over for me

[iblameccwr]

im 14, 5'6 but didnt start my growth spurt yet
my mom is 5'2 and my dad is 5'7 so i dont think ill get much from my growth spurt
i wanna hop on hgh and anastrozole but i literally have no way of ordering it, hiding, or reconstituting since i dont have a card, or apple pay, or anything and i dont have a place to hide them
what should i do

 

[Grievous]

say to them
'mum let me self medicate exogenous hormones because a bunch of incels online told me'

 

[iblameccwr]

say to them
'mum let me self medicate exogenous hormones because a bunch of incels online told me'

never thought of this
gonna give it a try

 

[neuro.]

im 14, 5'6 but didnt start my growth spurt yet
my mom is 5'2 and my dad is 5'7 so i dont think ill get much from my growth spurt
i wanna hop on hgh and anastrozole but i literally have no way of ordering it, hiding, or reconstituting since i dont have a card, or apple pay, or anything and i dont have a place to hide them
what should i do

if you really want peps that bad, it isn't hard to set up apple pay.

 

[RetaRetaReta]

im 14, 5'6 but didnt start my growth spurt yet
my mom is 5'2 and my dad is 5'7 so i dont think ill get much from my growth spurt
i wanna hop on hgh and anastrozole but i literally have no way of ordering it, hiding, or reconstituting since i dont have a card, or apple pay, or anything and i dont have a place to hide them
what should i do

Do you have the money for it at least

 

[zygosmasher12]

im 14, 5'6 but didnt start my growth spurt yet
my mom is 5'2 and my dad is 5'7 so i dont think ill get much from my growth spurt
i wanna hop on hgh and anastrozole but i literally have no way of ordering it, hiding, or reconstituting since i dont have a card, or apple pay, or anything and i dont have a place to hide them
what should i do

if you truly want to max out your height potential, stay as healthy as possible, perfect sleep, focus on your diet. injecting yourself is mostly cope when it comes to height, youre lucky to get an inch of growth with hgh

 

[iblameccwr]

Do you have the money for it at least

no not a penny to my name
i sound retarted saying this because first i should work on actually attaining the money
but hypothetical

 

[the foid stalker]

im 14, 5'6 but didnt start my growth spurt yet

That's rare asf for an Indian, you will likely be 6'2" if that is pre-puberty height

 

[RetaRetaReta]

no not a penny to my name
i sound retarted saying this because first i should work on actually attaining the money
but hypothetical

Well you're gonna need like $100/month for HGH. If you can't get $100/month in pocket money

I would just emotional dump on your parents.

Start crying. Say how you are being bullied at school for your height. Tell them you want money to buy HGH. Tell them all your friends are using it and it's safe. And then say you are gonna kill yourself if they don't give you the money for it. Make it super convincing

 

[iblameccwr]

That's rare asf for an Indian, you will likely be 6'2" if that is pre-puberty height

i think im in like early tanner stage 3

 

[the foid stalker]

Well you're gonna need like $100/month for HGH. If you can't get $100/month in pocket money

I would just emotional dump on your parents.

Start crying. Say how you are being bullied at school for your height. Tell them you want money to buy HGH. Tell them all your friends are using it and it's safe. And then say you are gonna kill yourself if they don't give you the money for it. Make it super convincing

Heightmaxxing is cope

 

[acidonmyface]

what should i do

You can’t afford neither the substances nor the necessary conditions for keeping them. If you can’t afford the blood work or even xrays to determine your bone age then don’t consider hopping on imo

There’s no point in stressing over it if you haven’t hit your growth spurt yet. It’s better to focus on making money in case you actually need to pin in the future once your puberty starts

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

im 14, 5'6 but didnt start my growth spurt yet
my mom is 5'2 and my dad is 5'7 so i dont think ill get much from my growth spurt
i wanna hop on hgh and anastrozole but i literally have no way of ordering it, hiding, or reconstituting since i dont have a card, or apple pay, or anything and i dont have a place to hide them
what should i do

Your done growing

 

[iblameccwr]

Your done growing

i guess bro

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

i guess bro

You are pretty much done growing

 

[iblameccwr]

You are pretty much done growing

didnt even start my growth spurt

 

[epsilonic]

im 14, 5'6 but didnt start my growth spurt yet
my mom is 5'2 and my dad is 5'7 so i dont think ill get much from my growth spurt
i wanna hop on hgh and anastrozole but i literally have no way of ordering it, hiding, or reconstituting since i dont have a card, or apple pay, or anything and i dont have a place to hide them
what should i do

your face and height is forever, take the risk!

