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It heals the gut & skin, reduces inflammation & fatigue, and massively boosts sexual health.
That's just scratching the surface.

The benefits of ZINC are nearly endless:

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Zinc rapidly repairs the gut.
The gut can be broken down by bacterial toxins (LPS) or high doses of antibiotics, but zinc gluconate:

• Alleviates digestive symptoms
• Prevents "leaky gut"
• Decreases pathogenic bacteria

possibly the #1 nutrient for digestion.
Image



Zinc boosts metabolism.

Zinc is necessary for thyroid hormone:

• Production
• Conversion
• Signaling

Periods of zinc deficiency (MP2 here) drastically lower metabolism.
Image



Zinc carnosine prevents "leaky gut."

37.5 mg, 2x daily, completely halted the permeability in the intestine.

This permeability drives:

• Various gut symptoms
• Food intolerance
• Systemic inflammation
Image



Zinc Carnosine powerfully reduces gut inflammation.

People with ulcerative colitis (inflammatory bowel disease) taking it:

‣ Dramatically reduced disease progression
‣ Reduced digestive symptoms by nearly 40%

Antibacterial, anti-inflammatory, repairs gut lining.
Image



Zinc is the ultimate nutrient for SKIN.

Zinc has shown promise for:

⬩Warts
⬩Acne
⬩Rosacea
⬩Vitiligo
⬩Psoriasis
⬩Eczema
⬩Sunburn
⬩Wrinkles
⬩Dandruff

It supports nearly every process in regenerating new skin.
Image



Zinc is a critical factor in hair loss.

Zinc:

• Levels very low in alopecia
• A vital cofactor for growth and differentiation of keratinocytes (hair producing cells)
• Oral / topical supplementation can have benefit for growth
Image



Zinc reverses fatigue.

Zinc at just 30 mg per day reduced fatigue by ~20% within 3 months.

Zinc:

‣ Enhances mitochondrial energy production
‣ Has anti-inflammatory function
‣ Required in hormonal signaling + production

and levels declines in aging.
Image



Zinc low, copper high in chronic fatigue / pain.

Excess copper can:

• Increase estrogen
• Drive inflammation
• Cause oxidative stress

contributing to fibromyalgia - zinc opposes these functions.
Image



Zinc is an anti-aging nutrient.

The Copper / Zinc ratio is elevated in:

‣ Age‣ Cancer
‣ Inflammation
‣ Insulin resistance
‣ Autism

Zinc levels decline as we age, less zinc relative to copper predicts death.
Image



Zinc reduces depression by half.

Just 25 mg of zinc daily was shown to have this effect.

Zinc:

⬩Lowers glutamate
⬩Reduce intracellular calcium
⬩Antagonizes the NMDA system
⬩Increases BDNF

In the brain, all vital for neurological function.
Image



Zinc dramatically lowers cortisol.

A 50 mg zinc dose suppressed the stress hormone by around 70% here.

While the HPA axis, which produces cortisol, depletes zinc, adding it back in markedly lowers this stress system.
Image



Zinc levels are low in anxiety.

Stress, the principle driver of anxiety, is one factor that depletes zinc status.

Supplementation has shown benefits as well.
Image



Zinc for a good night's sleep.

Consuming 40g oysters (B):

‣ Increased sleep efficiency
‣ Decreased time to fall asleep

Compared to eating low zinc scallops.

Zinc's potent anti-stress effects on display once again.
Image



Zinc is a Godsend for male sexual health.

Low T men given zinc for under 2 months:

‣ More than DOUBLED sperm count‣ Increased testosterone by over 50%
‣ Increased DHT by over 30%

9/22 men got their wives pregnant, when none could for 5 years prior.
Image



Zinc lowers estrogen.

Excess estrogen is a serious issue, even for women.

Production of estrogen from androgens increases in:

‣ Aging
‣ Inflammation
‣ Fat accumulation

Zinc deficiency compounds this, further increasing the conversion of androgens to estrogens.
Image



Zinc supercharges libido, sexual performance.

Zinc:

‣ Raises testosterone / Free T / DHT
‣ Enhances libido (in men & women)
‣ Improves erectile function
‣ Enhances sperm quality, abundance
‣ Involved in ALL steroid hormone signaling

no mineral more important for this.
Image



Zinc shortens common cold duration by 30-40%.

