@pakicel is NOT a delusional troll

Presents chad vs twink pretty boy
But the point stands that being pale is bad for sex appeal. It's an incel trait ffs.

Tanning is always a looksmax. Period.
 
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But the point stands that being pale is bad for sex appeal. It's an incel trait ffs.

Tanning is always a looksmax. Period.
Tanning not neccesarily. As you said some phenos or blabla bla dont fit being pale. Same goes with pale people. They should not tan max cause it will look weird. Id even say stick to the color of your skin even if its brutal
 
Dating apps are not the best avenue for you to meet women. You need to talk to women IRL and build a connection.
atleast I get a few likes and matches on dating apps. IRL i don't get any attention at all. Nada. Even @FailedNormieManlet has gotten IOIs irl from what I've seen. Plus, I don't wanna eventually get friendzoned by "building a connection"
 
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Tanning not neccesarily. As you said some phenos or blabla bla dont fit being pale. Same goes with pale people. They should not tan max cause it will look weird. Id even say stick to the color of your skin even if its brutal
Depends on your starting point. I am confident I would look better with this colouring:

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atleast I get a few likes and matches on dating apps. IRL i don't get any attention at all. Nada. Even @FailedNormieManlet has gotten IOIs irl from what I've seen. Plus, I don't wanna eventually get friendzoned by "building a connection"
bullshit. Just fucking gymmaxx and wear lifts you faggot
 
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too pale get a tan
Tbh yeah but the sun is hitting hard in sweden alrdy a bit tanned but im super fucking scared of cancer and all the autism that comes with tanning. Getting big muscles is auto nt (u wrote ab it before
 
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Tbh yeah but the sun is hitting hard in sweden alrdy a bit tanned but im super fucking scared of cancer and all the autism that comes with tanning. Getting big muscles is auto nt (u wrote ab it before
beta carotene tan nigga, you just supplement beta carotene or eat lots of carrots. You will get a healthy tan
 
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bullshit. Just fucking gymmaxx and wear lifts you faggot
answer the question though, hve u or hve u not gotten IOIs IRL?

also, how would u rate this latina? we just traded snaps cause she's a 100 miles away:feelswah::feelswah::feelsohh::feelsohh::feelsohh:
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answer the question though, hve u or hve u not gotten IOIs IRL?

also, how would u rate this latina? we just traded snaps cause she's a 100 miles away:feelswah::feelswah::feelsohh::feelsohh::feelsohh:
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Yes I've gotten IOIs irl before. When I curled my hair and wear docs, I get IOIs everytime I go outside.

Stop trading snaps and talking to girls 100 miles away, you aren't even going to meet them. Why do you keep giving women attention? You're literally being played
 
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Tbh yeah but the sun is hitting hard in sweden alrdy a bit tanned but im super fucking scared of cancer and all the autism that comes with tanning. Getting big muscles is auto nt (u wrote ab it before
Yeah. You need a tan and maybe coloured contacts.
 
too pale get a tan
He somehow looks a lot healthier than me. IDK why.

I guess that is because he is a white man and he is supposed to have colouring like that naturally.

My skin ended up this way because I rot inside too much.
 
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Yes I've gotten IOIs irl before. When I curled my hair and wear docs, I get IOIs everytime I go outside.
yeah see, there u go. I'm never getting that. Atleast on OLD I have a chance, however slight

Stop trading snaps and talking to girls 100 miles away, you aren't even going to meet them. Why do you keep giving women attention? You're literally being played
All the girls in my college town are BWC only though:feelsree::feelsree::feelsree::feelswhy::feelswhy::feelswhy:
 
He somehow looks a lot healthier than me. IDK why.

I guess that is because he is a white man and he is supposed to have colouring like that naturally.

My skin ended up this way because I rot inside too much.
Im brazillian x Italian. Im supposed to be a bit browner. But theres no sun in sweden :feelsohh:
 
He somehow looks a lot healthier than me. IDK why.

I guess that is because he is a white man and he is supposed to have colouring like that naturally.