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

didnt even start my growth spurt

This is what every teenager tells themsleves i swear to god

You scientifically have already hit your growth spurt. It doesnt matteer what you tell yourself, as somebody whos researching eightmaxxing for years

 

[iblameccwr]

This is what every teenager tells themsleves i swear to god

You scientifically have already hit your growth spurt. It doesnt matteer what you tell yourself, as somebody whos researching eightmaxxing for years

explain how

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

explain how

Because your 5'6 nigga , if oyu hadnt hit your "growth spurt" you would be way shorter. Thats not how bodys work nigga

Even if you had like 6'0+ parents it means you already are in your growth spurt

You might reach 5'7 atleast since ur14

 

[ascensionisgold]

im 14, 5'6 but didnt start my growth spurt yet
my mom is 5'2 and my dad is 5'7 so i dont think ill get much from my growth spurt
i wanna hop on hgh and anastrozole but i literally have no way of ordering it, hiding, or reconstituting since i dont have a card, or apple pay, or anything and i dont have a place to hide them
what should i do

Give urself some time 5'6 at 14 isn't bad

 

[iblameccwr]

Because your 5'6 nigga , if oyu hadnt hit your "growth spurt" you would be way shorter. Thats not how bodys work nigga

Even if you had like 6'0+ parents it means you already are in your growth spurt

You might reach 5'7 atleast since ur14

i just grew steadily during childhood and now im in early/mid puberty

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

i just grew steadily during childhood and now im in early/mid puberty

Keep telling yourself that. A growth spurt is considered anything over 2.4 inches a year btw, in your little brain of yours you probably thin you havent hit yur gorwth spurt yet because you didnt grow 4 inches a year

Im not even gonna try to help you you are just going to keep lying to yourself in delusion. Just come back to me when you grow older and barely grow

 

[acm]

Keep telling yourself that. A growth spurt is considered anything over 2.4 inches a year btw, in your little brain of yours you probably thin you havent hit yur gorwth spurt yet because you didnt grow 4 inches a year

Im not even gonna try to help you you are just going to keep lying to yourself in delusion. Just come back to me when you grow older and barely grow

 

[the foid stalker]

Because your 5'6 nigga , if oyu hadnt hit your "growth spurt" you would be way shorter. Thats not how bodys work nigga

Even if you had like 6'0+ parents it means you already are in your growth spurt

You might reach 5'7 atleast since ur14

He's Tanner 3, indian, 14, and already 5'6, which is already incredibly rare considering his parents are 5'2 and 5'7. I would say he has plenty of height growth left, since even late bloomers add 7-9 inches from that point. Considering how his height at 14 has already exceeded the parental mean, no, I wouldn't say 5'7 is the ceiling here; 6'0 or higher is definitely plausible. Indians also have later growth spurts on average.

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

He's Tanner 3, indian, 14, and already 5'6, which is already incredibly rare considering his parents are 5'2 and 5'7. I would say he has plenty of height growth left, since even late bloomers add 7-9 inches from that point. Considering how his height at 14 has already exceeded the parental mean, no, I wouldn't say 5'7 is the ceiling here; 6'0 or higher is definitely plausible. Indians also have later growth spurts on average.

and where is this info coming from exactly

and who said he is tanner 3 nigga

 

[the foid stalker]

i think im in like early tanner stage 3

and where is this info coming from exactly

and who said he is tanner 3 nigga

I know he is Indian from his other threads also he said he was tanner 3 here. You can check his post history he is an Indian and looks younger than his age actually.