Zinc lozenges have been repeatedly shown to be effective for dealing with this, by:

✪ Reducing inflammation
✪ Stopping viral replication
✪ Having direct antimicrobial effects
Image



Zinc + Vitamin C powerfully reduce heavy metals.

‣ Both prevent absorption of lead, cadmium, etc
‣ Zinc directly promotes their excretion by producing metallothionein
‣ Both critical for antioxidant protection against them

Some of our best protection.
Image



Zinc deficiency is a HUGE problem.

Around 17% of people globally are deficient.

Plus, our bodies lose it during:

• Stress
• Aging
• Inflammation
• Higher fiber intakes
• Exercise

yet we are SO dependent on it for nearly every function.
Image



The best food sources of zinc BY FAR are oysters and red meat.

You need more of these foods than you think just to meet the RDA (~10 mg).

A huge problem is that phytates in grains impede our absorption of it, so even with sufficient quantities, it can be tough to get enough.
Image


Which of course brings up the topic of supplementation.

Zinc:

• Gluconate
• Acetate
• Sulfate
• Citrate

can all work. We typically use gluconate.

Zinc Carnosine is the most well studied for zinc's benefits on the gut, but can still increase zinc systemically.

Other forms don't seem to be as good.

I think going up to 30-50 mg of elemental zinc daily is pretty reasonable.

Many say you NEED to supplement copper alongside zinc, but unless you're going to high doses I don't think that's true. We typically get plenty of copper in the diet, and the zinc / copper ratio declines with aging, disease, stress etc.

Copper & iron are much more reactive and potentially harmful than zinc, and:

- Estrogen increases iron & copper absorption
- Excess copper can increase estrogen
- Zinc prevents excess estrogenicity
- Zinc protects against intracellular iron / copper toxicity
- Zinc inhibits absorption of both
- Copper + iron are in lots of foods, zinc is not​
 
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It heals the gut & skin, reduces inflammation & fatigue, and massively boosts sexual health.
That's just scratching the surface.

The benefits of ZINC are nearly endless:

Image



Zinc rapidly repairs the gut.
The gut can be broken down by bacterial toxins (LPS) or high doses of antibiotics, but zinc gluconate:

• Alleviates digestive symptoms
• Prevents "leaky gut"
• Decreases pathogenic bacteria

possibly the #1 nutrient for digestion.
Image



Zinc boosts metabolism.

Zinc is necessary for thyroid hormone:

• Production
• Conversion
• Signaling

Periods of zinc deficiency (MP2 here) drastically lower metabolism.
Image



Zinc carnosine prevents "leaky gut."

37.5 mg, 2x daily, completely halted the permeability in the intestine.

This permeability drives:

• Various gut symptoms
• Food intolerance
• Systemic inflammation
Image



Zinc Carnosine powerfully reduces gut inflammation.

People with ulcerative colitis (inflammatory bowel disease) taking it:

‣ Dramatically reduced disease progression
‣ Reduced digestive symptoms by nearly 40%

Antibacterial, anti-inflammatory, repairs gut lining.
Image



Zinc is the ultimate nutrient for SKIN.

Zinc has shown promise for:

⬩Warts
⬩Acne
⬩Rosacea
⬩Vitiligo
⬩Psoriasis
⬩Eczema
⬩Sunburn
⬩Wrinkles
⬩Dandruff

It supports nearly every process in regenerating new skin.
Image



Zinc is a critical factor in hair loss.

Zinc:

• Levels very low in alopecia
• A vital cofactor for growth and differentiation of keratinocytes (hair producing cells)
• Oral / topical supplementation can have benefit for growth
Image



Zinc reverses fatigue.

Zinc at just 30 mg per day reduced fatigue by ~20% within 3 months.

Zinc:

‣ Enhances mitochondrial energy production
‣ Has anti-inflammatory function
‣ Required in hormonal signaling + production

and levels declines in aging.
Image



Zinc low, copper high in chronic fatigue / pain.

Excess copper can:

• Increase estrogen
• Drive inflammation
• Cause oxidative stress

contributing to fibromyalgia - zinc opposes these functions.
Image



Zinc is an anti-aging nutrient.

