates and it wouldn't even matter.

Thoughts on the stack and growth plate issue?

 

[rira1]

u can hide pill bottles but cant hide some little testosterone vials? sure bud

 

[rrm_ss2]

First off, I know pure test would be better than the stack that I will explain soon, however I cant store anything injectable without parents finding it so I have to keep it oral based.


I thought this might be an okay stack for primarily muscle growth, through just lifting up test:

- Enclomiphene: to lift test levels without shutting natural production down
- Proviron: Keep shbg low so theres more free test available to bind to ar receptors
- Ai: keep elevated free test from converting to estrogen


My main concern is, that enclomiphene will close my growth plates. I am mainly worried about the clavicles since they're one of the last bones to fuse. I still hope to get some clavicle growth. My bidelt currently is like 21in so its fine and I dont have a lot of muscle mass, however I was cursed with wide hips so more muscle mass + clavicle length would ascend me.

I've already ran 12,5mg ed of enclo already for 50 days so maybe I've already fucked my growth plates and it wouldn't even matter.

Thoughts on the stack and growth plate issue?

just buy a vitamin d cover or somthing and use it

 

[Ariiio]

u can hide pill bottles but cant hide some little testosterone vials? sure bud

I mean they have to be stored in the fridge right? I cant store there. Maybe I'm retarded and its not supposed to be stored in the fridge

 

[2marc1]

First off, I know pure test would be better than the stack that I will explain soon, however I cant store anything injectable without parents finding it so I have to keep it oral based.


I thought this might be an okay stack for primarily muscle growth, through just lifting up test:

- Enclomiphene: to lift test levels without shutting natural production down
- Proviron: Keep shbg low so theres more free test available to bind to ar receptors
- Ai: keep elevated free test from converting to estrogen


My main concern is, that enclomiphene will close my growth plates. I am mainly worried about the clavicles since they're one of the last bones to fuse. I still hope to get some clavicle growth. My bidelt currently is like 21in so its fine and I dont have a lot of muscle mass, however I was cursed with wide hips so more muscle mass + clavicle length would ascend me.

I've already ran 12,5mg ed of enclo already for around 50 days so maybe I've already fucked my growth plates and it wouldn't even matter.

Thoughts on the stack and growth plate issue?

growth plate wise seems fine, you dont need a fridge to store test, mostly fridge is used for storing peptides and hgh yk
uhhhhh dm me if you want more indepth help

 

[rira1]

I mean they have to be stored in the fridge right? I cant store there. Maybe I'm retarded and its not supposed to be stored in the fridge

only hgh needs to be stored in the fridge , testosterone doesnt have to be and u can buy a mini fridge for hgh and put it under ur bed if u have somewhere to plug it. or even better put some coke cans and hide it behind them so its not suspicious at all

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

I mean they have to be stored in the fridge right? I cant store there. Maybe I'm retarded and its not supposed to be stored in the fridge

listen to 2marc1, hes correct, test can be stored in the room, ai can kinda mitigate the effects of growth plate closure but there isnt enough research on that. How old

 

[Ariiio]

listen to 2marc1, hes correct, test can be stored in the room, ai can kinda mitigate the effects of growth plate closure but there isnt enough research on that. How old

18

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

18

take var, nothing to lose

 

[Ariiio]

take var, nothing to lose

so test + var and then pct at the end?

 

[Whirr22222]

Retard final boss

 

[ccc19287]

First off, I know pure test would be better than the stack that I will explain soon, however I cant store anything injectable without parents finding it so I have to keep it oral based.


I thought this might be an okay stack for primarily muscle growth, through just lifting up test:

- Enclomiphene: to lift test levels without shutting natural production down
- Proviron: Keep shbg low so theres more free test available to bind to ar receptors
- Ai: keep elevated free test from converting to estrogen


My main concern is, that enclomiphene will close my growth plates. I am mainly worried about the clavicles since they're one of the last bones to fuse. I still hope to get some clavicle growth. My bidelt currently is like 21in so its fine and I dont have a lot of muscle mass, however I was cursed with wide hips so more muscle mass + clavicle length would ascend me.

I've already ran 12,5mg ed of enclo already for around 50 days so maybe I've already fucked my growth plates and it wouldn't even matter.

Thoughts on the stack and growth plate issue?

Did you end up going with this stack and what are some probable side effects with how much ur dosing,

i am 20 rn with a bit wider bidelt and wondering if i should also take ai for a couple of years or if the chances of clavicles still growing is so slim that roi is not worth.

lmk ur thoughts

 

[Ariiio]

Did you end up going with this stack and what are some probable side effects with how much ur dosing,

i am 20 rn with a bit wider bidelt and wondering if i should also take ai for a couple of years or if the chances of clavicles still growing is so slim that roi is not worth.

lmk ur thoughts

I did nor run this yet and I dont intend to anymore. I think the results this stack would give are so diminishing, might as well inject the real thing.

I plan to do a test only cycle, of course I'll add an ai and probably hcg and then I'll pct to recover as best as possible.

As for your clavicle growth, I think an ai could extend the time you have left before the growth plates fuse. Thus if you were to up your hgh and perhaps test, you would get more growth.

 

[ccc19287]

I did nor run this yet and I dont intend to anymore. I think the results this stack would give are so diminishing, might as well inject the real thing.

I plan to do a test only cycle, of course I'll add an ai and probably hcg and then I'll pct to recover as best as possible.

As for your clavicle growth, I think an ai could extend the time you have left before the growth plates fuse. Thus if you were to up your hgh and perhaps test, you would get more growth.

how much test will you do and how are you going to store hgh now

 

[ccc19287]

I did nor run this yet and I dont intend to anymore. I think the results this stack would give are so diminishing, might as well inject the real thing.

I plan to do a test only cycle, of course I'll add an ai and probably hcg and then I'll pct to recover as best as possible.

As for your clavicle growth, I think an ai could extend the time you have left before the growth plates fuse. Thus if you were to up your hgh and perhaps test, you would get more growth.

are u gonna go full inject now?

 

[Ariiio]

how much test will you do and how are you going to store hgh now

Hgh was an advice for you. I dont plan to inject hgh.

I plan to run 250mg or 350mg test e weekly. In addition I'll use a standard dose of hcg, which I'll hide somehow in the fridge.

are u gonna go full inject now?

it will yield better results, so yes.