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

That's rare asf for an Indian, you will likely be 6'2" if that is pre-puberty height

alr man now i know your just saying shit

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

I know he is Indian from his other threads also he said he was tanner 3 here. You can check his post history he is an Indian and looks younger than his age actually.

nigga im talkign about where you got your "plenty of heigh gorwth left and 7-9 inches from"

besides tiktok and reddit

 

[the foid stalker]

alr man now i know your just saying shit

I'm not though lmfao. He's already above mid-parental height

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

I'm not though lmfao. He's already above mid-parental height

nigga

he is literlaly growing normally as every teenager does

this is the most normal growth pattern ever

 

[the foid stalker]

nigga im talkign about where you got your "plenty of heigh gorwth left and 7-9 inches from"

besides tiktok and reddit

Tell me how I'm wrong then?

 

[the foid stalker]

nigga

he is literlaly growing normally as every teenager does

this is the most normal growth pattern ever

Just because he's growing normally doesn't mean he's done growing. If he is 5'6 at 14 and early Tanner 3, that means he's before the peak height velocity stage. This is just textbook information basic shit. And because he is above the mid-parental height (the average prediction), it strengthens the case. Late bloomers tend to go past this range all the time. 6'2 is still plausible given all the information and puberty timing.

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

Tell me how I'm wrong then?

well 7-9 is just fucking wrong,

i cant even prove it wrong because i dont even know where you pulled it from like its like telling me to prove me wrong that im not donald trump

anyways this is how regular growth works. you got most of your information from bluepilled normies sayign your keep growing steadily until your 21

hes 5'6 and 14 (where most boys have hit their growth spurts then) with short parents. hes finised up most of his growth

just look at any growth patterns in the US>

this is just one pattern but see how always after 14 their growth slows down significantly

this is

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

Just because he's growing normally doesn't mean he's done growing. If he is 5'6 at 14 and early Tanner 3, that means he's before the peak height velocity stage. This is just textbook information basic shit. And because he is above the mid-parental height (the average prediction), it strengthens the case. Late bloomers tend to go past this range all the time. 6'2 is still plausible given all the information and puberty timing.

who the fuck said hes a late bloomer and early tanner 3

bro him being taller right now means its worse


i genuinely dont know if your ragebaiting with 6'2

 

[the foid stalker]

That graph is a population average assuming average puberty timing it does not apply to this kids case since he is early Tanner 3 at 14. Therefore, the curve woudl shift right since he is a late bloomer. The peak height velocity (google this term) happens after early Tanner 3. So you pointing to this curve and saying his growth slows after 14 is meaningless without the stage.

By standard medical definition he is a late bloomer according to his standard stage, him being 5'6 here just means he hasn't hit the peak height velocity phase yet. My claim of 7-9 inches is not some bullshit, it is from the CDC and Tanner/Marshall data from boys who enter Tanner 3 late. I should have said 6'2 is plausible, so saying "he's already is tall so its worse" is wrong man. Height without the puberty context tells u literally nothing.

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

That graph is a population average assuming average puberty timing it does not apply to this kids case since he is early Tanner 3 at 14. Therefore, the curve woudl shift right since he is a late bloomer. The peak height velocity (google this term) happens after early Tanner 3. So you pointing to this curve and saying his growth slows after 14 is meaningless without the stage.

By standard medical definition he is a late bloomer according to his standard stage, him being 5'6 here just means he hasn't hit the peak height velocity phase yet. My claim of 7-9 inches is not some bullshit, it is from the CDC and Tanner/Marshall data from boys who enter Tanner 3 late. I should have said 6'2 is plausible, so saying "he's already is tall so its worse" is wrong man. Height without the puberty context tells u literally nothing.

Nigga who the fuck said hes a late bloomer

How do you know hes a late bloomer? DId you xray his results?

My claim isnt wrong either

He is a regular teenage boy going throw regular growth.


Both our claims can be correct but the onyl way your claim is correct is if hes a 0.000001% outlier, so im gonna assume im the correct one since itll probably be correct

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

My claim of 7-9 inches is not some bullshit, it is from the CDC and Tanner/Marshall data from boys who enter Tanner 3 late.

send me the data

 

[the foid stalker]

send me the data

https://academic.oup.com/jes/article/4/9/bvaa098/5873251?