The Copper / Zinc ratio is elevated in:

‣ Age‣ Cancer
‣ Inflammation
‣ Insulin resistance
‣ Autism

Zinc levels decline as we age, less zinc relative to copper predicts death.
Image



Zinc reduces depression by half.

Just 25 mg of zinc daily was shown to have this effect.

Zinc:

⬩Lowers glutamate
⬩Reduce intracellular calcium
⬩Antagonizes the NMDA system
⬩Increases BDNF

In the brain, all vital for neurological function.
Image



Zinc dramatically lowers cortisol.

A 50 mg zinc dose suppressed the stress hormone by around 70% here.

While the HPA axis, which produces cortisol, depletes zinc, adding it back in markedly lowers this stress system.
Image



Zinc levels are low in anxiety.

Stress, the principle driver of anxiety, is one factor that depletes zinc status.

Supplementation has shown benefits as well.
Image



Zinc for a good night's sleep.

Consuming 40g oysters (B):

‣ Increased sleep efficiency
‣ Decreased time to fall asleep

Compared to eating low zinc scallops.

Zinc's potent anti-stress effects on display once again.
Image



Zinc is a Godsend for male sexual health.

Low T men given zinc for under 2 months:

‣ More than DOUBLED sperm count‣ Increased testosterone by over 50%
‣ Increased DHT by over 30%

9/22 men got their wives pregnant, when none could for 5 years prior.
Image



Zinc lowers estrogen.

Excess estrogen is a serious issue, even for women.

Production of estrogen from androgens increases in:

‣ Aging
‣ Inflammation
‣ Fat accumulation

Zinc deficiency compounds this, further increasing the conversion of androgens to estrogens.
Image



Zinc supercharges libido, sexual performance.

Zinc:

‣ Raises testosterone / Free T / DHT
‣ Enhances libido (in men & women)
‣ Improves erectile function
‣ Enhances sperm quality, abundance
‣ Involved in ALL steroid hormone signaling

no mineral more important for this.
Image



Zinc shortens common cold duration by 30-40%.

Zinc lozenges have been repeatedly shown to be effective for dealing with this, by:

✪ Reducing inflammation
✪ Stopping viral replication
✪ Having direct antimicrobial effects
Image



Zinc + Vitamin C powerfully reduce heavy metals.

‣ Both prevent absorption of lead, cadmium, etc
‣ Zinc directly promotes their excretion by producing metallothionein
‣ Both critical for antioxidant protection against them

Some of our best protection.
Image



Zinc deficiency is a HUGE problem.

Around 17% of people globally are deficient.

Plus, our bodies lose it during:

• Stress
• Aging
• Inflammation
• Higher fiber intakes
• Exercise

yet we are SO dependent on it for nearly every function.
Image



The best food sources of zinc BY FAR are oysters and red meat.

You need more of these foods than you think just to meet the RDA (~10 mg).

A huge problem is that phytates in grains impede our absorption of it, so even with sufficient quantities, it can be tough to get enough.
Image


Which of course brings up the topic of supplementation.

Zinc:

• Gluconate
• Acetate
• Sulfate
• Citrate

can all work. We typically use gluconate.

Zinc Carnosine is the most well studied for zinc's benefits on the gut, but can still increase zinc systemically.

Other forms don't seem to be as good.

I think going up to 30-50 mg of elemental zinc daily is pretty reasonable.

Many say you NEED to supplement copper alongside zinc, but unless you're going to high doses I don't think that's true. We typically get plenty of copper in the diet, and the zinc / copper ratio declines with aging, disease, stress etc.

Copper & iron are much more reactive and potentially harmful than zinc, and:

- Estrogen increases iron & copper absorption
- Excess copper can increase estrogen
- Zinc prevents excess estrogenicity
- Zinc protects against intracellular iron / copper toxicity
- Zinc inhibits absorption of both
- Copper + iron are in lots of foods, zinc is not​
So supplement zinc?
 
how much shit do I need to supplement then the fuck?
Can you make a list of all of the supplements that are recommended for us to take
 
It heals the gut & skin, reduces inflammation & fatigue, and massively boosts sexual health.
That's just scratching the surface.

The benefits of ZINC are nearly endless:

Image



Zinc rapidly repairs the gut.
The gut can be broken down by bacterial toxins (LPS) or high doses of antibiotics, but zinc gluconate:

• Alleviates digestive symptoms
• Prevents "leaky gut"
• Decreases pathogenic bacteria

possibly the #1 nutrient for digestion.
Image



Zinc boosts metabolism.