My skin ended up this way because I rot inside too much.
Yeah bro south asians when pale looking fucking unhealthy, it's not even natural for us to be that pale
yeah see, there u go. I'm never getting that. Atleast on OLD I have a chance, however slight


All the girls in my college town are BWC only though:feelsree::feelsree::feelsree::feelswhy::feelswhy::feelswhy:
you're autistic and delusional, have you taken any actual steps to improve looks?
 
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JFL if you think this colouring even looks healthy. I have cousins who are even more pale than this, they literally are more pale than regular whites. It's so fucking gross to look at, they look unhealthy

yep seen a lot of indians look like that they just stand out and something is not right.
 
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yep seen a lot of indians look like that they just stand out and something is not right.
It's why I find indians on this site delusional tbh. I have cousins who look more pale than that, and they're confused why women don't like them as much as darker skinned guys - we all live in the west.
 
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yeah, i'd say I'm softmaxxed for the most part. I grew out my hair, got contacts, and my skin used to be much worse before I started skincare. Just started tret too. Still no IOIs
Not enough, that's fucking bare minimum. You need to lift and get good physique, take interesting pics, try to statusmaxx, etc. You've done normie tier shit
 
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It's why I find indians on this site delusional tbh. I have cousins who look more pale than that, and they're confused why women don't like them as much as darker skinned guys - we all live in the west.


lol failnormiemanlet you defiantly know the answer to this but ill say it for the sake of commenting.

yeah there will always be a preference for lighter skin however its not in the form of pasty pale but rather pheno type matching with coloring. also yes the pasty pale indian skin tone is horrendous and sickly looking. and just like u said for people of Indian descent olive is ideal.

Blacks possibly with red understone.

pale can work but u need crystal clear skin and vibrant glowing and the pheno to match.

my 2 cents
 
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It's why I find indians on this site delusional tbh. I have cousins who look more pale than that, and they're confused why women don't like them as much as darker skinned guys - we all live in the west.
Yeah. I thought the same too for a while. A lot of indians here are gonna learn the hard way and rope when they realize they made themselves look worse after their autistic skin bleaching routine :ROFLMAO:
 
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no gym for ur face :feelswah::feelswah::feelsohh::feelsohh::feelsohh::feelswah::feelswah::hnghn::hnghn:

first u said to get off OLD now u say take interesting pics, which is it? How is that supposed to get me IOIs irl?

Statusmaxxing isn't real attraction though, just pseudo betabuxxing
"no gym for your face"

Just rope tbh, this is what I mean. You aren't going to make it, if you're being a faggot and not doing every looksmax

Yes OLD shouldn't be your main source, but if you want to do well on it, you need interesting pics.

"MUH STATUSMAXXING NOT REAL" JFL rope bro, you literally don't want to improve.
 
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no gym for ur face :feelswah::feelswah::feelsohh::feelsohh::feelsohh::feelswah::feelswah::hnghn::hnghn:

first u said to get off OLD now u say take interesting pics, which is it? How is that supposed to get me IOIs irl?

Statusmaxxing isn't real attraction though, just pseudo betabuxxing
No. Statusmaxxing is not like betabuxxing. Women are genuinely attracted to powerful men. Do you think Elon Musk was betabuxxing his stacy wives? She didn't need the money or anything. She was with him because he is powerful and charismatic. A dude like Elon Musk could very easily find thousands of stacy tier women willing to sleep with him while a chad might struggle to get anything better than a HTB.
 
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lol failnormiemanlet you defiantly know the answer to this but ill say it for the sake of commenting.

yeah there will always be a preference for lighter skin however its not in the form of pasty pale but rather pheno type matching with coloring. also yes the pasty pale indian skin tone is horrendous and sickly looking. and just like u said for people of Indian descent olive is ideal.