Relationship Between Timing of Peak Height Velocity and Pubertal Staging in Boys and Girls - PMC

Growth and pubertal development are important health markers. We used the data of a longitudinal growth study on a contemporary sample of US youth to examine the relationship between peak height velocity (PHV) and Tanner staging. We observed a ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Growth Charts - Clinical Growth Charts

www.cdc.gov

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

https://academic.oup.com/jes/article/4/9/bvaa098/5873251?

Relationship Between Timing of Peak Height Velocity and Pubertal Staging in Boys and Girls - PMC

Growth and pubertal development are important health markers. We used the data of a longitudinal growth study on a contemporary sample of US youth to examine the relationship between peak height velocity (PHV) and Tanner staging. We observed a ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Growth Charts - Clinical Growth Charts

www.cdc.gov

niggga dont just send me random studies bro im not gonna read throug every single one of them

cite where you are getting your point from, thats what your supposed to do

 

[the foid stalker]

How do you know hes a late bloomer?

The tanner stage nigga, the TANNER STAGE

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

The tanner stage nigga, the TANNER STAGE

oh so you think hes tanner stage 3 because he said so

congrats

 

[the foid stalker]

oh so you think hes tanner stage 3 because he said so

congrats

Rate and how can I ascend?

I’m 14 and I’m really recessed with horrible genetics rate and how can I ascend?

looksmax.org

What do u think

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

Rate and how can I ascend?

I’m 14 and I’m really recessed with horrible genetics rate and how can I ascend?

looksmax.org

What do u think

he doesnt even look tanner stage 3 infact he looks around 15 even

even then if he looked young as shit it wouldnt mean shit anyways

the problem with you is that you keep basing your claims of 0.000001% outliers to cope with a comfortable lie

i keep my claims on averages and non-copes because i like the harsh truth better

 

[the foid stalker]

niggga dont just send me random studies bro im not gonna read throug every single one of them

cite where you are getting your point from, thats what your supposed to do

Ok from this link here https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4677560/

It supports that a boy at TS3 can stillbe normal even if the major growth spurt hasn't happened yet since many boys hit the peak height velocity later.

Exact wording it says "a boy who is TS 3 with no evidence of a growth spurt may still have normal growth because the majority of boys do not reach their PHV until TS 4."

The other link: https://academic.oup.com/jes/article/4/9/bvaa098/5873251?

It supports that a lot of height is gained after puberty starts, and the timing varies a lot. So you saying at 14 he's basically done is just some BS because you keep ignoring the tanner stage context. The bottom of page 1 of that pdf

It says that even after puberty begins, it's still possible to gain up to 36 cm.

The CDC growth charts are just average references. From the two sources above, I can say that the most likely adult height for this person is 5'11.5 to 6'0 with 6'2 being still possible.

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

Ok from this link here https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4677560/

It supports that a boy at TS3 can stillbe normal even if the major growth spurt hasn't happened yet since many boys hit the peak height velocity later.

Exact wording it says "a boy who is TS 3 with no evidence of a growth spurt may still have normal growth because the majority of boys do not reach their PHV until TS 4."

ok? what’s your point ?when did I disagree or say that a boy who is tanner stage 3 and didn’t have their growth spurt yet aren’t in there peak height velocity?

just sending random studies like I said before

It supports that a lot of height is gained after puberty starts, and the timing varies a lot.

water found in the ocean

again what the fuck does this have to do with what were were talking about

So you saying at 14 he's basically done is just some BS because you keep ignoring the tanner stage context. The bottom of page 1 of that pdf View attachment 4418402

It says that even after puberty begins, it's still possible to gain up to 36 cm.

The CDC growth charts are just average references. From the two sources above, I can say that the most likely adult height for this person is 5'11.5 to 6'0 with 6'2 being still possible.

nigga I said at 14 most boys have went through their major growth stages and slow down

It says that even after puberty begins, it's still possible to gain up to 36 cm.

The CDC growth charts are just average references. From the two sources above, I can say that the most likely adult height for this person is 5'11.5 to 6'0 with 6'2 being still possible.

yeah right after puberty BEGINS

what does that have to do with this dude? did he just hit puberty?

