Over For Implantcels—Silicon Implants Bone Reabsorption

[ascentium]

Over for implantcels.
Are there any alternatives to silicon implants re zygos & under-eye besides fillers which come with their own problems?

Summary:
Silicone chin implants are frequently used in cosmetic surgery to enhance a harmonic face. Obtaining an aesthetically pleasing face is increasingly becoming more important for people, and a considerable part of this goal can be achieved through different aesthetic modifications of the chin. The purpose of this study was to analyze the presence of bone resorption after the insertion of silicone chin implants, with lateral chin radiographs. Fifteen patients were studied, all of whom had a chin silicone implant inserted at least 1 year ago using the same surgical technique. The surgery was done intraorally with insertion of the silicone implant under the periosteum of the chin. Fourteen patients presented bone erosion, with the maximum of 2.0 mm erosion.

Bone Resorption after Use of Silicone Chin Implants, Long-term Follow-up Study with Lateral Chin Radiography

Silicone chin implants are frequently used in cosmetic surgery to enhance a harmonic face. Obtaining an aesthetically pleasing face is increasingly becoming more important for people, and a considerable part of this goal can be achieved through different ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

bone implants when

 

[RealSurgerymax]

All of these are poorly placed, free implants.

Many plastic surgeons suture the implant in place and say they are not free because of the tight capsule formation. This does not stop the micromovements which happen every time you move your mouth as the mentalis muscles are directly over this implant. All facial implants and especially chin implants should be screw fixated.

A screw fixated properly placed implant will not result in any significant bone erosion 99.5% of the time.

But if you are still concerned about it and don’t want a drastically new or unique shaped chin, then sliding genioplasty is an option.

 

[highT]

All of these are poorly placed, free implants.

Many plastic surgeons suture the implant in place and say they are not free because of the tight capsule formation. This does not stop the micromovements which happen every time you move your mouth as the mentalis muscles are directly over this implant. All facial implants and especially chin implants should be screw fixated.

A screw fixated properly placed implant will not result in any significant bone erosion 99.5% of the time.

But if you are still concerned about it and don’t want a drastically new or unique shaped chin, then sliding genioplasty is an option.

JFL at having a piece of silicone (a soft flexible material) held in place by a single screw. One unfortunate fall, or punch to the face, or car accident etc. and it’s game over. Hell, it would probably take much less impact than a punch to cause small movements. Fuck silicone implants. Why can’t some fucking science nerd just invent synthetic bone material for skull augmentation already

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Hydroxyapatite implants are being released next year in brazil. its a material that becomes bone.

 

[highT]

Hydroxyapatite implants are being released next year in brazil. its a material that becomes bone.

Imagine when there are Eppley/ Yaremchuk-esque surgeons who specialize in custom implants who specifically use this material. Absolutely incredible to imagine

 

[RealSurgerymax]

JFL at having a piece of silicone (a soft flexible material) held in place by a single screw. One unfortunate fall, or punch to the face, or car accident etc. and it’s game over. Hell, it would probably take much less impact than a punch to cause small movements. Fuck silicone implants. Why can’t some fucking science nerd just invent synthetic bone material for skull augmentation already

Not true at all. If I was an MMA fighter I would get a very large silicone wraparound and full midface mask implant, and brow ridge implant, all silicone.

Hydroxyapatite implants are being released next year in brazil. its a material that becomes bone.

Unfortunately that is an exaggeration.

see my reply here:

HA is a material most commonly used as a paste in genioplasty surgery.

Studies have shown little bone erosion and sometimes even a small amount of Osteoconductivity. Medpor is not osteoconductive - it is plastic (polyethylene - the same exact kind of plastic Walmart bags and milk jugs are made from) and fibrous scar tissue and vascular tissue grows into it.

A large HA Implant will probably never turn to bone, because it’s not that osteoconductive.




As above, this is just another implant material with its own advantages and disadvantages. It really not a game changer.

