Orthognathic surgery to improve gonial angle?

[Deleted member 1849]

I’m confused in this topic. It seems that you need a CCW rotation to decrease gonial angle.

But I also read CCW increases facial height which we don’t want.

So what’s the option to decrease gonial angle with orthognathic surgery?

 

[Vergil.is]

I’m confused in this topic. It seems that you need a CCW rotation to decrease gonial angle.

But I also read CCW increases facial height which we don’t want.

So what’s the option to decrease gonial angle with orthognathic surgery?

blowing off jimsonbobson and gaining 1 wish should help

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

chin wing osteotomy

 

[Deleted member 4797]

its fine to increase the facial height because all of it is increasing on the lower third only (add dimorphism to men).

 

[Deleted member 8461]

chin wing osteotomy
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can you get chin wing after genio

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

can you get chin wing after genio

idk what order these things are done ask @Sergio-OMS

 

[MedMaxxing]

CCW increasing facial height as previously stated is only height on the lower third, which is a good thing.

 

[Deleted member 1849]

chin wing osteotomy
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It seems the drawings maxilla moved too. Realistcally how much would a chin wing improve a 140% gonial angle with a relativaly short ramus?

 

[Deleted member 1849]

CCW increasing facial height as previously stated is only height on the lower third, which is a good thing.

By how much would it increase? Let's say I get 7 degrees of CCW.

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

It seems the drawings maxilla moved too. Realistcally how much would a chin wing improve a 140% gonial angle with a relativaly short ramus?

ask @Sergio-OMS

 

[MedMaxxing]

By how much would it increase? Let's say I get 7 degrees of CCW.

Entirely dependent on your starting angle.

 

[SPFromNY914]

I’m confused in this topic. It seems that you need a CCW rotation to decrease gonial angle.

But I also read CCW increases facial height which we don’t want.

So what’s the option to decrease gonial angle with orthognathic surgery?

CCW surgery plus chin wing is best bet.

 

[SPFromNY914]

I’m confused in this topic. It seems that you need a CCW rotation to decrease gonial angle.

But I also read CCW increases facial height which we don’t want.

So what’s the option to decrease gonial angle with orthognathic surgery?

BTW you're increasing lower third height with what you read not midface so it doesn't matter. Tall lower third with good ramus is dimorphic, only failo is super long midface that's narrow.

 

[Deleted member 1849]

Entirely dependent on your starting angle.

140 degree gonial angle. flat side profile tbh.