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

you just sent me a whole lot of nothing

you are keep trying to cope with a comfortable lie instead of accepting the truth

 

[the foid stalker]

ok? what’s your point ?when did I disagree or say that a boy who is tanner stage 3 and didn’t have their growth spurt yet aren’t in there peak height velocity?

just sending random studies like I said before


water found in the ocean

again what the fuck does this have to do with what were were talking about

nigga I said at 14 most boys have went through their major growth stages and slow down



yeah right after puberty BEGINS

what does that have to do with this dude? did he just hit puberty?

JFL you keep saying “whole lot of nothing” because you’re too fucking lazy to read three paragraphs. The truth is, you’re scared that I’m right. the exact data since you can’t focus

From the pmc source


“A boy who is TS 3 with no evidence of a growth spurt may still have normal growth because the majority of boys do not reach their PHV until TS 4.”

Table 1 from that source shows 58.9% of boys have achieved PHV by Tanner Stage 4, which means 41.1% are still pre-PHV at TS4. At TS3, only 30.4% have reached PHV, meaning close to 70% are still pre-PHV. So the claim that “most boys at 14 have already gone through major growth” is bullshit without Tanner context. The data shows that a large % of boys at TS3 have not yet hit their growth spurt. So this is cleared

The mean age at PHV is 13.7 years (SD 1.4) (Results Section says it). A 14-year-old is only 0.3 years past the mean, within normal variation. Late bloomers reach PHV later, meaning PHV may not have occurred yet. This is what the study refers to by “substantial variability,” in the conclusions section which you ignored by focusing only on the average.

From the pdf source miller I quoted:

“Up to 36 cm (or 15%) of eventual adult height can be accrued after pubertal onset.”

This is from the Tanner and Marshal studies from 1970 https://jeremy-brown-vpk4.squarespace.com/s/Tanner-Puberty-in-boys.pdf here it is clinical definition that Pubertal onset = TS 2 (median age 11.5 years). At 14, he’s 2.5 years past onset. If he’s delayed (TS 3 at 14), he’s 15–20 cm into that 36 cm window. Remaining growth = 16–21 cm (6–8 inches).

Marshall & Tanner (1970) define pubertal onset as TS 2 (genital stage 2).
Median age for TS 2 ≈ 11.5 years.

At 14.0, he is 2.5 years past onset.
If he is delayed (TS 3 at 14), he is ~15–20 cm into the 36 cm post-onset growth window.
Remaining growth: 16–21 cm (6–8 inches).

Miller Table 3 - Age Distribution for TS 3 Males, Genital Stage

Non-Hispanic White
50th: 12.9
75th: 13.8
Max: 17.9

Non-Hispanic Black
50th: 12.7
75th: 13.6
Max: 17.1

Hispanic
50th: 13.0
75th: 14.0
Max: 16.4

At age 14.0, TS 3:

Non-Hispanic White
+1.1 years past median
+0.2 years past 75th

Non-Hispanic Black
+1.3 years past median
+0.4 years past 75th

Hispanic
+1.0 year past median
Right at 75th (14.0)

He's not a “90th percentile outlier.”
For Hispanic boys, he is at the ~75th percentile, meaning 25% reach TS 3 later.
This is late but statistically normal.

The Math

Mid-parental height
Dad: 5’7” = 67 in
Mom: 5’2” = 62 in

Mid-parental = (67 + 62 + 5) / 2 = 67 in = 5’7”

The kid is 5’6” (66 in) at 14, TS 3, pre-PHV.
He is 1 inch below which means he can still go over by 2–3 inches with good sleep/nutrition.


Growth hypotheticals based on percentile tracking

Median (50th percentile): PHV already happened means 5’9 final so 3 inches left

75th percentile (late bloomer):
PHV not yet happened means 5’11”–6’0” final 5–6 inches left

90th percentile extreme late bloomer, if he is 15 yrs at TS 3
~6’1”–6’2” final - 7–8 inches left


The CDC growth chart is a population average and does not account for tanner stage. TS adjusted data shows 69.6% of boys at TS 3 are pre PHV. You are using the wrong tool.