Blacks possibly with red understone.

pale can work but u need crystal clear skin and vibrant glowing and the pheno to match.

my 2 cents
agreed white skin is ideal for whites, it looks natural. Olive is ideal for indians yes, pasty pale is so gross. Whites have a glow to their white skin, indians don't glow. They look dull
Yeah. I thought the same too for a while. A lot of indians here are gonna learn the hard way and rope when they realize they made themselves look worse after their autistic skin bleaching routine :ROFLMAO:
100%, they're going to age so badly too as a result jfl
 
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No. Statusmaxxing is not like betabuxxing. Women are genuinely attracted to powerful men. Do you think Elon Musk was betabuxxing his stacy wives? She didn't need the money or anything. She was with him because he is powerful and charismatic. A dude like Elon Musk could very easily find thousands of stacy tier women willing to sleep with him while a chad might struggle to get anything better than a HTB.
JBW, and Musk jawmogs me to oblivion :feelswah::feelswah::feelswah::feelsohh::feelsohh::feelsohh:, plus he looks great for his age

On the contrary, look at Bezos. Gymmaxxed, statusmaxxed, but still got cucked by fatcel DiCaprio
 
"no gym for your face"

Just rope tbh, this is what I mean. You aren't going to make it, if you're being a faggot and not doing every looksmax
Regardless, pretty sure we have a similar physique currently

Yet u still get IOIs irl whereas I get none
 
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Regardless, pretty sure we have a similar physique currently

Yet u still get IOIs irl whereas I get none
I'm a fashionmaxxed pajeet jfl, even then I'm still fucking looksmaxxing like craz and trying to improve. You're lazy and want shit to come to you
 
I'm a fashionmaxxed pajeet jfl, even then I'm still fucking looksmaxxing like craz and trying to improve. You're lazy and want shit to come to you
I'd say I'm relatively "fashionmaxxed" too. U just haven't seen photos of my fits cause I don't go out often. But I do dress well. Still no IOIs though
 
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I'd say I'm relatively "fashionmaxxed" too. U just haven't seen photos of my fits cause I don't go out often. But I do dress well. Still no IOIs though
When you mean IOIs/going out, wdym? You've never ever been to a bar nigga. In bars you just gotta approach really.

On the streets women will smile at me, some check me out, etc.
 
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JBW, and Musk jawmogs me to oblivion :feelswah::feelswah::feelswah::feelsohh::feelsohh::feelsohh:, plus he looks great for his age

On the contrary, look at Bezos. Gymmaxxed, statusmaxxed, but still got cucked by fatcel DiCaprio
Even chads get cucked. It has nothing to do with looks.

Honestly, if you were bluepilled af, you'd probably have a normal dating life. You are listening to fucking dravidians here who are obsessed with 'muh light skin' and deciding to bleachmax when you don't even know if it will make you more attractive to women JFL.

I can give you tons of examples of dudes with your exact same pheno dating attractive women. You have probably seen these couples yourself.
 
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this is what I mean

I've never gotten this. Not once lol. They aren't repulsed by me or anything like that, but I'm just treated like i'm invisible for the most part
It's weird because I think you mog @FailedNormieManlet. You have similar phenos and aren't that much shorter than him.

He has a more NT and approachable face I guess.
 
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It's weird because I think you mog @FailedNormieManlet. You have similar phenos and aren't that much shorter than him.

He has a more NT and approachable face I guess.
well there u go, I can't change how NT and approachable my face looks
 
Even chads get cucked. It has nothing to do with looks.

Honestly, if you were bluepilled af, you'd probably have a normal dating life. You are listening to fucking dravidians here who are obsessed with 'muh light skin' and deciding to bleachmax when you don't even know if it will make you more attractive to women JFL.

I can give you tons of examples of dudes with your exact same pheno dating attractive women. You have probably seen these couples yourself.
I've only seen examples of dudes with my pheno do well online, like on tiktok, never IRL. And even then, they're usually tall and facemog me by atleast 0.5 PSL
 
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well there u go, I can't change how NT and approachable my face looks
You have better bone structure and eye area. You'd probably get rated higher PSL here but I think he just has a very friendly and approachable face.

Sort of proves PSL is somewhat of a cope.
 
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I've only seen examples of dudes with my pheno do well online, like on tiktok, never IRL. And even then, they're usually tall and facemog me by atleast 0.5 PSL
You look like your avi you know.
 
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@Pakicel is not a troll, he has high IQ takes which deviate from sterotypes. British men in their 20s mog the fuck out of american men, @forevergymcelling can tell you this is the case. It is true more medium colours like olive skin tone is the most attractive colouring for pajeets too, idk why niggas on this forum think pale white colours like good on pajeets - it doesn't, it just makes them look sickly. Why tf would you want the same colouring as tofu JFL.