Zinc is necessary for thyroid hormone:

• Production
• Conversion
• Signaling

Periods of zinc deficiency (MP2 here) drastically lower metabolism.
Image



Zinc carnosine prevents "leaky gut."

37.5 mg, 2x daily, completely halted the permeability in the intestine.

This permeability drives:

• Various gut symptoms
• Food intolerance
• Systemic inflammation
Image



Zinc Carnosine powerfully reduces gut inflammation.

People with ulcerative colitis (inflammatory bowel disease) taking it:

‣ Dramatically reduced disease progression
‣ Reduced digestive symptoms by nearly 40%

Antibacterial, anti-inflammatory, repairs gut lining.
Image



Zinc is the ultimate nutrient for SKIN.

Zinc has shown promise for:

⬩Warts
⬩Acne
⬩Rosacea
⬩Vitiligo
⬩Psoriasis
⬩Eczema
⬩Sunburn
⬩Wrinkles
⬩Dandruff

It supports nearly every process in regenerating new skin.
Image



Zinc is a critical factor in hair loss.

Zinc:

• Levels very low in alopecia
• A vital cofactor for growth and differentiation of keratinocytes (hair producing cells)
• Oral / topical supplementation can have benefit for growth
Image



Zinc reverses fatigue.

Zinc at just 30 mg per day reduced fatigue by ~20% within 3 months.

Zinc:

‣ Enhances mitochondrial energy production
‣ Has anti-inflammatory function
‣ Required in hormonal signaling + production

and levels declines in aging.
Image



Zinc low, copper high in chronic fatigue / pain.

Excess copper can:

• Increase estrogen
• Drive inflammation
• Cause oxidative stress

contributing to fibromyalgia - zinc opposes these functions.
Image



Zinc is an anti-aging nutrient.

The Copper / Zinc ratio is elevated in:

‣ Age‣ Cancer
‣ Inflammation
‣ Insulin resistance
‣ Autism

Zinc levels decline as we age, less zinc relative to copper predicts death.
Image



Zinc reduces depression by half.

Just 25 mg of zinc daily was shown to have this effect.

Zinc:

⬩Lowers glutamate
⬩Reduce intracellular calcium
⬩Antagonizes the NMDA system
⬩Increases BDNF

In the brain, all vital for neurological function.
Image



Zinc dramatically lowers cortisol.

A 50 mg zinc dose suppressed the stress hormone by around 70% here.

While the HPA axis, which produces cortisol, depletes zinc, adding it back in markedly lowers this stress system.
Image



Zinc levels are low in anxiety.

Stress, the principle driver of anxiety, is one factor that depletes zinc status.

Supplementation has shown benefits as well.
Image



Zinc for a good night's sleep.

Consuming 40g oysters (B):

‣ Increased sleep efficiency
‣ Decreased time to fall asleep

Compared to eating low zinc scallops.

Zinc's potent anti-stress effects on display once again.
Image



Zinc is a Godsend for male sexual health.

Low T men given zinc for under 2 months:

‣ More than DOUBLED sperm count‣ Increased testosterone by over 50%
‣ Increased DHT by over 30%

9/22 men got their wives pregnant, when none could for 5 years prior.
Image



Zinc lowers estrogen.

Excess estrogen is a serious issue, even for women.

Production of estrogen from androgens increases in:

‣ Aging
‣ Inflammation
‣ Fat accumulation

Zinc deficiency compounds this, further increasing the conversion of androgens to estrogens.
Image



Zinc supercharges libido, sexual performance.

Zinc:

‣ Raises testosterone / Free T / DHT
‣ Enhances libido (in men & women)
‣ Improves erectile function
‣ Enhances sperm quality, abundance
‣ Involved in ALL steroid hormone signaling

no mineral more important for this.
Image



Zinc shortens common cold duration by 30-40%.

Zinc lozenges have been repeatedly shown to be effective for dealing with this, by:

✪ Reducing inflammation
✪ Stopping viral replication
✪ Having direct antimicrobial effects
Image



Zinc + Vitamin C powerfully reduce heavy metals.