69.6% of TS 3 boys are pre-PHV from Granados contradicts most are done growing
TS 3 can occur up to age 17.9 (Miller) so he is not an outlier
Remaining growth for late bloomers is about 6–8 inches

You want the kid to be done growing because you were done at 14 and can't accept that late bloomers exist. The data proves you wrong

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

JFL you keep saying “whole lot of nothing” because you’re too fucking lazy to read three paragraphs. The truth is, you’re scared that I’m right. the exact data since you can’t focus

From the pmc source


“A boy who is TS 3 with no evidence of a growth spurt may still have normal growth because the majority of boys do not reach their PHV until TS 4.”

Table 1 from that source shows 58.9% of boys have achieved PHV by Tanner Stage 4, which means 41.1% are still pre-PHV at TS4. At TS3, only 30.4% have reached PHV, meaning close to 70% are still pre-PHV. So the claim that “most boys at 14 have already gone through major growth” is bullshit without Tanner context. The data shows that a large % of boys at TS3 have not yet hit their growth spurt. So this is cleared

The mean age at PHV is 13.7 years (SD 1.4) (Results Section says it). A 14-year-old is only 0.3 years past the mean, within normal variation. Late bloomers reach PHV later, meaning PHV may not have occurred yet. This is what the study refers to by “substantial variability,” in the conclusions section which you ignored by focusing only on the average.

From the pdf source miller I quoted:

“Up to 36 cm (or 15%) of eventual adult height can be accrued after pubertal onset.”

This is from the Tanner and Marshal studies from 1970 https://jeremy-brown-vpk4.squarespace.com/s/Tanner-Puberty-in-boys.pdf here it is clinical definition that Pubertal onset = TS 2 (median age 11.5 years). At 14, he’s 2.5 years past onset. If he’s delayed (TS 3 at 14), he’s 15–20 cm into that 36 cm window. Remaining growth = 16–21 cm (6–8 inches).

Marshall & Tanner (1970) define pubertal onset as TS 2 (genital stage 2).
Median age for TS 2 ≈ 11.5 years.

At 14.0, he is 2.5 years past onset.
If he is delayed (TS 3 at 14), he is ~15–20 cm into the 36 cm post-onset growth window.
Remaining growth: 16–21 cm (6–8 inches).

Miller Table 3 - Age Distribution for TS 3 Males, Genital Stage
View attachment 4418493

Non-Hispanic White
50th: 12.9
75th: 13.8
Max: 17.9

Non-Hispanic Black
50th: 12.7
75th: 13.6
Max: 17.1

Hispanic
50th: 13.0
75th: 14.0
Max: 16.4

At age 14.0, TS 3:

Non-Hispanic White
+1.1 years past median
+0.2 years past 75th

Non-Hispanic Black
+1.3 years past median
+0.4 years past 75th

Hispanic
+1.0 year past median
Right at 75th (14.0)

He's not a “90th percentile outlier.”
For Hispanic boys, he is at the ~75th percentile, meaning 25% reach TS 3 later.
This is late but statistically normal.

The Math

Mid-parental height
Dad: 5’7” = 67 in
Mom: 5’2” = 62 in

Mid-parental = (67 + 62 + 5) / 2 = 67 in = 5’7”

The kid is 5’6” (66 in) at 14, TS 3, pre-PHV.
He is 1 inch below which means he can still go over by 2–3 inches with good sleep/nutrition.


Growth hypotheticals based on percentile tracking

Median (50th percentile): PHV already happened means 5’9 final so 3 inches left

75th percentile (late bloomer):
PHV not yet happened means 5’11”–6’0” final 5–6 inches left

90th percentile extreme late bloomer, if he is 15 yrs at TS 3
~6’1”–6’2” final - 7–8 inches left


The CDC growth chart is a population average and does not account for tanner stage. TS adjusted data shows 69.6% of boys at TS 3 are pre PHV. You are using the wrong tool.

69.6% of TS 3 boys are pre-PHV from Granados contradicts most are done growing
TS 3 can occur up to age 17.9 (Miller) so he is not an outlier
Remaining growth for late bloomers is about 6–8 inches

You want the kid to be done growing because you were done at 14 and can't accept that late bloomers exist. The data proves you wrong

You are genuinely so retarded

I’m not even gonna argue with you

You just talked about the same “bro late bloomers grow more and the same autistic claims”

My point was that most boys have hit their growth spurts by 14. Any doctor will agree with me

Just shut up man.

