Pagnoni Prices

[ThatInfamousDude]

Anyone aware of Pagnoni prices? Specifically bimax (+ widening), genio and infra’s. DM would be appreciated!

 

[HardmaxxUser]

Anyone aware of Pagnoni prices? Specifically bimax (+ widening), genio and infra’s. DM would be appreciated!

my bimax + split genio with him is costing 30k euros total. (Im getting it this coming may( No implants. It was 27k without the split genio.

 

[chrishell]

my bimax + split genio with him is costing 30k euros total. (Im getting it this coming may( No implants. It was 27k without the split genio.

What is a split genio

 

[HardmaxxUser]

What is a split genio

split down the middle for width

 

[chrishell]

split down the middle for width

Would it cost less if you didn't do the split down the middle? Just normal genioplasty?

 

[Radiantmetal]

my bimax + split genio with him is costing 30k euros total. (Im getting it this coming may( No implants. It was 27k without the split genio.

Make sure you work with an Ortho before, I need a revision now. (I went to Pags)

 

[Willmogulater]

Go to sunil RichadSon

 

[ThatInfamousDude]

my bimax + split genio with him is costing 30k euros total. (Im getting it this coming may( No implants. It was 27k without the split genio.

Thanks man! Really appreciate it. Measured it and looks like your bimax included widening of the gonions right?

Anyhow, seems great. Would be happy to know how it goes.

 

[ThatInfamousDude]

Make sure you work with an Ortho before, I need a revision now. (I went to Pags)

Revision is as in? What were the problems? Too much movement or something else?

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Would it cost less if you didn't do the split down the middle? Just normal genioplasty?

More squarish (wider) chin i think, i didn't see any result from it yet

 

[flatcheck213]

Anyone aware of Pagnoni prices? Specifically bimax (+ widening), genio and infra’s. DM would be appreciated!

28k+8k (trimax + 4k each)

 

[flatcheck213]

More squarish (wider) chin i think, i didn't see any result from it yet

The same that Liam posted?

 

[ThatInfamousDude]

28k+8k (trimax + 4k each)

Hmmm, 4k each sounds like a really good deal. Read somewhere that it was like 13-16k, but considering its one surgery (right?) it seems fair.

Seems like the general concensus is roughly 28-30k for trimax.

 

[flatcheck213]

Hmmm, 4k each sounds like a really good deal. Read somewhere that it was like 13-16k, but considering its one surgery (right?) it seems fair.

Seems like the general concensus is roughly 28-30k for trimax.

It was 16k for both supras and infras

 

[tristanbongo]

Go to sunil RichadSon

 

[Willmogulater]

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[Lefor3Laser]

The same that Liam posted?

Yes but i still need to see the results, since soft tissue reacts differently after all, liam one isn't making the chin wider if you look closely, just makes it look squarish.

 

[flatcheck213]

Yes but i still need to see the results, since soft tissue reacts differently after all, liam one isn't making the chin wider if you look closely, just makes it look squarish.

Post op looked straight up like a handsome squidward

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Post op looked straight up like a handsome squidward

I still have yet to see more results to make my mind on it since you are spliting the chin in half, you'll have to take into consideration the muscles.

 

[ThatInfamousDude]

I still have yet to see more results to make my mind on it since you are spliting the chin in half, you'll have to take into consideration the muscles.

I mean shouldn’t be a problem right? Like how does differ for implants. That also stretches the muscle and soft tissue. Only this is your own bone.

From what I have read, bone grows between the space, so it shouldn’t be a problem at all

 

[Lefor3Laser]

I mean shouldn’t be a problem right? Like how does differ for implants. That also stretches the muscle and soft tissue. Only this is your own bone.

From what I have read, bone grows between the space, so it shouldn’t be a problem at all

If you consider reattaching the muscles again, it will be much harder, implants are kinda easier in comparation to a split genio.

 

[ThatInfamousDude]

If you consider reattaching the muscles again, it will be much harder, implants are kinda easier in comparation to a split genio.

Hmmm will read more into this, thanks again for the response.

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

I still have yet to see more results to make my mind on it since you are spliting the chin in half, you'll have to take into consideration the muscles.

I remembered it looking comically square like Sponge's Bob Chad Squid meme in post op

Didn't know how it goes after swelling but for sure you'll get that deep fossea look

 

[Lefor3Laser]

I remembered it looking comically square like Sponge's Bob Chad Squid meme in post op

Didn't know how it goes after swelling but for sure you'll get that deep fossea look

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Yeah that's what was my conclusion when i thought about it, that's why i need to see 3 or 4 results to take my conclusion.

 

[ThatInfamousDude]

Yeah that's what was my conclusion when i thought about it, that's why i need to see 3 or 4 results to take my conclusion.

Isn’t swelling like ass? Even the first year. Like 10% of swelling still remains 1 year post op (read somewhere in a study). No way anything pre 6 months post-op is indicative of the final results.

Post op most people look like a balloon

 

[sham66]

Make sure you work with an Ortho before, I need a revision now. (I went to Pags)

wait can i dm u about ur surgery with pagnoni?