‣ Both prevent absorption of lead, cadmium, etc
‣ Zinc directly promotes their excretion by producing metallothionein
‣ Both critical for antioxidant protection against them

Some of our best protection.
Image



Zinc deficiency is a HUGE problem.

Around 17% of people globally are deficient.

Plus, our bodies lose it during:

• Stress
• Aging
• Inflammation
• Higher fiber intakes
• Exercise

yet we are SO dependent on it for nearly every function.
Image



The best food sources of zinc BY FAR are oysters and red meat.

You need more of these foods than you think just to meet the RDA (~10 mg).

A huge problem is that phytates in grains impede our absorption of it, so even with sufficient quantities, it can be tough to get enough.
Image


Which of course brings up the topic of supplementation.

Zinc:

• Gluconate
• Acetate
• Sulfate
• Citrate

can all work. We typically use gluconate.

Zinc Carnosine is the most well studied for zinc's benefits on the gut, but can still increase zinc systemically.

Other forms don't seem to be as good.

I think going up to 30-50 mg of elemental zinc daily is pretty reasonable.

Many say you NEED to supplement copper alongside zinc, but unless you're going to high doses I don't think that's true. We typically get plenty of copper in the diet, and the zinc / copper ratio declines with aging, disease, stress etc.

Copper & iron are much more reactive and potentially harmful than zinc, and:

- Estrogen increases iron & copper absorption
- Excess copper can increase estrogen
- Zinc prevents excess estrogenicity
- Zinc protects against intracellular iron / copper toxicity
- Zinc inhibits absorption of both
- Copper + iron are in lots of foods, zinc is not​
cool thread
 
very good thread, I started consuming zinc a week ago and I'm already seeing results
 
So supplement zinc?

mhm. but don’t be dumb about it. go for 30-50 mg elemental zinc daily (gluconate or carnosine are solid), balance your diet, and don’t stress over copper unless you’re mega-dosing. zinc’s underrated as fuck, but more isn’t always better.
 
mhm. but don’t be dumb about it. go for 30-50 mg elemental zinc daily (gluconate or carnosine are solid), balance your diet, and don’t stress over copper unless you’re mega-dosing. zinc’s underrated as fuck, but more isn’t always better.
what would be the best one
 
what would be the best one

gut health --> zinc carnosine (37.5 mg twice a day)

general use --> zinc gluconate (cheap, effective, and widely available. prioritize food first (oysters/red meat), then supplement smartly)
 
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Can you make a list of all of the supplements that are recommended for us to take

this is basically my daily supplementation (directly or indirectly support testosterone and dht production):

1. vitamin d3

dose: 5,000 iu daily (taken with food containing fat).
if you’re getting tested, aim for a blood level of 50–80 ng/ml.

2. magnesium
-forms to take: magnesium glycinate, citrate, or taurate. AVOID OXIDE (it's fucking useless).
-dose: 200–400 mg daily, preferably before bed for relaxation.

3. zinc (ofc)

- dose: 15–30 mg daily, ideally from zinc picolinate, gluconate or zinc citrate.
- don’t overdo it. too much zinc can deplete copper.

4. omega-3 fatty acids

- sources: fish oil (epa/dha) or eat fatty fish like salmon.
- dose: 2–4 grams daily of combined epa + dha.

5. creatine monohydrate

- dose: 3–5 grams daily, preferably post-workout.
 
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Remember that copper depletion can cause neuropathy and it can happen via excess zinc Ingestion so don't over do zinc.
 
this is basically my daily supplementation (directly or indirectly support testosterone and dht production):

1. vitamin d3

dose: 5,000 iu daily (taken with food containing fat).
if you’re getting tested, aim for a blood level of 50–80 ng/ml.

2. magnesium
-forms to take: magnesium glycinate, citrate, or taurate. AVOID OXIDE (it's fucking useless).
-dose: 200–400 mg daily, preferably before bed for relaxation.

3. zinc (ofc)

- dose: 15–30 mg daily, ideally from zinc picolinate, gluconate or zinc citrate.
- don’t overdo it. too much zinc can deplete copper.

4. omega-3 fatty acids

- sources: fish oil (epa/dha) or eat fatty fish like salmon.
- dose: 2–4 grams daily of combined epa + dha.

5. creatine monohydrate

- dose: 3–5 grams daily, preferably post-workout.
I'm taking dha+epa but what are the benefits of it?
 

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