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Imagine when there are Eppley/ Yaremchuk-esque surgeons who specialize in custom implants who specifically use this material. Absolutely incredible to imagine

eppley is overpriced. these implants will be custom made here in Brazil too

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Not true at all. If I was an MMA fighter I would get a very large silicone wraparound and full midface mask implant, and brow ridge implant, all silicone.




Unfortunately that is an exaggeration.

see my reply here:

will infraorbital/zygo implants turn mostly into bone?

 

[RealSurgerymax]

eppley is overpriced. these implants will be custom made here in Brazil too

Who puts them in in Brazil?

 

[RealSurgerymax]

will infraorbital/zygo implants turn mostly into bone?

Maybe with some cortical perforations

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Who puts them in in Brazil?

I can PM the surgeon if u want

 

[RealSurgerymax]

I can PM the surgeon if u want

Yes I’m just curious

 

[ascentium]

All of these are poorly placed, free implants.

Many plastic surgeons suture the implant in place and say they are not free because of the tight capsule formation. This does not stop the micromovements which happen every time you move your mouth as the mentalis muscles are directly over this implant. All facial implants and especially chin implants should be screw fixated.

A screw fixated properly placed implant will not result in any significant bone erosion 99.5% of the time.

But if you are still concerned about it and don’t want a drastically new or unique shaped chin, then sliding genioplasty is an option.

Doesn’t look like the screws will hold.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Doesn’t look like the screws will hold.

Oh believe me I saw that. He talks about bone erosion to the point of eroding into the sinuses but shows pictures of a normal and expected implant impression.

Then 2 weeks later he posted on his story him implanting a Silicone Implantech Extentended Anatomical Chin - Large.

If these complications were really happening consistently we would have seen them by now. But to date I don’t know of 1 case proven with scans. It’s still a hypothetical small risk if depending on your genetic osteoclastic/osteoblastic balance.

 

[ascentium]

Oh believe me I saw that. He talks about bone erosion to the point of eroding into the sinuses but shows pictures of a normal and expected implant impression.

Then 2 weeks later he posted on his story him implanting a Silicone Implantech Extentended Anatomical Chin - Large.

If these complications were really happening consistently we would have seen them by now. But to date I don’t know of 1 case proven with scans. It’s still a hypothetical small risk if depending on your genetic osteoclastic/osteoblastic balance.

Thanks for the information. I think I feel better about getting zygos implants.

do you know any decent surgeons that’d be able to install infraorb & zygos implant in the states, who won’t charge an arm & a leg?

 

[highT]

Not true at all. If I was an MMA fighter I would get a very large silicone wraparound and full midface mask implant, and brow ridge implant, all silicone.

First of all, no you wouldn’t.

Second of all, that’s the dumbest fucking idea I’ve ever heard.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

First of all, no you wouldn’t.

Second of all, that’s the dumbest fucking idea I’ve ever heard.

Yes I would and no it’s not.

Between the screw fixation and implant capsule the implant isn’t going anywhere short of a mortal injury like head being run over/crushed by a car in which case it doesn’t even matter does it.

Silicone is the best choice for people who do contact sports because of
1.) The elastic deformation property of silicone (unlike Medpor) means it will never break or permanently deform/get squished
2.) It’s shock absorbance while more rigid implant materials will transfer the energy right to the bone (and maybe even act as leverage point transferring all of that energy to a mini screw and causing a small bone fracture)

Simply put if you take a blow to the face bad enough to extrude a healed implant out of your face then that is the least of your worries because your eyes are probably out of the socket too.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Thanks for the information. I think I feel better about getting zygos implants.

do you know any decent surgeons that’d be able to install infraorb & zygos implant in the states, who won’t charge an arm & a leg?

If you are worried about cost I recommend you look internationally where the cost of healthcare is more reasonable without sacrificing experience or safety.

 

[Luis]

I can PM the surgeon if u want

Also curious (I am from there)