 

[HardmaxxUser]

I remembered it looking comically square like Sponge's Bob Chad Squid meme in post op

Didn't know how it goes after swelling but for sure you'll get that deep fossea look

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no genioplasty will make a chin look uncanny. Its virtually impossible due to the limited amount of MM you can advance the chin. A 4mm split genioplasty gives me 4mm of extra chin width. Not much, but enough to make a small difference.

 

[HardmaxxUser]

I still have yet to see more results to make my mind on it since you are spliting the chin in half, you'll have to take into consideration the muscles.

think about breaking a bone in your leg, arm, or anywhere else. The muscles adapt.

 

[HardmaxxUser]

Would it cost less if you didn't do the split down the middle? Just normal genioplasty?

Yes, it would cost 27k euros. This is also with custom plates. Some surgeons, probably pag too, still offer non custom plates for a much cheaper price. I know with ramieri it was around 16k without custom guides.

 

[Radiantmetal]

wait can i dm u about ur surgery with pagnoni?

Yah

 

[Lefor3Laser]

think about breaking a bone in your leg, arm, or anywhere else. The muscles adapt.

For the chin it's much harder when you split it in 2, muscle missplacement would be more common i suppose.

 

[Muhammed_77]

Anyone aware of Pagnoni prices? Specifically bimax (+ widening), genio and infra’s. DM would be appreciated!

mario pagnoni right?

 

[ThatInfamousDude]

mario pagnoni right?

Who else lol

 

[ThatInfamousDude]

For the chin it's much harder when you split it in 2, muscle missplacement would be more common i suppose.

Genuinely asking tho, do you even need chin muscles?

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Genuinely asking tho, do you even need chin muscles?

Yes, it is pretty important for functional side.

 

[ThatInfamousDude]

Yes, it is pretty important for functional side.

Like what though? What genuine function does it serve. Too lazy to look it up but I can’t imagine missing your chin muscles lol.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Like what though? What genuine function does it serve. Too lazy to look it up but I can’t imagine missing your chin muscles lol.

Hopefully this explain it well.

 

[ThatInfamousDude]

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Hopefully this explain it well.

You mean the skin below the chin will sag? Just artifically tighten or remove fat. I genuinely don’t comprehend how chin muscles can be important. Or maybe I am just stupid.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Damn these are brutal price rises, was 28k for Trimax and infras last year now it’s 28k just a bimax?

 

[ThatInfamousDude]

Damn these are brutal price rises, was 28k for Trimax and infras last year now it’s 28k just a bimax?

Really? Was it that much lower last year? Guess that’s just supply and demand lol. When you are the “best” you can charge whatever you want lol. Esp if ppl keep coming

 

[zemult]

Damn these are brutal price rises, was 28k for Trimax and infras last year now it’s 28k just a bimax?

I got quoted 25 for jaw angle and infra

 

[Foreverbrad]

Really? Was it that much lower last year? Guess that’s just supply and demand lol. When you are the “best” you can charge whatever you want lol. Esp if ppl keep coming

It’s really bad though when what you are quoted when you start ortho and what you actually pay in the end are so vastly different. I may have to switch surgeons as he is rising prices faster than I can make money at this point and by the time my braces are done it could be 50k for just trimax.

 

[ThatInfamousDude]

It’s really bad though when what you are quoted when you start ortho and what you actually pay in the end are so vastly different. I may have to switch surgeons as he is rising prices faster than I can make money at this point and by the time my braces are done it could be 50k for just trimax.

That’s not how it works right? I am fairly sure quoted price = actual price when you lock it in. That’s how contracts work.

Also, I think the increase was due to rampant inflation the last 5 years. Now it has stabilized. Rather than increasing 2% every year he prob increases significantly every couple years.

Idk tho

 

[Foreverbrad]

That’s not how it works right? I am fairly sure quoted price = actual price when you lock it in. That’s how contracts work.

Also, I think the increase was due to rampant inflation the last 5 years. Now it has stabilized. Rather than increasing 2% every year he prob increases significantly every couple years.

Idk tho

I didn’t pay anything at the time so there’s no contract at all. He just told me to go get orthodontic decompensation and that at the end of that I would make the payment before the in-depth surgical planning. I would be incredibly surprised if he honors the original quoted price.

I don’t think it’s inflation based so much as just extreme popularity, both as an individual surgeon and an exponential increase of looksmaxing in general.

 

[ThatInfamousDude]

I didn’t pay anything at the time so there’s no contract at all. He just told me to go get orthodontic decompensation and that at the end of that I would make the payment before the in-depth surgical planning. I would be incredibly surprised if he honors the original quoted price.

I don’t think it’s inflation based so much as just extreme popularity, both as an individual surgeon and an exponential increase of looksmaxing in general.

Why would he not honor the quoted price lol. That is literally how quotes work. Maybe I am confused, but in any other industry quoted price = actual price + any unexpected costs. Not a 8k upcharge lmao. Maybe he gave you a good deal, just don’t parade with it.