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

JFL you keep saying “whole lot of nothing” because you’re too fucking lazy to read three paragraphs. The truth is, you’re scared that I’m right. the exact data since you can’t focus

From the pmc source


“A boy who is TS 3 with no evidence of a growth spurt may still have normal growth because the majority of boys do not reach their PHV until TS 4.”

Table 1 from that source shows 58.9% of boys have achieved PHV by Tanner Stage 4, which means 41.1% are still pre-PHV at TS4. At TS3, only 30.4% have reached PHV, meaning close to 70% are still pre-PHV. So the claim that “most boys at 14 have already gone through major growth” is bullshit without Tanner context. The data shows that a large % of boys at TS3 have not yet hit their growth spurt. So this is cleared

The mean age at PHV is 13.7 years (SD 1.4) (Results Section says it). A 14-year-old is only 0.3 years past the mean, within normal variation. Late bloomers reach PHV later, meaning PHV may not have occurred yet. This is what the study refers to by “substantial variability,” in the conclusions section which you ignored by focusing only on the average.

From the pdf source miller I quoted:

“Up to 36 cm (or 15%) of eventual adult height can be accrued after pubertal onset.”

This is from the Tanner and Marshal studies from 1970 https://jeremy-brown-vpk4.squarespace.com/s/Tanner-Puberty-in-boys.pdf here it is clinical definition that Pubertal onset = TS 2 (median age 11.5 years). At 14, he’s 2.5 years past onset. If he’s delayed (TS 3 at 14), he’s 15–20 cm into that 36 cm window. Remaining growth = 16–21 cm (6–8 inches).

Marshall & Tanner (1970) define pubertal onset as TS 2 (genital stage 2).
Median age for TS 2 ≈ 11.5 years.

At 14.0, he is 2.5 years past onset.
If he is delayed (TS 3 at 14), he is ~15–20 cm into the 36 cm post-onset growth window.
Remaining growth: 16–21 cm (6–8 inches).

Miller Table 3 - Age Distribution for TS 3 Males, Genital Stage
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Non-Hispanic White
50th: 12.9
75th: 13.8
Max: 17.9

Non-Hispanic Black
50th: 12.7
75th: 13.6
Max: 17.1

Hispanic
50th: 13.0
75th: 14.0
Max: 16.4

At age 14.0, TS 3:

Non-Hispanic White
+1.1 years past median
+0.2 years past 75th

Non-Hispanic Black
+1.3 years past median
+0.4 years past 75th

Hispanic
+1.0 year past median
Right at 75th (14.0)

He's not a “90th percentile outlier.”
For Hispanic boys, he is at the ~75th percentile, meaning 25% reach TS 3 later.
This is late but statistically normal.

The Math

Mid-parental height
Dad: 5’7” = 67 in
Mom: 5’2” = 62 in

Mid-parental = (67 + 62 + 5) / 2 = 67 in = 5’7”

The kid is 5’6” (66 in) at 14, TS 3, pre-PHV.
He is 1 inch below which means he can still go over by 2–3 inches with good sleep/nutrition.


Growth hypotheticals based on percentile tracking

Median (50th percentile): PHV already happened means 5’9 final so 3 inches left

75th percentile (late bloomer):
PHV not yet happened means 5’11”–6’0” final 5–6 inches left

90th percentile extreme late bloomer, if he is 15 yrs at TS 3
~6’1”–6’2” final - 7–8 inches left


The CDC growth chart is a population average and does not account for tanner stage. TS adjusted data shows 69.6% of boys at TS 3 are pre PHV. You are using the wrong tool.

69.6% of TS 3 boys are pre-PHV from Granados contradicts most are done growing
TS 3 can occur up to age 17.9 (Miller) so he is not an outlier
Remaining growth for late bloomers is about 6–8 inches

You want the kid to be done growing because you were done at 14 and can't accept that late bloomers exist. The data proves you wrong

I’m not reading allat either btw

You are just a delusional soy boy (probably like 16) trying to feed into this delusion because you think your gonna hit a magical growth spurt and escape your mantis.

Also I’ve been blasting pharma grade hgh and letrozole for over year now and delayed my bone age by an entire year

So jut keep coping wit your delusions

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