I have seen @Pakicel before, he is actually good looking though. He is a bit delusional in the way he rates himself, but most of his takes aren't even bad. This forum is just crazy.
People hate @Pakicel because he rates hard. But there’s a lot of women out there who also rate real hard and @Pakicel is rating like them.

Only thing I don’t like is when he takes points off for pheno. Pheno doesn’t matter, skin quality and collagen matter a lot more. Dravidian with solid collagen will always mog a olive skinned green eyed white guy with average collagen (assuming psl is similar)
 
You have better bone structure and eye area. You'd probably get rated higher PSL here but I think he just has a very friendly and approachable face.

Sort of proves PSL is somewhat of a cope.
I've been rated around a 4.5 PSL by most here

Sort of proves PSL is somewhat of a cope
guess so

You look like your avi you know.
bhai I wish lol. Sendhil bhai mogs me to oblivion. He has a much better nose and jaw, plus I'm nowhere near as lightskinned as he looks in my avi
 
Only thing I don’t like is when he takes points off for pheno. Pheno doesn’t matter, skin quality and collagen matter a lot more. Dravidian with solid collagen will always mog a olive skinned green eyed white guy with average collagen (assuming psl is similar)
Nah. Indians have very low SMV, especially dark-skinned ones. But that doesn't mean you should fucking bleach your skin until you look like a fucking albino abomination. There is something known as harmony. A dravidian with pale skin would look weird af because it looks unnatural.

People take the phenopill to an extreme. Dudes like @rand anon think it is over for them just because they are dark and think no women will be attracted to them when I have seen far too many guys with his pheno who are popular with women. It has partially to do with location though as in some places indians are seen as exotic while in others they are seen as repulsive.
 
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I've been rated around a 4.5 PSL by most here


guess so


bhai I wish lol. Sendhil bhai mogs me to oblivion. He has a much better nose and jaw, plus I'm nowhere near as lightskinned as he looks in my avi
You still have the same pheno and he still looks dark bro. He actually looks worse here because his skin looks unnaturally bleached.
 
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Nah. Indians have very low SMV, especially dark-skinned ones. But that doesn't mean you should fucking bleach your skin until you look like a fucking albino abomination. There is something known as harmony. A dravidian with pale skin would look weird af because it looks unnatural.

People take the phenopill to an extreme. Dudes like @rand anon think it is over for them just because they are dark and think no women will be attracted to them when I have seen far too many guys with his pheno who are popular with women. It has partially to do with location though as in some places indians are seen as exotic while in others they are seen as repulsive.
True. I don’t take points of for pheno mainly cause of the environment I’m in. At my t20 school Indians are seen as smart and charismatic so we don’t get viewed poorly due to pheno.

In your Environment Indians are prob viewed as rapey nerds tanking their smv.
 
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Yes I've gotten IOIs irl before. When I curled my hair and wear docs, I get IOIs everytime I go outside.

Stop trading snaps and talking to girls 100 miles away, you aren't even going to meet them. Why do you keep giving women attention? You're literally being played
I give my snaps to girls… we may actually meet

I don’t know how far 100 miles is but she lives in another city to me I’ll go visit her or if she lives in my city for uni (her unis in my city) then I’ll meet her here. She’s white though so she may 90% flake on me as like :feelsrope::feelswhy: we beggars cannot be choosers. But as you know I’m incel unless I fuck women from other cities it is what it is
 
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People take the phenopill to an extreme. Dudes like @
rand anon
@rand anon think it is over for them just because they are dark and think no women will be attracted to them when I have seen far too many guys with his pheno who are popular with women
I'm dark AND a manlet :feelswhy::feelswhy: it's over :feelswhy::feelswhy::feelswhy:
Those guys are good looking and tall:feelsree::feelsree::feelsree:
 
I'm a manlet shitskinned pajeet, she's realistically the best I can pull, even though I mog her:feelswhy::feelswhy::hnghn::hnghn:
It’s what it is read my comment above yours I’m also fucked. Sure I pull much better looking women but I have to travel to other cities as I am Truecel in my city due to women here not liking me
 
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